*Please Read Why You Should Not Pay For Picks*

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I am here to post the truth.

I have read alot lately about PAYING FOR PICKS.

How TOUTS don't show you their REAL RECORD.

I want all to read this.

Part I.
 
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Part I

Part I

THIS WAS EMAILED ME TO ME SUNDAY EVENING:

I usually do not list any games as GOY, but after
extensive research on the late game I have found
reasons to label this as I have done. There are
several angles in tonight's game that will lead this
to a winner!

The play alone is 300 that is how strong I feel this
play is. In fact everyone who signs up i will be just
sending my money to a book to put on this selection
tonight. I have been hitting football lately as
yesterday gained +300 units and today looks solid
early.

The first ten people to email me back and say they
want tonight's game will get the rest of the football
season for free and they will also get a guarauntee
that if the team I select tonight does not bring home
the cash you will also get the ENTIRE NBA Season for
free!!

For those
who sign up via western union, please email me to get
the information first, it is important as I have
changed my procedures! Also if you send western union
you will also get everything mentioned above for just
250!
 
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Part I continued

Part I continued

+300 units ? It was +3 units/ +$300.

THE RESPONSE TO +300 units.

My apoligies as I did not mean to mislead anyone and
in fact that would be the last thing I would want to
do.

Yes I am asking 300 for that one game. Although I have
already had the limit respond to me, I will still
extend the bonus to you. The 300 will actually get you
the rest of the NFL season and if the selection loses
you will get the entire NBA season for free. The Game
has many selections with it and it is accompianed by a
extensive writeup with trends and information. Finally
if you western union the money I will knock the price
down to 250.


MEANWHILE AS YOU CAN SEE THE LIMIT WAS HIT FOR HIM.
 
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Part II

Part II

THIS WAS EMAILED ME TO ME SUNDAY MORNING:

Had a great Super Saturday in college football
hitting a live dog in Eastern Michigan at +400
Today in the NFL I have three LIVE DOGS a four
unit selection and a sweep play which includes a play
in the f/h..Today? special is the name your price day?you name
any price (min 20.00) and the card is yours!!!!

If the card does not show a profit you will get
next week for FREE!!

Don?t miss this!!!
 

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Sunday's Plays

Sunday's Plays

One Unit Selection:
Patriots +3
Falcons PK

Two Unit Selection:
Cowboys PK
Jets +3 (LIVE DOG)

Three Unit Selection:
Arizona +4.5 (LIVE DOG)

Four Unit Selection:
Bills +3 (LIVE DOG)


The day was -7 units or/-$700
 

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Part III

Part III

The Game Of The Year

I did not have $300 to send and had a bad feeling about the GOY as I actually have rarely ever won any money with this Capper. YTD way down.

So I asked for the plays and said we would work something out if it was a BIG NIGHT :

THE SUNDAY NIGHT RESPONSE.

I am only doing this because I consider you a friend
and want you to get on the play and I gave you some
bad selections in the NFL. Nonetheless I am keeping
you to your word and expect prompt payment when this
wins and since you did not pay up front, you are not
eligible for any guaruntee.

Looking to make some profit on what actually should be
a very entertaining game.

One Unit Selection:
None

Two unit Selection:
Over f/h

Three Unit Selection:
Over 36

Four Unit Selection:
Browns ?6
Browns ?3-115 f/h

The Ravens were a much different team last year and
they suffered a Monday Night hangover as they won
against Tennessee and then followed that up with a
loss the very next week to the Browns. I look for the
same sort of response tonight.

The Monday night game was a very impressive won that
was fueled by the Raven defense and special teams.
Quarterback Chris Redmen did not impress me as most
of his TD passes were jump balls that were caught by
his Tight End. In the past Butch Davis has thrown
multiple defensive looks at the Ravens that have
caused fits for the opposing Quarterback and it should
be no different tonight.

Also look for the Browns to unveil a high powered four
wide offense tonight. Well, it will not be the first
time they have done this but I look for them to do
tonight more than usual.
When the Browns employ their four-receiver offense,
they move the ball. Spreading out their top four
receivers does two things. One, it brings two
defensive backs onto the field that make the Ravens
more vulnerable ? 32-year-old cornerback James Trapp
and rookie safety Chad Williams. Two, it gets Dennis
Northcutt into the offense. The Browns have waited
three years for Northcutt to make plays. Now that he's
making them, they should keep getting him the ball.

