Hi there Phil.
The only person I can't stand more than Wilbon is Tony Kornheiser. I rarely if ever read their columns anymore. However, I'll check out todays column per your advice.
In the meantime, let me know what youa re thinking......
there must be something to this I don't see yet.
Best,
Nolan
The only person I can't stand more than Wilbon is Tony Kornheiser. I rarely if ever read their columns anymore. However, I'll check out todays column per your advice.
In the meantime, let me know what youa re thinking......
there must be something to this I don't see yet.
Best,
Nolan
I dont want to paraphrase or summarize too much, but I think basically what he was saying was that:
* Tyson is a thug pure and simple. No one argues that.
* The DC economy needs a shot in the arm, however small or brief.
This is a small quote:
"This isn't a referendum on Tyson; he's been a disgrace often. Most people agree on that, or at the very least acknowledge his presence anywhere raises legitimate issues, but we'll return to Tyson later.
This is about Washington's ability to stage an international event that will generate between $6 million and $10 million to the town's economy. It's about putting people to work who in many cases haven't worked since last September. It's about showcasing the District as a place good for something other than being home to congressional hot air and an embarrassing murder rate. It's about stimulating the local economy by attracting other major events that could put people to work for longer than two weeks.
"
He also talked briefly about how the Balt/Wash area needs to "prove" that it can host large stage sporting events to support their bid for the Olypmics. I dont think I fully understand his argument, but I can (sort of) see his point.
I think it was a combination of a few arguments that I heard here and not a totally horrible piece, which is what I usually think of him.
* Tyson is a thug pure and simple. No one argues that.
* The DC economy needs a shot in the arm, however small or brief.
This is a small quote:
"This isn't a referendum on Tyson; he's been a disgrace often. Most people agree on that, or at the very least acknowledge his presence anywhere raises legitimate issues, but we'll return to Tyson later.
This is about Washington's ability to stage an international event that will generate between $6 million and $10 million to the town's economy. It's about putting people to work who in many cases haven't worked since last September. It's about showcasing the District as a place good for something other than being home to congressional hot air and an embarrassing murder rate. It's about stimulating the local economy by attracting other major events that could put people to work for longer than two weeks.
"
He also talked briefly about how the Balt/Wash area needs to "prove" that it can host large stage sporting events to support their bid for the Olypmics. I dont think I fully understand his argument, but I can (sort of) see his point.
I think it was a combination of a few arguments that I heard here and not a totally horrible piece, which is what I usually think of him.
Phil:
I just finished reading the Wilbon column.
I'm not impressed or moved by it.
Recall from our previous exchange that I was against the Tyson fight in WDC on the grounds that everyone bashes Vegas all the time, and now here comes the Nation's Capital selling it's soul for a buck. I was against THAT hypocracy -- not so much that Tyson was going to stage a fight here.
That said, I view the DC Olympic bid as a hysterical joke. Do you think for a minute this crime-ridden city is capable of hosting the Olympic games? They can't even lure a baseball team for Crissakes! When I first heard Houston was one of the candidates to host the Olympics, I could barely stop laughing. But DC really puts tears in my eyes.
DC, the Olympics? Stop it, you're killing me!!!
-- Nolan Dalla
I just finished reading the Wilbon column.
I'm not impressed or moved by it.
Recall from our previous exchange that I was against the Tyson fight in WDC on the grounds that everyone bashes Vegas all the time, and now here comes the Nation's Capital selling it's soul for a buck. I was against THAT hypocracy -- not so much that Tyson was going to stage a fight here.
That said, I view the DC Olympic bid as a hysterical joke. Do you think for a minute this crime-ridden city is capable of hosting the Olympic games? They can't even lure a baseball team for Crissakes! When I first heard Houston was one of the candidates to host the Olympics, I could barely stop laughing. But DC really puts tears in my eyes.
DC, the Olympics? Stop it, you're killing me!!!
-- Nolan Dalla
yyz said:
Don't get me wrong, YYZ. I'm a Libertarian in the strictest sense. I believe that gambling, drinking, prosititution, et al should be legal in all 50 states, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. That's not a joke....it's a belief system that presuposes people should be able to make their own moral and ethical decisions and take responsibility for their own actions. Not the government. The individual. It's a belief I will fight for, and yes that includes getting militant if necessary. Regarding the city of Washington "selling its soul" -- my objection is based on the fact this city want to be *one thing* to one set of people (a wholesome family oriented city with the monuments and all), but when that doesn't bring in enough money, then by God bring in the Tyson fight!. I despise those and no regard for those who would change their moral principles based strictly on monetary influences. If someone is philosophically leaning one way or another, pro or con on the Tyson fight, that's fine. But I won't stand by idly while one city (Las Vegas) makes what I thought was a VERY courageous a moral stand costing them $100 million, while a supposedly more upstanding community like Washington decides to come in and spread its legs open like a cheap Saturday night whore when the Tyson pimps walk by flashing wads of cash.
-- Nolan Dalla
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I hope what happens is given that the LV DA is no longer going after Tyson, apparently now he is free to immediately re-apply for his license there and does not need to wait a year.
My gut tells me that both fighters know the draw and purses will be 20 times as high in Las Vegas as in DC. Who in their right mind would consider DC the party destination of LV? Not me.
I'm really only bitter because I will be in Vegas the first weekend in April when the fight was supposed to be there. My host out there is a good friend and I had hoped we could have gone to the fight.
I agree with a lot of what you say Nolan. You sound like a lot of the folks' attitude that I miss about being back home in NH. Can you argue with a state whose motto is "Live Free or Die?"
My gut tells me that both fighters know the draw and purses will be 20 times as high in Las Vegas as in DC. Who in their right mind would consider DC the party destination of LV? Not me.
I'm really only bitter because I will be in Vegas the first weekend in April when the fight was supposed to be there. My host out there is a good friend and I had hoped we could have gone to the fight.
I agree with a lot of what you say Nolan. You sound like a lot of the folks' attitude that I miss about being back home in NH. Can you argue with a state whose motto is "Live Free or Die?"
