It's been 3 games now and i can honestly say that this defense is horrible. Their is nobody stepping up as a leader and theyalso display horrible tackling. Special teams is the worst i've ever seen too. So if you want to play an over/under, just take the over in every packer game. Packers are at least good for 3 touuchdowns on offense and i figure their defense is good for giving up 3 td's too!