I notice that you have not been posting the steam plays or the Ftsm plays anymore. I was wondering why not.....would not bet them blindly, but would give them an extra look. Anyway thank you for posting them.
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I wondered the same thing, I missed a few days here and didn't want to bring it up. I always enjoyed looking at them, and appreciate the effort it took to post them.
Sorry guys.
To be honest, Kosar's attack on August 10 really took a lot of my enthusiasm for posting the STEAM PLAYS and FTSM PLAYS away.
His claims that I was "propagating nonsense" and references to the "the absurdity of that whole 'system'" made me so angry I was ready to toss my computer. I guess the thing that really pushed me over the edge was being called "wwf boy" which I don't even know what that measns, but I haven't been call boy since the sixties when I joined the Navy.
If you guys really want this stuff I will do an update on the steam plays in a minute. I have been keeping the logs and using the information for myself. I can't go back and do a catch up on the FTSM Plays because I don't log them. I just use the steam system as a confirmation technique against other plays that I get from other handicappers on here and some of my own technical analysis.
I think most of you know that I have no hidden agenda. I just enjoy helping others try to beat the system. I enjoy it myself. We all know there are no easy ways to do it and sometimes (like the last week) it seems damn near impossible. I guess I just decided to pull back a bit.
I will try to keep forwarding the lineup information and steam alerts for those that appreciate it and I will also try not to be too sensitive to attacks from those who don't.
Back with an update in a bit.
"wwf boy"
To be honest, Kosar's attack on August 10 really took a lot of my enthusiasm for posting the STEAM PLAYS and FTSM PLAYS away.
His claims that I was "propagating nonsense" and references to the "the absurdity of that whole 'system'" made me so angry I was ready to toss my computer. I guess the thing that really pushed me over the edge was being called "wwf boy" which I don't even know what that measns, but I haven't been call boy since the sixties when I joined the Navy.
If you guys really want this stuff I will do an update on the steam plays in a minute. I have been keeping the logs and using the information for myself. I can't go back and do a catch up on the FTSM Plays because I don't log them. I just use the steam system as a confirmation technique against other plays that I get from other handicappers on here and some of my own technical analysis.
I think most of you know that I have no hidden agenda. I just enjoy helping others try to beat the system. I enjoy it myself. We all know there are no easy ways to do it and sometimes (like the last week) it seems damn near impossible. I guess I just decided to pull back a bit.
I will try to keep forwarding the lineup information and steam alerts for those that appreciate it and I will also try not to be too sensitive to attacks from those who don't.
Back with an update in a bit.
"wwf boy"
NCU,
You shouldn't let people run you off so easily. Just because somebody has a differing opinion doesn't mean you should take your ball and go home. I think that I simply presented 'the other side of the story'. So, you have 10 or 15 people on your jock and one person who (publically)disagees with you. That's not exactly taking a lot of heat.
My first query about this system was simply, "what information does Pinnacle consistently have that we all don't have access to?"
You responded, "they have big players" and went on to complain about having to answer questions.
I went down point by point with Profitcity about the rest of the system after you bowed out, so i'm not going to re-hash it.
If you re-read that thread, 'wwf boy' was in my response to Nick Douglas after he ripped me a new one. Admittedly, it was a juvenille comment, but it wasn't directed at you.
Do whatever you want, but don't blame me because you don't feel like posting your stuff anymore. That's a weak cop-out.
You shouldn't let people run you off so easily. Just because somebody has a differing opinion doesn't mean you should take your ball and go home. I think that I simply presented 'the other side of the story'. So, you have 10 or 15 people on your jock and one person who (publically)disagees with you. That's not exactly taking a lot of heat.
My first query about this system was simply, "what information does Pinnacle consistently have that we all don't have access to?"
You responded, "they have big players" and went on to complain about having to answer questions.
I went down point by point with Profitcity about the rest of the system after you bowed out, so i'm not going to re-hash it.
If you re-read that thread, 'wwf boy' was in my response to Nick Douglas after he ripped me a new one. Admittedly, it was a juvenille comment, but it wasn't directed at you.
Do whatever you want, but don't blame me because you don't feel like posting your stuff anymore. That's a weak cop-out.
NCU i don't post often, but i wanted you to know you are one of the reasons i check back all day long. don't let a few bad things take away one of the good things at madjacks. thats you and others like you who are only here to help. i appreciate all your effort. .....still here to learn ...gemi
NCU, don't let it get to you. you're in pretty good company (Jack, IE, Fletcher, Ray, Barfly, and most anyone else that has posted here over a year) except me. I'm sure that will change now because I know Gator is lucking out there somewhere just waiting to nail me.
(ain't you glad you taught me how to do that) I'm interested in anyone's idea that might have merit. Only time will tell whether it works or not. I've learned one thing for sure, there's nothing stupid about tracking anything when cappin' baseball. That's how we all learn and Jack and IE have encouraged this from day one. If you are willing to take the time to post it, I'm willing to keep checking to see how it does. Good luck
Hey Never Caught Up... I really didn't start posting comments until recently but I have been reading the posts for over a year now.. Just thought I would say that I also appreciate any work you put forth to help others out in trying to beat the man... Its hard enough to try to beat the system and if we all work together maybe we can try to fill our pockets every now and then.. Thanks for all the hard work.. Keep it up...
Hey NCU, I wouldn't pay attention to the criticism, especially from Kosar, as he seems to criticize everyone. Just out of curiousity do you feel as though Pinnacle's line is as strong in Football and Basketball. I just started playing with them during basketball season and though their NBA lines, were strong, their college hoops lines weren't as strong. I have to agree with you about baseball lines, as I have about lost all I made there during college hoops season.
Baseball is where I notice it the most, although their NBA totals lines were pretty strong. I discovered that by just following where my money went and where it cam from. Seems like it always went to them.
In football I don't even pay that much attention to it, but I will get back in tune when NCAA hoops and NBA start up.
By the way, for those of you I got to know during NBA season, I just renewed my season tickets for next year on the Spurs. I will try to give as much meaningful insight as I can on our only professional team in San Antonio. I watch them closely and never miss a home game. Right now I am not nearly as optimistic as I was last year. We have lost some players from last year's team (Derrick Anderson, Sean Elliot and Avery Johnson) that may be hard to replace.
In football I don't even pay that much attention to it, but I will get back in tune when NCAA hoops and NBA start up.
By the way, for those of you I got to know during NBA season, I just renewed my season tickets for next year on the Spurs. I will try to give as much meaningful insight as I can on our only professional team in San Antonio. I watch them closely and never miss a home game. Right now I am not nearly as optimistic as I was last year. We have lost some players from last year's team (Derrick Anderson, Sean Elliot and Avery Johnson) that may be hard to replace.
Kosar,
You have such a way with words.
When I started to read your reply I thought you might have actually grown up and done the right thing. Obviosly, you have not.
NCU, do your best to ignore and thanx for your contributions.
You have such a way with words.
When I started to read your reply I thought you might have actually grown up and done the right thing. Obviosly, you have not.
NCU, do your best to ignore and thanx for your contributions.
Hyperion/Topspinner,
I'll pass along your thoughts/concerns to Jack. He's snoring as loud as hell right behind me now, but i'll catch him in the morning. IE just left our room, but i'll pass along your sentiments to him as well.
We're going to hit the Orioles game tomorrow night. Who should we take??
I'll pass along your thoughts/concerns to Jack. He's snoring as loud as hell right behind me now, but i'll catch him in the morning. IE just left our room, but i'll pass along your sentiments to him as well.
We're going to hit the Orioles game tomorrow night. Who should we take??
