RUSSIA HELPED SADDAM HIDE WEAPONS BEFORE INVASION!!

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:clap: :clap: ....where did the WMDs probably go???

BREAKING NEWS---
Russian Special forces helped SAddam move weapons into Syria right before the Iraqi invasion!
MANSON WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG!!!!!!!!!! BOW DOWN LIBERLALS!!! :clap:

Months and months ago I told everyone that I thought Saddam moved his weapons into Syria right before the invasion. Of course Charlie was right!!!! All of you liberlas can kiss my ass now and you too John Kerry...you LOSER!!!!!!!!

I hardly ever cut n paste but this is the story of the year folks. :clap:
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Russian special forces troops moved many of Saddam Hussein's weapons and related goods out of Iraq and into Syria in the weeks before the March 2003 U.S. military operation, The Washington Times has learned.
John A. Shaw, the deputy undersecretary of defense for international technology security, said in an interview that he believes the Russian troops, working with Iraqi intelligence, "almost certainly" removed the high-explosive material that went missing from the Al-Qaqaa facility, south of Baghdad."The Russians brought in, just before the war got started, a whole series of military units," Mr. Shaw said. "Their main job was to shred all evidence of any of the contractual arrangements they had with the Iraqis. The others were transportation units."
Mr. Shaw, who was in charge of cataloging the tons of conventional arms provided to Iraq by foreign suppliers, said he recently obtained reliable information on the arms-dispersal program from two European intelligence services that have detailed knowledge of the Russian-Iraqi weapons collaboration.
Most of Saddam's most powerful arms were systematically separated from other arms like mortars, bombs and rockets, and sent to Syria and Lebanon, and possibly to Iran, he said.
The disappearance of the material was reported in a letter Oct. 10 from the Iraqi government to the International Atomic Energy Agency.
Disclosure of the missing explosives Monday in a New York Times story was used by the Democratic presidential campaign of Sen. John Kerry, who accused the Bush administration of failing to secure the material.
Al-Qaqaa, a known Iraqi weapons site, was monitored closely, Mr. Shaw said.
"That was such a pivotal location, Number 1, that the mere fact of [special explosives] disappearing was impossible," Mr. Shaw said. "And Number 2, if the stuff disappeared, it had to have gone before we got there."
The Pentagon disclosed yesterday that the Al-Qaqaa facility was defended by Fedayeen Saddam, Special Republican Guard and other Iraqi military units during the conflict. U.S. forces defeated the defenders around April 3 and found the gates to the facility open, the Pentagon said in a statement yesterday.
A military unit in charge of searching for weapons, the Army's 75th Exploitation Task Force, then inspected Al-Qaqaa on May 8, May 11 and May 27, 2003, and found no high explosives that had been monitored in the past by the IAEA.
The Pentagon said there was no evidence of large-scale movement of explosives from the facility after April 6.
"The movement of 377 tons of heavy ordnance would have required dozens of heavy trucks and equipment moving along the same roadways as U.S. combat divisions occupied continually for weeks prior to and subsequent to the 3rd Infantry Division's arrival at the facility," the statement said.
The statement also said that the material may have been removed from the site by Saddam's regime.
According to the Pentagon, U.N. arms inspectors sealed the explosives at Al-Qaqaa in January 2003 and revisited the site in March and noted that the seals were not broken.
It is not known whether the inspectors saw the explosives in March. The U.N. team left the country before the U.S.-led invasion began March 20, 2003.
A second defense official said documents on the Russian support to Iraq reveal that Saddam's government paid the Kremlin for the special forces to provide security for Iraq's Russian arms and to conduct counterintelligence activities designed to prevent U.S. and Western intelligence services from learning about the arms pipeline through Syria.
The Russian arms-removal program was initiated after Yevgeny Primakov, the former Russian intelligence chief, could not persuade Saddam to give in to U.S. and Western demands, this official said.
A small portion of Iraq's 650,000 tons to 1 million tons of conventional arms that were found after the war were looted after the U.S.-led invasion, Mr. Shaw said. Russia was Iraq's largest foreign supplier of weaponry, he said.
However, the most important and useful arms and explosives appear to have been separated and moved out as part of carefully designed program. "The organized effort was done in advance of the conflict," Mr. Shaw said.
The Russian forces were tasked with moving special arms out of the country.
Mr. Shaw said foreign intelligence officials believe the Russians worked with Saddam's Mukhabarat intelligence service to separate out special weapons, including high explosives and other arms and related technology, from standard conventional arms spread out in some 200 arms depots.
The Russian weapons were then sent out of the country to Syria, and possibly Lebanon in Russian trucks, Mr. Shaw said.
Mr. Shaw said he believes that the withdrawal of Russian-made weapons and explosives from Iraq was part of plan by Saddam to set up a "redoubt" in Syria that could be used as a base for launching pro-Saddam insurgency operations in Iraq.
The Russian units were dispatched beginning in January 2003 and by March had destroyed hundreds of pages of documents on Russian arms supplies to Iraq while dispersing arms to Syria, the second official said.
Besides their own weapons, the Russians were supplying Saddam with arms made in Ukraine, Belarus, Bulgaria and other Eastern European nations, he said.
"Whatever was not buried was put on lorries and sent to the Syrian border," the defense official said.
Documents reviewed by the official included itineraries of military units involved in the truck shipments to Syria. The materials outlined in the documents included missile components, MiG jet parts, tank parts and chemicals used to make chemical weapons, the official said.
The director of the Iraqi government front company known as the Al Bashair Trading Co. fled to Syria, where he is in charge of monitoring arms holdings and funding Iraqi insurgent activities, the official said.
Also, an Arabic-language report obtained by U.S. intelligence disclosed the extent of Russian armaments. The 26-page report was written by Abdul Tawab Mullah al Huwaysh, Saddam's minister of military industrialization, who was captured by U.S. forces May 2, 2003.
The Russian "spetsnaz" or special-operations forces were under the GRU military intelligence service and organized large commercial truck convoys for the weapons removal, the official said.
Regarding the explosives, the new Iraqi government reported that 194.7 metric tons of HMX, or high-melting-point explosive, and 141.2 metric tons of RDX, or rapid-detonation explosive, and 5.8 metric tons of PETN, or pentaerythritol tetranitrate, were missing.
The material is used in nuclear weapons and also in making military "plastic" high explosive.
Defense officials said the Russians can provide information on what happened to the Iraqi weapons and explosives that were transported out of the country. Officials believe the Russians also can explain what happened to Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs.
 

