Ole Miss at Mississippi State

StuckinNJ

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Ole Miss at Mississippi State

I think this is an easy game to pick the winner and a hard game to handicap. Anyone who wants to take Mississippi State straight up should contact me IMMEDIATELY to arrange credit.

Mississippi State is a bad football team. They have no identity, no consistency and no character ? a perfect reflection of their coach, Jackie Sherrill. This is his last game, and the college football world will be a better place once this sad sack of sh*t is gone. Uh, wait, that doesn?t sound dispassionate, so let?s just pretend that I didn?t write that.

Defensively, Ole Miss is a lot like Miss St opponents Alabama, Auburn and Oregon, if those teams had absolutely no pass defense. This could play right into the hands of Fant, who under any other head coach with half a god-d*mn brain would be putting up decent numbers, but who under Jack*ss Sherrill can?t seem to get more than about 14 completions per game? Wait, wait, it will pass? I think it will pass?

Anyway, just because Ole Miss?s pass defense is lousy doesn?t mean Mississippi State will exploit it ? I really think they will just pretend that it is good, and play their usual incompetent game. I see Mississippi State rushing for about 110 yards on around 26 carries. I look for Fant (who will probably be replaced by York in the 4th because the head dumb*ss in charge couldn?t outcoach Tommy Tuberville, much less a real NCAA Div 1-A coach... sorry, I digress again) and company to put up a passing line like 19-37 for 150, with a TD and a couple of picks. What is this, maybe 10-14 points? Yeah, that seems about right.

I have no idea what Ole Miss is going to do. I don?t know if they will make one last pointless stab at positioning Eli as a Heisman candidate, or pull him early when they start to run away with it. I suspect the former, but am not sure. They?ll get their 40 rushes/ 120 yards in, and I would guess that they wouldn?t pull Eli before he gets his 3 TDs. Couple this performance with a gift or two from Miss St, and I see at least 30 points going up, and think the O/U on Ole Miss really should be about 38.

I tried to develop real numbers for Ole Miss?s performance, but they honestly have not faced a team like Miss St this year. My way just doesn?t work in situations like this. We?ve all seen games, particularly in-state rivalries, where the better team doesn?t want to ?show-up? their opponent. I don?t think that will happen here because bowl bids are still up for grabs and Sherrill is truly hated by a large number of folks in all walks of life, particularly football folks in Oxford, Austin, Tuscaloosa, Nome, Tikrit, Constantinople, Babylon, etc.

So it comes down to this. I cannot see Mississippi State, who hasn?t even won a road game this year (not even at Tulane) doing any better than they have been. If we assume 12 or so points for them, the question becomes, based on a 19 point spread, ?Will Ole Miss put up 31+ points?? I say count on it. I rate this at 3,227.3 stars. I?m betting my unit on Ole Miss -19.
 
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While the Ole Miss pass defense has been pretty lousy in the past, I don't think it is that bad anymore. They did pick off Mauck 3 times, and Chris Leak 4 times, I think. :confused: I think they have improved. They had a breakdown against Texas Tech. Remove that stat and they have had a respectable year.

You are obviously a bitter Ms. State fan. :lol:

These rivalry games get intense, and I honestly think Ms. State has a chance, albeit a small one. I don't think Ole Miss will cover. JMO.

Good luck

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StuckinNJ,

Any man that can predict a 31-17 Boise State victory after a careful and incisive analysis, that came 31-17, deserves to be listened to with respectful attention.

This old man is with you on Ole Miss.

Thank you for the selection!

geeze.
 
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Ole Miss Pass Defense Ain't Good

Ole Miss Pass Defense Ain't Good

Thanks for your point about the Ole Miss defense. I show them to average giving up about 300 passing yards per game . Taking out the Texas Tech game takes it down to about 264 yards per game. From last to next to last (in the SEC) in front of, well what do you know, Mississippi State. Its 45 yards per game from there up to 10th place. THEY ARE BAD.

The point about the interceptions is good as well, but I don't think it comes into play because when Mississippi State is passing, we all are in play for interceptions. By the way, didn't Leaks have only 3 INTs that game?

But what I tried to, ahem, hint at in my first post is that I don't believe Miss State will even try to take advantage of this weakness. Alabama's pass defense is even worse than its 219 yards per game implies, but Miss State put up a stat-killing 100 yards through the air. Sherrill just is out of his depth (4th ring of hell), so I don't think it's going to hurt Ole Miss.

Lastly, I am NOT a Mississippi State fan. I was born and raised in the cult of the Crimson Tide. That IS one reason why I hate Sherrill - he is a blight on the memory of the Bear.
 
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I solved this one in September. When the books were offering "games of the year" with lines for games later in the season, I made two wagers. One was FSU over Notre Dame. I got them at -8, and I think the spread turned out to be -13. Of course, they won so big any line would have won.

The other game I took in September was Ole Miss over MSU at -4. I only wish I'd put more money on it!
 

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I'd say you nailed that one

I'd say you nailed that one

Looks like you had it spotted early on. I am always leery of making those futures bets because of two things - injuries and cashflow. Injuries is probably not a rational fear because that cuts both ways and should be a wash on an expected basis. The cashflow issue is easier to explain, if not defend. I hate to tie up money for a couple of months that I (probably overly optimistically) feel that I can grow with intervening bets.

You know what this world needs? Some easy way to invest in a bet, like your Ole Miss -4 (a truly great position to be in at this point), then sell out of it as its value changes. You can lock in gains with hedging, but then just more money is tied up. What I'm talking about is selling your Ole Miss -4, which was probably a 75% winner at November 1 for about 158% of your intial wager, right there on November 1. Kind of like selling stock options prior to strike. Someone has to do this soon, too much volume not to be able to make a killing with a very small vig.
 

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Re: I'd say you nailed that one

Re: I'd say you nailed that one

StuckinNJ said:
Looks like you had it spotted early on. I am always leery of making those futures bets because of two things - injuries and cashflow. Injuries is probably not a rational fear because that cuts both ways and should be a wash on an expected basis. The cashflow issue is easier to explain, if not defend. I hate to tie up money for a couple of months that I (probably overly optimistically) feel that I can grow with intervening bets.

You know what this world needs? Some easy way to invest in a bet, like your Ole Miss -4 (a truly great position to be in at this point), then sell out of it as its value changes. You can lock in gains with hedging, but then just more money is tied up. What I'm talking about is selling your Ole Miss -4, which was probably a 75% winner at November 1 for about 158% of your intial wager, right there on November 1. Kind of like selling stock options prior to strike. Someone has to do this soon, too much volume not to be able to make a killing with a very small vig.


Not being a math major, I think you're on to something. I think all a book would need was the right logarithm, since there would certainly be people interested...I guess the closest thing now is index wagering?
 

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That God that's over!

That God that's over!

Jackie Sherrill's career, I mean. Perfect send-out. Now maybe Mississippi State can climb out of the Vandy/Kentucky muck and rejoin the mainstream SEC.
 
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