NRL picks, Round One

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As mentioned previously, I plan to provide NRL and Super 12 previews and picks this year for anyone interested.
Week one of the NRL kicks off on Saturday (Aus time) and there are 7 matches over the weekend, so let's have an initial look.

Note: I won't have as much time at the PC/Internet as I had hoped tomorrow and the next day due to family and work commitments, so I will post initial plays here and aim to update as soon as I can get back to my station. That may mean, depending on travel times and work, I don't get to update Saturday nite (Aus time) matches like I had hoped. So be wary.
All odds are taken from Centrebet; there are other books that should take NRL action including DAS, Canbet, Olympic, Sportingbet, William Hill and the NZ TAB.

Saturday games (Aus time):

Game 1) Penrith Panthers v Parramatta Eels, Stadium Australia, 17:00 CST.
Panthers +5.5 ($1.95 Aus); Eels -5.5 ($1.85).

Parramatta, while one of the youngest teams in the NRL, are also among the brightest, led by an astute tactician in coach Brian Smith. Smith has got ex-Norths halfback Jason Taylor to take over playmaking duties from the likes of the departed Jim Dymock and Jason Smith and should be a reliable goalkicker too. David Solomona, acquired from Sydney Roosters, is an exciting ball-playing forward.
The Panthers have kept virtually the same squad that made the playoffs last season, with plenty of experience in skipper Steve Carter and John Cross and the undoubted ability of Ryan Girdler and Craig Gower.

Penrith would be very hard to beat at home but this match will be played at the neutral venue at Homebush Bay. Girdler has missed training this week with a groin injury and will undergo a late fitness test before the match - staff are optimistic he will start at centre and kick the goals.
My original line was Eels -6. Girdler's fitness sways me towards them by a converted try, but the green-ness of the side is often exposed at crucial times, making them hard to back with certainty,
INITIAL DECISION: NO PLAY.

Game 2)North Queensland Cowboys v Brisbane Broncos, Dairy Farmers Stadium, Townsville, 20:00 CST.
Cowboys +12.5 ($1.90); Broncos -12.5 ($1.90).

Last season's champions (Broncos) v hot favourites to finish with the wooden spoon again (Cowboys). Should be a laugher, and may well be. But we have to take into account the inter-Queensland rivalry, which will lift the Cowboys at home in their first outing of the season. The Broncos have lost Kevin and Kerrod Walters, Brad Thorn, Tonie Carroll, Kevin Campion and Ben Walker; all notable first-teamers from last year. A key gain at playmaker is the gifted Scott Prince, who has left the Cowboys.
The Cowboys have virtually no names of note, and if this match was mid-season I'd be on the Broncos. But the Cowboys will be eager to prove all critics wrong first-up and show Prince they won't miss him, At this line, we are short of value I believe.
INITIAL DECISION: NO PLAY.

Game 3) Wests Tigers v Sydney Roosters, Stadium Australia, 19:00 CST.
Tigers +7.5 ($1.95); Roosters -7.5 ($1.85).

Beaten in the grand final last year, the Roosters are extra-keen to go one better in 2001. They have lost mercurial halfback Adrian Lam, classy fullback Richie Barnett and the afore-mentioned Solomona. But they picked up tradesmanlike No7 Paul Green from the Cowboys and England's Adrian Morley to boost the pack.
Wests battled away valiantly last year and have gained journeyman John Simon at halfback/standoff but lost hardman Jarrod McCracken through injury to retirement.
With the brilliant Brad Fittler and ball-playing backrower Bryan Fletcher making plays for the Roosters, Lam's absence won't be noticed much. The Roosters have pace and strength and will be out to make an early statement in the second match of the opening night double-header. There is already talk that the temperamental Tigers players, led by inconsistent playmaker Craig Field, are struggling to cope with the strict methods of coach Terry Lamb. As my original line was -10, I think we have value with the Roosters.
INITIAL DECISION: PLAY SYDNEY ROSTERS -7.5.

Sunday games:

Game 4) Melbourne Storm v The Bulldogs, Colonial Stadium, Melbourne, 12.30 CST.
Storm -8.5 ($1.90), Bulldogs +8.5 ($1.90).

1999 premiers Melbourne fell short of repeating that feat last season. They are based around a big, tough forward pack but will be watched closely early season to see how they cope without lynchpin halfback Brett Kimorley, who has joined Northern Eagles. Canterbury may lose a number of points a match through the retirement of winger Darryl Halligan, the game's greatest ever goalkicker. But they have worked hard to recruit to fill a void of pacy backs and got classy finisher Nigel Vagana from the Warriors, Brett Howland from the Sharks and Luke Patton from St George.
Even though Steve Reardon will miss the opening games with a broken wrist, the Bulldogs are never easy to dominate up front. They are underdogs based on the absence of former greats Ricky Stuart and Bradley Clyde, along with Halligan, but I believe they can hang close with the Storm as they adjust to life with Matt Orford at the helm.
INITIAL DECISION: PLAY BULLDOGS +8.5

I'm going to stop here. It's been a long day and I feel I would short change any readers if I continued with a briefer version. I will post the remaining three Sunday matches over the next two days - guaranteed they will be posted in time for you to play if you feel that way inclined. At this stage, I don't have a play in any of those three games, but that could change closer to game time so do keep an eye out.

