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J.taylor un 6.5 rounds-145 think he makes fast work of him. few rounds to box and work on skills then lights him up 4 or 5th round.

Box i have sent you 3 emails mail me when you get a chance.

Good luck

Fletcher
 

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Got it i knew taylors camp wanted to get some rounds in , got a little pissed he taylor could of took him out under 3 or 4 if he wanted to, by doing what he did to end it, but you take a chance at times when a fighter and their camp says they want to get some work in and 6.5 is not a lot of time to work and then get the stop, but when taylor was ready to end it he did it, and like i said could of been done faster, he did not throw may rights or body work, he was working on a stiffer jab and tht made me a little pissed off , wanted it over quicker but knew like i said taylor's camp wanted some rounds and had read it for a few weeks so the followed what they said they were going to do , and then closed the show for us, it was not like he was fighting a t-can either but he could of took him iut under 4 if he wanted. Just way to much strength, and all he really worked on for 5 rounds was stiff hard jab and double jab, then in the 6th they said lets pick it up to the body and walk him and got our win close but still a win.

good luck till next time

Eric

one thing taylor is going to have to do is not live off the left hand to the head yes it is firm and was more straight and did have a few left hooks but he needs to work the body more, he has the power and it all starts by breaking down the body.

have a Good week

Eric

Joey start posting some lines if you want more action, f-that draw shit go back to how it use to be or just get out all together if you don't want to post ko/tko/dq line. you have already yanked the take back numbers with the 40 cents at least post some other lines and like i said if you don't want the action just get out of it all together, nothing personal but it has gone down hill big time and it starts with the man who hangs the number and that is you. it is not like someone is going to rape you guys so having some flexabilty would be nice.
 

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Here is a classic example mitchell fight ov 10.5-225 un +185, you and that 40 cent stuff is just unreal. hell you should work with mantaries and stations casions about the same type of bs 85% of the time. But like i said other places that have better and more over the last year, it is like i said it's like you want action on your terms not a fair amount for the players side. you can say you carry more then anyone, but you need to look around some others are right there with you and have better options, don't know what and why the change over the last 8-12 months but does no good to have most lined fights if line is tilted and no options to very your picks, trust me i am far from the only one to feel this way also.
 

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kicking myself for not playing the under tonight...i sat on my hands....as it turned out,i was glad i didn`t.....don`t need the aggravation....taylor could have finished this anytime he wanted to...great call..you shouldn`t have had to sweat this at all...

knew that bunema was nowhere near a legit middleweight.....when they stepped into the ring,i almost choked.....taylor was SO much bigger than bunema it was a little scary....i can understand why taylor`s people didn`t want to weigh him the day of the bout...he had to be 15 pounds heavier...

hbo keeps this up and they`re gonna have a casualty on their hands....

and not one of the commentators made the point...they were to busy coming all over themselves slapping taylor on the back....

this was a mismatch....bunema got crushed by kassim ouma....the guy has 12 k.o.`s in 24 wins as a jr middleweight...what a set up...

you wouldn`t know it from listening to these guys...i was shaking my head...pure spin...

taylor`s got super talent...no question...lets start fighting legit middleweight contenders...it`s a weak division...there`s not much resistance for a guy like taylor...he doesn`t have to fight little guys...

to be fair,he was a replacement...but,it was a poor choice....somebody`s gonna get maimed if they keep pulling this stuff...

as far as guinn goes,the guy was exposed tonight....we saw him look good against bigger,slower guys like grant and dokiwari....

guinn is stiff,lacks good power,and smothers himself by stepping into his man with the jab...he doesn`t leave himself room to throw anything behind his jab...a very weird style that worked by smothering counters from bigger guys....but,left him wthout the ability to throw more than one shot at a time.......

congrats to barrett...that`s the best i`ve ever seen him...he was quicker and,imo,had more snap on his shots.....

what was that one judge thinking?....lord....do you have to live in a nursing home to judge a fight in arkansas?.....lol...

congrats on getting that under...it should have been much easier than taylor made it...you had the right prop...

g.l.
 
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fletch..............drop me an email and maybe i can explain to you why it is the way it is. sure you know my personal email addy. other than that, bet somewhere else. When I hang a number and take 20 bets and teh next day every toilet in the biz copies and reduces the juice and gets praised? you can have it. The action we write on the opener is more than most places write on a months worth. No offense, but if there is a better guy out there for the job, you have my blessing. Send spiro a resume. I beat boxing to death before oly and will do so after. I would be just as happy to risk my cash on my opinion as to have guys firing in on me. And I wouldnt have to explain myself in the forums. Good luck to them.
 