The Browns also know that this is a chance for them to
shine under the Sunday night spotlight and allow them
to make up for performances in the past that were less
than spectacular.
We know the whole world will be watching this game,"
Fuller said. "This is definitley a chance for us to
send a message to the rest of the NFL." "We're a
football team looking for respect," Browns coach Butch
Davis said. "This is an opportunity and maybe a
precursor to play in a Monday night game. And for guys
with Pro Bowl aspirations, these are games that
everybody in the country can take a look at."
"I know that within the industry, one of the things
about playing on Monday Night Football is you know
your peers are going to be watching. It's true on
Sunday, as well.
"Most guys are going to go home, turn on the TV and
see what happened during the day and catch at least
the first half of that Sunday night game. It means a
little something more any time you get the national
exposure."
The Browns have been craving the country's attention
since that painful night on Sept. 12, 1999, when the
Steelers forced fumbles -- and home viewers to channel
surf.
"To get a chance to play on national TV is big for
this team," Couch said. "This is definitely a great
game for TV, too. The Baltimore-Cleveland game with
the history these two teams have.
"With Baltimore being the old Browns, and all that.
It's a big rivalry, a division game and there's a lot
riding on it for us."
The Browns defense will stop the ground game forcing
the Ravens to go to the air which will lead to
turnovers and scores for the Browns.
Cleveland Trends:
Play Against - Road underdogs (BALTIMORE) - off a huge
double digit upset win as an underdog of 6 more.
(22-10 ATS) (68.8%, +11 units. Rating = 0*)
Play Against - Road underdogs of 7 points or less
(BALTIMORE) - off an upset win by 10 points or more as
an underdog. (49-27 ATS) (64.5%, +19.3 units. Rating =
2*)
Play Against - Road underdogs (BALTIMORE) - off an
upset win by 10 points or more as an underdog. (65-39
ATS) (62.5%, +22.1 units. Rating = 2*)
Play Against - Road underdogs (BALTIMORE) - off an
upset win by 10 or more as a home underdog. (42-23
ATS) (64.6%, +16.7 units. Rating = 1*)
Play Against - Road underdogs of 7 points or less
(BALTIMORE) - off an upset win by 10 or more as a home
underdog. (31-16 ATS) (66%, +13.4 units. Rating = 1*)
CLEVELAND is 8-2 ATS (+5.8 Units) when they rush for
75 to 100 yards over the last 3 seasons.
The average score was CLEVELAND 20.6, OPPONENT 18.7


And the Over:
CLEVELAND is 12-3 OVER (+8.7 Units) after allowing 99
or less rushing yards in 2 straight games since 1992.
The average score was CLEVELAND 18.8, OPPONENT 22.0 -
(Rating = 1*)
CLEVELAND is 5-1 OVER (+3.9 Units) off a close loss by
7 points or less to a division rival since 1992. The
average score was CLEVELAND 12.8, OPPONENT 26.3 -
(Rating = 0*)
CLEVELAND is 16-5 OVER (+10.5 Units) off a division
game over the last 3 seasons. The average score was
CLEVELAND 16.5, OPPONENT 24.9 - (Rating = 1*)
CLEVELAND is 5-1 OVER (+3.9 Units) off a road loss
against a division rival over the last 3 seasons. The
average score was CLEVELAND 16.2, OPPONENT 32.2 -
(Rating = 0*)
CLEVELAND is 5-1 OVER (+3.9 Units) off an extremely
close loss by 3 points or less to a division rival
since 1992. The average score was CLEVELAND 12.8,
OPPONENT 26.3 - (Rating = 0*)


Browns in the first half:
There are 3 situations with a total rating of 4 stars.
Play Against - Road underdogs of 3.5 points or less
vs. the 1rst half line (BALTIMORE) - after playing on
Monday night football. (36-19 ATS) (65.5%, +15.1
units. Rating = 1*)
Play Against - Road underdogs of 3.5 points or less
vs. the 1rst half line (BALTIMORE) - off an upset win
by 10 or more as a home underdog. (34-16 ATS) (68%,
+16.4 units. Rating = 1*)
Play Against - Road underdogs vs. the 1rst half line
(BALTIMORE) - off an upset win by 10 or more as a home
underdog. (46-22 ATS) (67.6%, +21.8 units. Rating =
2*)