This is obviously somewhat of a trial for both me and Madjacks. Thanks Jack for the opportunity. I will do my very best to provide all forum members to the best of my ability. I have bet haphazardly before on rugby league. Now, with improved money management and a vast array of handicapping advice - mostly through this board and the guru Nolan Dalla - I'm hopeful we can all have a long, enjoyable, and most importantly profitable season.

Let's make a 2001 NRL season target of 56%.

GLTA

Anders

PS - Nolan, how on earth do you manage this every day
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[This message has been edited by Anders (edited 02-15-2001).]
 

Anders

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Back from a day or 2 away and see I've been inundated with responses
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But I know there's one or two lurkers - and I mean one or two literally
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- so for their benefit; here's a little bit more info.

Ryan Girdler has been cleared to start for Penrith against Parramatta; simply confirming my decision on a NO PLAY. Match starting about now, should be a great contest.

Second rower Luke O'Donnell has been ruled out for the Tigers against the Roosters with a shoulder injury and has been replaced by Mark O'Neill. The Roosters winning by two unconverted tries or a try and two penalties is a solid play. Good Luck.

Been thinking and working on the three remaining Sunday matches and will post previews and picks by noon Sun NZ time, approx 9/10am Sun Aus time (depending where you live) and 6pm Sat EST in the US.

Off home to watch.
 

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Well, we opened with a winner
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Roosters, as predicted, were far too good for the Tigers, winning 30-16. Will recap all matches and picks tomorrow.

Onto the last three games on the card:

Game 5) New Zealand Warriors v Canberra Raiders, Ericsson Stadium, Auckland, 12.30 CST (Aus time).
Warriors +2.5 ($1.80); Raiders -2.5 ($1.95)

Being NZ's only NRL team, I'v watched the Warriors closely since their inception. And they have been a massive disappointment; always promising much but never delivering. I have made money on them however; backing them occasionally when rank outsiders, but more often going against them when favoured at home.
Today, they are home dogs, and although it scares me a lot, I'm going to back them. Here's why.
This season holds no expectations for the Warriors. They have had a player and coach clean out and are short on big-match talent and with a rookie NRL coach.
But today's home game will be huge for them. And they have the rare advantage compared to most NRL sides in round one that they escaped virtually injury-free in the pre-season. They do not have a deep squad and will struggle greatly as the season progresses and key players inevitable pick up knocks - but that's not the case today.
Canberra, on the other hand, do have injury problems with playmaker Mark McLinden out with a ligament strain while Michael Hodgson and Alan Tongue are also out and powerful forward Luke Davico is a game-time decision.
The Raiders also lack depth and the big names of the past. And they were unimpressive pre-season; just pipping the Tigers 22-18 on Feb 4 (and we saw last nite how average the Tigers are v the Roosters) and then beat Queensland state team Ipswich 36-20 last weekend after trailing 4-12 in the first spell.
I thought very long and hard about this wager - the Warriors are an awful team to have your money on for the best part of an NRL season. But we have valid reasons here why they may get up or at least cover the spread in a squeaker. So ...
INITIAL DECISION: PLAY NZ WARRIORS +2.5

Game 6) The Sharks v St George-Illawarra Dragons, Toyota Park, Cronulla, 14.30 CST (Aus time).
Sharks -2.5 ($1.90 Aus); Dragons +2.5 ($1.90).

Most pundits have the Dragons upsetting the home team here - I'm not as convinced. Certainly Cronulla Sharks will miss the scintillating wing play and particularly goalkicking of the injured Mat Rogers amd possibly hard-nut forward Martin Lang, who is in doubt.
But the Dragons also have injury problems with influential rake Nathan Brown, Darren Treacy and Shaun Timmins all in doubt. Both teams failed to flatter last season - the Sharks need backline spark and will be without the guidance of the retired Andrew Ettingshausen while the Dragons flopped in 2000 after being runners-up in 99. St George were beaten 22-6 on Feb 4 in pre-season by a Bulldogs team no-one (but me) rates while the Sharks went down 24-16 to Penrith, who were destroyed last nite by the Eels.
INITIAL DECISION: NO PLAY.

Game 7) Newcastle Knights v Northern Eagles, Marathon Stadium, Newcastle, 16.30 CST (Aus time).
Knights -4.5 ($1.90 Aus); Eagles +4.5 ($1.90).

Tough one to call. The Knights are always hard to beat at home but face a new season without Matthew Johns to partner mercurial brother Andrew at the scrumhalf-standoff base while hard men Tony Butterfield and Peter Shiels are gone. Injury has hurt their backline too, with stars Matthew Gidley and Adam MacDougall out and Robbie O'Davis questionable.
The Eagles have Aussie halfback Brett Kimmorley in his NRL debut with the side after a high-profile move from the Storm. He's a sensational halfback but doesn't have a hugely talented backline to work with. Eagles' strength is their forward pack, with the likes of Steve menzies, Nik Kosef, Geoff Toovey and former Knight Adam Muir. They beat the Storm pre-season and I was tempted to back them here, but believe the Knights at home will be hard to tip over.
INITIAL DECISION: NO PLAY.

