OFFSHORE BOOKS VS LOCAL BOOKIES

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In my opinion Offshore bookies is a risky proposition. If they run into cash flow problems they will shut down their operation faster than Randy Moss's 40 time. Super scammer Jeff Allen ran Gold Sports, and Bowman International ran a scam with Cash Pomer.
There's nothing better than betting with a local bookie who is backed by some sort of illegal activity. They have the money and if you deal with the bigger ones they always pay. They can't afford to stiff customers because they'll lose their customers to other bookies. After a while it becomes like a mutual trust, and it is treated as a business transaction. In fact the bookies have become good friends of mine, rather than the sterotypical hatred between the player and the bookie.
 

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I've always woundered about Cash Pomer. He used to have a weekly radio show on TheFan 590 every sunday, but that stopped about 2 yrs ago. He did advertise Bowmans quite heavily.
Can you elaborate as to the type of scam he was running with them?
 

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I'm not exactly sure but Spanky2 knows exact details on the scam, if he reads this post he will elaborate on the scam. I know Bowman's fired No CASH POMER after Spanky complained.
 

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I think in a way what you said about locals having to worry about competish applies even more to offshores. There is so much offshore competition and easy money for offshore internet books these days that it would be foolish to risk that by stiffing customers, especially over just a few dimes.

Personally, i have gotten shafted by every local I have ever used in one way or another so I always bet offshore.
 

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Yeah a lot of mickey mouse locals who get into the business thinking they're going to make millions are shady. This one local JAVIER told us when we're up you have to bet everyday for the rest of the week, but when you were down he never mentioned about not betting. He also stiffed us twice by piling the money in a rubber band and saying here's your money and screaching the tires of his car, taking off before I could count it. All the other locals I deal with are excellent and have a proven track record. ******************** Another thing is that half these local bookies can't add and you always add up with EXTRA MONEY IN YOUR ACCOUNT!
 
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Idiot?........no....i would use the word....

pitiful!!

Bains, go down to the ole' james street feed company.....watch a little pro-line and dream on.......no friggin clue........

geesh!!!!

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Maybe so but he's right, my Local is so math challenged, that he dropped about 2-3 dimes to me last year on math errors. And I don't even make my big bets with him.
 
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not the point Yak....

this is the discussion:

<In my opinion Offshore bookies is a risky proposition.>
 
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In my opinion Offshore bookies is a risky proposition

sorry Yak...ubb boards....??
above is the question.
 

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Actually,

Cash Pomer had a radio show on the FAN590 up until last year, I am interested in hearing what happened with his alliance with Bowmans International.



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I see lots of people come on this site and they say they were ripped off by some site that is refusing to pay or too slow to pay. I am just pointing out that local known bookies can be trusted to pay if they've been in the business long enough. In addition you don't have to pay credit card fees or lose money converting currency. What YAK MERCHANT pointed out is just another side benefit that local bookies are more likely to make errors in the balance.
Investment Executive maybe you couldn't find local bookies in Ottawa for one reason or another but I happen to know 3 that will pay any amount with no delays and hassles. Another thing I was just trying to point out that local bookies are a viable option and you missed the point. This site is for handicapping purposes and it is turning into a royal rumble with comments like yours.
 

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In my opinion Offshore bookies is a risky proposition

Chit Sherlock? Apparently you haven't done business with some of the more reputable books in the industry. Out of nearly 15 different offshore books, I have trouble with ONE and only one. In the end, I did finally get paid with the help of a few here. Do ya not think doing business with some local bookie isn't risky? Get real! There are risks involved in ANY cash transaction that involves your hard earned money!!

If they run into cash flow problems they will shut down their operation faster than Randy Moss's 40 time.

Truly one of the dumber statements I've read in a REALLY long time. First off, give me some examples and make damn sure they are the books that advertise here or were recommended by a few of the regulars here. I hate to tell ya this, but LOTS of reputable offshores make a chitload of money! I seriously doubt WSEX, Aces, Wagerst, Camelot, Gameday, Pinnacle, VIP, etcc..etc....are gonna go bellyup b/c of a few runs by the public. 1 bad apple doesn't mean the entire industry is not on the up & up.


There's nothing better than betting with a local bookie who is backed by some sort of illegal activity


Still kind of scratchin' my head on this one. What do you actually mean by this? Have you ever heard of local bookies getting busted? There is MUCH more of a chance to lose your money with a local than with a reputable offshore. I GUARANTEE you this!

They can't afford to stiff customers because they'll lose their customers to other bookies.