Potential StatFox Power Trends based on estimated
statistics favoring CLEVELAND to cover the first half
line
BALTIMORE is 1-7 against the 1rst half line (-6.7
Units) in road games when they rush for 4 to 4.5 yards
per attempt since 1992.The average score was BALTIMORE
9.3, OPPONENT 10.5
CLEVELAND is 18-7 against the 1rst half line (+10.3
Units) when their defense forces 2 turnovers since
1992.The average score was CLEVELAND 10.3, OPPONENT
10.4
CLEVELAND is 5-1 against the 1rst half line (+3.9
Units) when they allow 15 to 21 points over the last 3
seasons.The average score was CLEVELAND 9.8, OPPONENT
6.8
CLEVELAND is 6-1 against the 1rst half line (+4.9
Units) when they allow 5 to 5.5 net passing
yards/attempt since 1992.The average score was
CLEVELAND 12.0, OPPONENT 4.1
CLEVELAND is 9-2 against the 1rst half line (+6.8
Units) when they rush for 75 to 100 yards over the
last 3 seasons.The average score was CLEVELAND 11.8,
OPPONENT 9.3
BALTIMORE is 1-5 against the 1rst half line (-4.5
Units) in road games after allowing 300 or more
passing yards in their last game since 1992. The
average score was BALTIMORE 4.3, OPPONENT 13.8 -
(Rating = 0*)
BALTIMORE is 5-14 against the 1rst half line (-10.4
Units) in road games off a home win since 1992. The
average score was BALTIMORE 6.5, OPPONENT 10.0 -
(Rating = 0*)
CLEVELAND is 6-1 against the 1rst half line (+4.9
Units) in home games after a loss by 3 or less points
since 1992. The average score was CLEVELAND 11.6,
OPPONENT 6.7 - (Rating = 0*)
CLEVELAND is 5-1 against the 1rst half line (+3.9
Units) after a loss by 6 or less points over the last
3 seasons. The average score was CLEVELAND 12.3,
OPPONENT 7.7 - (Rating = 0*)
CLEVELAND is 7-1 against the 1rst half line (+5.9
Units) in home games after being outgained by opp by
100 or more total yards last game over the last 3
seasons. The average score was CLEVELAND 10.1,
OPPONENT 7.5 - (Rating = 0*)
CLEVELAND is 14-5 against the 1rst half line (+8.5
Units) in the first half of the season over the last 3
seasons. The average score was CLEVELAND 9.1, OPPONENT
9.3 - (Rating = 0*)
CLEVELAND is 6-1 against the 1rst half line (+4.9
Units) in home games off a cover where the team lost
as an underdog since 1992. The average score was
CLEVELAND 9.3, OPPONENT 10.0 - (Rating = 0*)


Predicted Final Scores:
Halftime: Browns 17 Ravens 6
Final: Browns 30 Ravens 12


YOU DO THE MATH -7 UNITS/-$700.
 
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Part IV

Part IV

Why do I post this you ask ?

NOTICE nowhere did I mention who this was....ANYWHERE.

I am really sick to my stomach thinking of the people who sent him

$300 before kickoff to get these. It would not surprise me if it

was 10+. I know alot of you are saying "What kind of idiot would

send $300 for 1 game?" There are alot of people out there that

would and did. I might be ignorant and so may the others, but it

happens everyday. If these people actually followed the plays

each of these people lost $1000 last night. The people here are

teaching me more and more to JUST DO MY OWN DD and never

pay for picks.
 
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Hey highroller, email me please, have a couple questions for you. Jacks got it. Thanks.
 

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Part V

Part V

This Handicapper has been asked for months to post a
daily/weekly/monthly record.

It has never been done on a consistent basis. It has been here and there never allowing to track the REAL WINS/LOSSES...Here are the reasons I have been told :My website is almost done...(months later).I am setting up with a 2nd Party Verifier so as to prove my records are accurate...(months later).

This board is free speech forum and I hope MY MISTAKES are

lessons people will learn from.


To be Continued.
 

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Oh here we go, another pay vs non pay debate. Just let people do what they want end of story.
 

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TCSN

TCSN

To be be dead honest this is not a debate.

It is just one mans recent DOWNFALL (or maybe alot of others).

I hope to enlighten others.

That's All.

I know losing $1000 on one game can be devasting.
 

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:topic: :topic: :topic:

The bottom line is who cares? Are you hear to warn us someone had a bad run? Whoopty do, do this long enough and you will have a bad run like that. Who gives a shit, they could be starting a 100-0 run tonight, you have no way of knowing.

Bottom line, if you have luck with someone play them. If you dont, dont. If we arent old enough to decide this on our own then we shouldnt be doing this.
 

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Does not surprise me at all. Seen this chit for 35 years. They just got better at it. That's the scammers hand book you posted above. It comes in all sizes. Does not have to be for 300 bucks. Some start out with free picks and work there way up. Some after there in business, In fact most give you a freebie or two every week or every day. There just praying they hit so you will start sending your checks in. Oldest con game in the world. Well next to the oldest business in the world whoring. Almost the same thing. :(
 

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Well said Ace......highroller, maybe you should just stop gambling and take responsibility for your own actions. Even if you choose a pay service, they're are plenty that are monitored by independent monitoring sites. Suggest you check them first?? My suggestion is learn some mathmatical probability rather than basing your opinion over just a few games.....never mind just stop cluttering the boards and learn responsibility or just quit betting. :shrug:
 

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Just to clarify :

Just to clarify :

I never paid for the GOY picks last night.

Not a dime !
 

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Among Libtards!!
not off topic at all.....

not off topic at all.....

if a post like this helps only one person, it is a good idea. I think we should all realize that this site is browsed by a lot of people who are new to gambling and in particular sports betting. Unfortunately sports betting is an ongoing process of learning and evolving from mistakes you make....one of which could be paying for losing picks. Anybody can pick a loser, you don't need to pay for it twice...pick your own games, if you lose, at least you'll know it was YOUR decision and hopefully you can learn from it and come back stronger in your next selection...so highroller I believe is just trying to help and for that he shouldn't be blasted. Good luck tonight in the MNF game in whatever you play!!!:cool:
 
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