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i will give you a call mon or tues , I just would like to see more of the other lines that i talked about, i am sure there is a reason , but i hate to move my guys around after i ravied on how good it was there, and still back you guys as one of the books for most sports for not just my people but anyone who ask and that will never change, but the boxing i am just getting more bitching then i want and , well we will talk privite monday or tues really no-ones business on what i was going to say, except you and the big guy, but you know i stand behind you all over there just need to see if we can get a few other minor things worked out and I am sure we can for them, they are not going to break the bank, but thats personal and we will speak next week, would make it easier on me, i am sure we will get a happy middle, that is all i am looking for, makes my job a lot easier with all at one place for fights insted of me getting calls and emails out the backside with questions on books i just can't even give a rec. to we have always worked well together and going to be working with jamaica and scotty with some baseball things , so will get with you next week. have a good sunday and i will call next week and see what we can figure out, thanks J and like i said still stand behind you and the big guy and always will, i know if the people i send there win they will get paid and there money is safe, so that is one thing and the major reason i like to stay there and easy for them to work site.

take care

Eric
 

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Kool. Part of the problem. I havent been in Jamaica in over a year and 1/2. LOL. I will explain by phone. Email me at Joeybagels@hotmail.com and I will give you a contact number. I do all my work remotely for OLY just like many of his other guys that didnt like the 'island atmosphere.' Drop me the mail and we will get in touch. Thanks.

Joey
 

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Fletcher, could you confirm which round the fight ended.
Was it the 6 th or 7 th ???
My guy says 7, but i was interperting your comments to be the 6 th for the win under 6.5.
Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
 

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2.12 left in round 7 which makes you a winner un 6.5 rounds means 6 full rounds and 1:30 into the 7th he is trying to pull a fast one on you, he needs to learn about boxing rules or he thinks you are stupid and just let him rip you off, you won and make sure you get paid, if not email me and tell me the book jack will give you my email and if it is a local tell him i will send him any rules offshore or vegas they are all the same , there is no way he can cheat his way out of this. you won by 48 secs.
 

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Fletcher is 100% correct. I was routing my ass off for another 40 some odd seconds. I must have gotten 25 emails bitching from the guys taht bet over. Always a prob when teh totals land. In any case UNDER got the win, undoubtably. You can get backup if u send me an ATTN: Joey Boxing at Support@thegreek.com if you need an official sportsbook ruling to back up ur claim. Under 6.5 rounds won the money. Good job on the pick.......but these totals are getting pretty sharp........... :cool:
 

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Fletcher and Oddessa

Fletcher and Oddessa

Thanks for the update and ruling.
Oddessa, I may take you up on the email at Support @thegreek.com.
Thanks again, that's why this forum is tops.
 

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If you can't get money you need to email Joey he will have more of a business pull, if you still can't get your money after that email me the number i will have a different type of pull;)
 

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Thanks for all the help Fletcher, very much appreciated.
It's a local guy, so he does not get a lot of boxing action.
I will speak to him tonight and pass on the results.
Regards.
 

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resolved

resolved

Thanks to Fletcher and Oddessa, I won.
He e mailed a sportsbook and received clarification.
Thanks gentlemen.
 

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I am glad for you and glad we can help out, if there is ever a scoring question , there is enough pull here to get it fixed, Joey is always able to send out the officle scoring rules, i know enough people to also help, and also have sonny who i can get ahold of and so can joey who writes for ring mag and whould also back up the info, sometimes the player is wrong to but either way the real honest truth will be found out and backed uo either for the player or the book, have to side with who is ever right and that is the only fair way to be in this business.

Even though at times it might look like Joey and i have words they are'nt we both respect each other and he knows what i was looking for more of and i always stand behind olympic, I know the money is there never have to worry and if there is a problem I know i can pick up the phone and call and get who i want from the big guy to joey or who ever I need and won't get the run around and if they tell me they are not in or the man is off the island then it is the truth and i get a call from who ever i need in a day or 2. last thing i want to worry about if i am on the road which i am a lot is to have to worry about having larger money in a offshore book then i like and not feeling safe with it their or not feel safe if there is a mistake and not having someone look at it and being fair about it with me or people i have sent over there. that is just not going to happen with them in my book and why it is one of my top books when someone ask as is, pinncale, bet jamica, cris. there are more but I like to deal with who I need not get the run around from a sales clerk.
 

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As always Fletcher, you are a true gentleman.
Thanks for the help and support.
Good Luck with the fights this weekend.
 
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