Same with the Offshore Books....

After a while it becomes like a mutual trust, and it is treated as a business transaction

Yep, and I've had this type of relationship with nearly 15 different offshore books. I trust them MUCH more than I would Tony down at the local poolhall. You are dealing with very knowledgable people that provide numerous more betting options than your local book. Next time ya pay ole Tony a visist, why not inquire about a 20% sign up bonus for one of your buddies that wants to start an account? Does Tony keep detailed win/loss wagers for ya? Is Tony in the CC biz????
 

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You won't have to worry about getting your knee caps broken when betting offshore because they get your $$ upfront and there is no money owed.
 

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I never could get a local to give me 2nd half lines...ha ha

Without a doubt offshore is much better,

...although my old local did give me a bottle of scotch one Christmas.....



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I am just pointing out that local known bookies can be trusted to pay if they've been in the business long enough.

Yeah, tell that to my guy who had run a book in Oxford, MS for nearly 30 yrs! One Tuesday afternoon on collection day, I even noticed a uniformed Oxford police officer diggin' into his wallet. Fella was good as gold, and NOONE EVER had to worry about him settlin' a score.

Guess what?? Purvis no longer participates in the book makin' business. Wasn't the local police, State Troopers, FBI, DEA, or ATF agents that paid him a visit one Sunday afternoon. It was the agency that likes to keep roughly 35% of your paycheck! The infamous Internal Revenue Service came a knockin'. I became aware of the unfortunate incident when I called the pool hall one day. "Purvis around", I said. "Purvis who"? exclaimed the gentleman on the other end of the line. 3 months later, I somehow graduated from grad. school. I would always inquire about Purvis when I ran into people that did business with one of the more popular figures in Northern Miss. The only information that I could find would be either in the Oxford Eagle or the Daily Mississippian. Seems as though Purvis had owed some back taxes for nearly 20 damn years! Gov't tends to get a little pissed off when they don't get their fair share of your check. Through the years, Purvis had short-changed the Federal Gov't by only claiming his downtown pool hall as his only source of income. I will have to say that Purvis did look kind of out place in that big ole house he was living in, as well as the brand new cadillac he seemed to get every January. I gave serious thought to opening up my own pool hall once I graduated from school.

It's been 8 yrs. since I laid eyes upon my good friend, but I can almost guarantee ya Purvis aint making book anymore. The IRS took nearly everything the man had, and I'd say that he's probably continuing to work for the Internal Revenue Service. Strange thing about bookmaking is the fact that the better you become, the more attention you bring to yourself. While it's usually a good career move to work hard and bring home more money, it's quite the opposite when you're in the book biz. I'd say that the one common word to describe people such as Purvis, is simply GREED.....

In addition you don't have to pay credit card fees

Why not try and save up to meet that minimum balance requirement, which is usually around $300 dollars. This may be hard for you to believe, but the Book will usually reimburse you for any costs you incur when opening an account....

or lose money converting currency

They got computers in Pakistan??

Another thing I was just trying to point out that local bookies are a viable option and you missed the point.

I think quite a few are trying to figure out what's the point of this thread? Please help me fall asleep and tell us that you're only joshin'...

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Topic: OFFSHORE BOOKS VS LOCAL BOOKIES


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You all make sensible points, with Offshore being a safe option to betting, however some of my post was intended as a joke, but some of the post I feel is justified.

Once I bet a total huge with Bowman's for $2000, I had a tip and wanted to bet over, so Bowman's said for every 500$ the line goes up half a point. I bet it and ended up getting the total at 47, 47.5, 48. 48.5, The game finished at 48 points. A local never switches lines once they know what you are betting. I closed my account after that and never played again with BOWMAN's.

Offshore is good for recreational or smaller players, it offers security, peace of mind, more bets.
However and correct me if I'm wrong players like myself who play in the dime range, the
only option is to play locally. I have a $750
weekly carryover cap. EX Saturday I bet on giants and lost 700$, but bet on Oakland $1500, I made 730$, if i was betting offshore would I have Fedexed that 1500$ to mt offshore account? Ignore the post uptop facts are facts hard hitters either play from a local or through Vegas.
 

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"facts hard hitters either play from a local or through Vegas."


You really have no idea what you are talking about. Almost all of as you call them hard hitters are playing offshore not Las Vegas. Las vegas does not take the limits they once did. I do agree that there are some slow paying books out there and scam operations. Compared to locals I would always feel more safe offshore than @ a local shop. One last thing If you think laying a dime puts you in the category of a "Hard hitter" you have no idea.
 
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