So there it is - three plays out of seven matches. Some weeks I may pick more; maybe one week just one match. It all depends on how accurate I think the lines are. My initial thoughts when I saw opening week lines were that they were fairly accurate; last night's results went well against that idea, and we were on the right side of one of those. Let's hope we can get at least one more today.

GLTA
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The Warriors were, unfortunately, no different from the Warriors of previous seasons
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Lost 24-8, turned the ball over far too often, made Canberra look very good.
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the Bulldogs upset the Storm 14-10
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Weekend tally: 2-1
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Will provide a complete recap tomorrow (NZ time). Hope some of you had success.
 

Anders

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Thanks AV; will check it out when they update with weekend results. Want to keep a detailed stats file this year, which includes how teams fared spread-wise, and also totals in case I attempt to play them too as the season progresses. I know a lot of websites have details of "covers" for US sports but don't know if there's that sort of information available on NRL, Super12 etc - any knowledge if there is in Aus?
Wrap will be posted in next few hours.
 

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A solid start to the NRL season as we go 2-1.

The Warriors was a bad pick and I apologise. To play them without seeing enough of the new side under new coach Daniel Anderson wasn't smart handicapping. A play against Canberra is no good when the team they play are very poor in key areas.

Game 1) Parramatta 40 Penrith 4: Girdler's presence didn't make one iota of difference to this match. The Eels were a different class and coach Brian Smith was understandably delighted about the power and pace his team displayed all night. Penrith were a rabble however; their defensive line was broken easily and repeatedly.

Game 2) Sydney Roosters 30 West Tigers 16: Our first winner of the season was rarely in doubt. The Roosters led 20-0 just before halftime and although they eased off the throttle, they were always comfortable winners. They look to have a good combination in the steady Green and the brilliant Fittler, while centre Ryan Cross and winger Anthony Minichello are undrer-rated and should be big stars this year. The Tigers were aggressive but outclassed.

Game 3) North Queensland 17 Brisbane 18: The Cowboys came very close to pulling off the shock of the season in the opening round. They led til late against a Broncos team which saw a number of players struck down late in the week with a mystery virus. Believe mant punters may have been burned by this result but we were suitably wary of the Cowboys.

Game 4) Melbourne 10 Bulldogs 14: The most pleasing result of the round. Took into account pre-season form, match-ups and the absence of Kimmorley from the Storm and the game played out exactly as I'd hoped. The two sides matched each other up front and the result could have gone either way, but the 8.5 pts the Bulldogs got was gold.

Game 5) New Zealand Warriors 8 Canberra 24: I can't believe NZ's biggest - but not its best
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- newspaper is talking positively re the Warriors' performance. Sure they looked competitive, but the same old errors were all too obvious. They gave away the ball in great attacking positions constantly and let in some soft tries against a Canberra side that should struggle v the likes of the Eeels and the Roosters. Won't play the Warriors again in the near future until they can convince me they're a different team. May look to go against, but I'm sure the bookies (who had a very rough opening weekend) will have also taken notice.

Game 6) Cronulla Sharks 6 St George-Illawarra 30: The wise guys were on the money here. The Sharks were flat and the Dragons were sharp, with Trent Barrett superb in dictating terms for the winners.

Game 7) Newcastle 10 Northern Eagles 12. The expectations that this would be a tight encounter were proved correct. Newcastle led 10-6 late in the game when Kimmorley set up Menzies for the winning try which Ben Walker converted.

Let's see how the bookmakers fared:

Game 1) Eels -5.5; covered by 30.5 pts.
Game 2) Roosters -7.5; covered by 6.5 pts
Game 3) Broncos -12.5; failed to cover by 11.5 pts
Game 4) Storm -8.5; failed to cover by 11.5 pts
Game 5) Raiders -2.5; covered by 13.5 pts
Game 6) Sharks -2.5; failed to cover by 26.5 pts
Game 7) Knights -4.5; failed to cover by 6.5 pts

Note: All 7 away (or "road" teams for our US friends) won - although it could be argued Parramatta and Sydney were playing at a neutral venue.

So the lines were off and by a big way. I've always felt the NRL was one of the toughest competition to predict results in. But rather than letting that discourage us, I feel it gives us greater reasons to continue to search for bad lines and see if we can beat the book.
Will be back later in the week.



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Originally posted by Anders:
Thanks AV; will check it out when they update with weekend results. Want to keep a detailed stats file this year, which includes how teams fared spread-wise, and also totals in case I attempt to play them too as the season progresses. I know a lot of websites have details of "covers" for US sports but don't know if there's that sort of information available on NRL, Super12 etc - any knowledge if there is in Aus?
Wrap will be posted in next few hours.

Nope, no info of that sort since I took mine down/stopped having the help with it.
 
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