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i just looked at your posts and added them up and found you were +.8% today.
why are you deceiving people?
why are you deceiving people?
THUNDER:
I must say, that while I have posted in the past, I do look at your posts since you are very consistent in the 5% and above bet categories. That UCLA bet tonight was about as splendid as I have seen in a while. I have KU as an +2 adv tomorrow, but I was wondering what you thought about Ohio St -1.5? Anyway, I think that you are a great capper who is disciplined with money management and I respect your picks. A fan....JD
PS: Freeze leave the man alone.. I can't believe that you are tallying his % through the day...plus, if you prescribe the a % system the % will fluctuate with % wins and losses accordingly. That is if your win % increases an 8% bet could turn out to be in acutal terms 15+% by the end of the day if you start with a constant bankroll. :shrug:
I must say, that while I have posted in the past, I do look at your posts since you are very consistent in the 5% and above bet categories. That UCLA bet tonight was about as splendid as I have seen in a while. I have KU as an +2 adv tomorrow, but I was wondering what you thought about Ohio St -1.5? Anyway, I think that you are a great capper who is disciplined with money management and I respect your picks. A fan....JD
PS: Freeze leave the man alone.. I can't believe that you are tallying his % through the day...plus, if you prescribe the a % system the % will fluctuate with % wins and losses accordingly. That is if your win % increases an 8% bet could turn out to be in acutal terms 15+% by the end of the day if you start with a constant bankroll. :shrug:
well he started out in the hole then and the percentage would be less if you look at it that way.......i am quick with numbers and it took me 2 minutes to see that his numbers were way off.......
why would you want miscalculations to go unnoticed?......do you think that inflated numbers actually help anyone?
why would you want miscalculations to go unnoticed?......do you think that inflated numbers actually help anyone?
Yeh I agree with the Doc! While I haven't played anything just because Thunder said so, I have been paying alot more attention mainly due to his up percentage!
I would like to know your answer as well.
Thanks Freeze for taking the time to check this out.
I would like to know your answer as well.
Thanks Freeze for taking the time to check this out.
Boys,Boys let it go, if you do not follow Thunders selections then why bother beating him up about his %. I look at his picks often and he is very good and says nothing bad about other people here so lets not run off a good capper over some BS that does not matter to you or I. GLTA
Freeze,you are absolutely right. People must post honestly....about %s, lines, etc.
However, to accuse someone of purposely being deceitful because there's a mistake on one thread is out of line. You've got access to an archive of his threads. Why don't you check a half dozen of so of his threads and see if there is a pattern of bad math before you go off impuning someone's integrity......
However, to accuse someone of purposely being deceitful because there's a mistake on one thread is out of line. You've got access to an archive of his threads. Why don't you check a half dozen of so of his threads and see if there is a pattern of bad math before you go off impuning someone's integrity......
Dr. Freeze - Are you referring to Thunders plays from his Friday post? If so, it appears that there were 28 plays, all at various per-centages, with a big 10% win with UCLA and several 1/2 time plays. 28 bets by my count...
I for one like the stlye of money management using a percentage of your bank-roll. Automatically increases you bet as your bank-roll gets higher, so if you get on a roll you benefit even more...and vice-versa...smaller bets if your bank is down...
Thunder has been posting many winners here for a while, and I always like his thoughts on the games and his picks are usually excellent...
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I for one like the stlye of money management using a percentage of your bank-roll. Automatically increases you bet as your bank-roll gets higher, so if you get on a roll you benefit even more...and vice-versa...smaller bets if your bank is down...
Thunder has been posting many winners here for a while, and I always like his thoughts on the games and his picks are usually excellent...
T2
if you post a record on here, you better make sure you do not mess up......if you are consistently posting a winning record, you are playing with other people's money.....
my numbers are right.....go check them....his are not......
early success and your bankroll increases......yes....but htis is not the case here.......if that indeed is what he does, than his day will be less than 9.6%......because he started out slowly.....
i just want to protect the integrity of the site and people should be happy for that........if you keep a record you better make sure it is 100% accurate all the time......money is at stake.....
my numbers are right.....go check them....his are not......
early success and your bankroll increases......yes....but htis is not the case here.......if that indeed is what he does, than his day will be less than 9.6%......because he started out slowly.....
i just want to protect the integrity of the site and people should be happy for that........if you keep a record you better make sure it is 100% accurate all the time......money is at stake.....
Protect the integrity of the site?? Isn't that Jack's job? Jack has been very good at keeping this site as friendly and informative as any one person can. He doesn't allow this bashing to go on here. And why is it everyone wants to pick on the guys who actually have wiinig picks (ie Fletcher numerous times, Raymond just this week and now Thunder). If you think he inflates his number and don't think he is that good then don't use his information. It is possible he made a mistake in his calculations, I mean after someone who is self-proclaimed to be pretty good with numbers retracted his calculations of +.8% after even he made a mistake. Guys please, Madjack's is not about this. If you think he made a mistake ask him about it but don't dare question his character or intentions when he is doing nothing but being helpful by posting his picks to begin with.
Jack thanks for the great site and guys remember this site has blossomed because of guys like Fletcher, Raymond, Thunder, Volfan, Cow, Hoops, JT Sneaks, and many others just like them.
Good Luck in all your plays today.
Jack thanks for the great site and guys remember this site has blossomed because of guys like Fletcher, Raymond, Thunder, Volfan, Cow, Hoops, JT Sneaks, and many others just like them.
Good Luck in all your plays today.
DR. FREEZE
DR. FREEZE
You are accusing him of being PURPOSELY deceitful without giving evidence of a pattern. If you want to accuse him of sloppiness, you might have a point.
Without more to offer, your post is still WAY out of line. Either find more evidence or admit you went too far.
DR. FREEZE
You are accusing him of being PURPOSELY deceitful without giving evidence of a pattern. If you want to accuse him of sloppiness, you might have a point.
Without more to offer, your post is still WAY out of line. Either find more evidence or admit you went too far.
yeah Jack is supposed to go through here and add up numbers all day......
i am upset about these miscalculations and no i didn't go to far....i missed the UCLA game because it was hidden in text......
yes i am concerned about misleading people......i will go through and find more stuff........
i am upset about these miscalculations and no i didn't go to far....i missed the UCLA game because it was hidden in text......
yes i am concerned about misleading people......i will go through and find more stuff........
here is Thursday's post:
Bama 6% LOSE -6.6
Marq 6% LOSE -6.6
Valpo 3% LOSE -3.3
Miami 3% LOSE -3.3
Kent 2% WIN +2
Pep 5% ML LOSE -5
Ohio State 5% LOSE -5.5
Ohio State OVER 2% LOSE -2.2
BAMA -11 2nd half 3% LOSE -3.3
Adding this up.......-33.6%
Thunder's report on friday -17%
2 days in a row of this......do i need to do more?????
Bama 6% LOSE -6.6
Marq 6% LOSE -6.6
Valpo 3% LOSE -3.3
Miami 3% LOSE -3.3
Kent 2% WIN +2
Pep 5% ML LOSE -5
Ohio State 5% LOSE -5.5
Ohio State OVER 2% LOSE -2.2
BAMA -11 2nd half 3% LOSE -3.3
Adding this up.......-33.6%
Thunder's report on friday -17%
2 days in a row of this......do i need to do more?????
FYI.......checking info and exposing it is not "bashing" anyone.....if you are going to trust everyone and be a gambler, you are going to lose money.....if you are skeptical, your chances for success will increase drastically
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