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Great post Charlesmanson. I should have read this before I posted a new thread on the same subject. Next time I will look at all post before posting...
 

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The Dave and Chuck Show.

Great info. Sadamm sending weapons to Iran? Iran? You mean the Iran who was at war with Iraq? Oh, now I get it.

I guess our military satelites were on the fritz in the middle east right before we invaded Iraq and we missed that. Dog gone it Rockwell-Collins, I knew we shoulda put more gizmos in that last satellite we sold to the Pentagon. Damn. Forgot to kick the tires and check the oil.

Just let me know when the air raid sirens start going off in Damascus. Better watch out though, I heard that just before we invade Syria, these little brown devils are going to move the weapons across the border into Kansas.

Eddie
 

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CLEM D---Are you saying this story about Russian Special Forces is FALSE???? Would you like to debate me on it?? BRING IT ON BIOTCH!!! :clap:

DENIAL OF THE LIBERALS!! Adios John Kerry....your doom is sealed!!! This is what that jackass Kerry gets for jumping the gun and blaming Bush!!! What a total idiot!!! :142lmao:

This is what you liberals get for blaming Bush all this time! Now we find out that the "big guns" were moved into Syria right before the invasion??? I predicted this all along...go read my old posts from waaaaaaaaaaaay back!

...and to all you Kerry supporters who have critisized Bush for fighting an un-just war, now that the truth is out, you guys can all suck the fart out of my ass :thefinger
 

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As Eddie said: what about our satellites?

Here and I thought Bush and Putin were great buddies...you know: "I talk to these people every day! I know how they think!".

"Mixed messages, mixed messages, mixed messages, hard work hard work hard work" - man I think there is a good rap tune in there somewhere.
 

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Blame Bush right??? LMAO If Kerry were president Saddam would STILL be in power and in possession of all those weapons!!!

The only thing I blame Bush for was not invading SOONER!!!

:bigun:
 

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Is it as comical as CBS falsifying documents to make Bush look bad?
Is it as comical as John Kerry reading the NY Times story and running with it without knowing the facts??? accusing our military of not protecting munitions that were already gone when we arrived???
IMO that was the nail in the coffin. You'll see. :)
 

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That was Rudy G. who blamed the military as a way of trying to protect Bush. It looks like they will stoop to anything to protect the Monkey King.
 

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Eddie Haskell said:
I guess our military satelites were on the fritz in the middle east right before we invaded Iraq and we missed that. Dog gone it Rockwell-Collins, I knew we shoulda put more gizmos in that last satellite we sold to the Pentagon. Damn. Forgot to kick the tires and check the oil.

Eddie

The satellite images? just saw them on the news
released right when i came home.
ya idiot. the only thing you liberals see are the inside of your eyelids:poke
 

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Yeah, and the satelite images showed large trucks emptying out the weapons facility. The first soldiers who arrived on the scene even saw the tire tracks of trucks that remained. SATELITE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN 2 DAYS BEFORE THE INVASION BEGAN!!!! .....that's all I need to know!! :clap:

SO far I've seen 3 different soldiers from the 101st interviewed and they all say when they arrived there for the first time all the seals were broken and the place was almost empty. All they saw were some barrels, some drums, some miscelaneous small weaponry, some boxes etc. NOTHING OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE when it came to the amount of weapons that were tagged and stolen before we arrived there.

I trust and support our TROOPS WHO WERE THERE IN PERSON, not the liberal media. You guys do what you want, it's your life.
 
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