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Not that he needs me to defend him, but..........
I have talked (posted) many many times with Freeze and can tell you that he IS NOT jealous of any good cappers and is not just looking to bash anyone becasuse their doing well.
Freeze is precise, thourough and willing to speak his mind. He saw what he thought were mistakes that could lead someone to blindly put down wagers based on winning percentages that may have been too high.
I think we all agree that Thunders percentages are very good without any mistakes, and he is in fact helping many people. Freeze only was striving for more accuracy.
here I am still talking about this, but I just wanted to say that as far as I'm concerned Freeze really only had good intentions.
No lets all stop bashing one another, AND LETS MAKE SOME MONEY!!!!
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:thefinger :thefinger The Book
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I have talked (posted) many many times with Freeze and can tell you that he IS NOT jealous of any good cappers and is not just looking to bash anyone becasuse their doing well.
Freeze is precise, thourough and willing to speak his mind. He saw what he thought were mistakes that could lead someone to blindly put down wagers based on winning percentages that may have been too high.
I think we all agree that Thunders percentages are very good without any mistakes, and he is in fact helping many people. Freeze only was striving for more accuracy.
here I am still talking about this, but I just wanted to say that as far as I'm concerned Freeze really only had good intentions.
No lets all stop bashing one another, AND LETS MAKE SOME MONEY!!!!
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If you wanna bash someone...................
:thefinger :thefinger The Book
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okay lets demonize the messenger who brings the hard facts.....here are your plays from Friday.....
CConn +14.....5%.......L....-5.5
IlliChi +18......4%......W.....-1.5
OU..UNDER 137.5.....3%....W.....+1.5
Fla -9.....3%......L......-1.8%
NCState pick.....2%.....W.....+.2%
2nd half MichState UNDER.....3%.....L.....-3.1%
2ndhalf NCSTATE......3%......W.......-.1%
2ndhlaf CConn +8.5....4%....L......-4.5%
2ndhalf CConn UNDER 69....2%..L...-6.7%
2ndhalf Fla OVER.....5%.....W....-1.7%
Cal -3.5......5%........W......+3.3%
Hampton +12.5....5%......W.....+8.3%
SDSU +11.5......4%.......L.....+3.9%
Hawaii +3......3%......L.......+.6%
Hawaii OVER 133.5.....3%.....L......-2.7%
2hd half Hawaii +4......4%.....L......-7.1%
2nd half Hawaii OVER 73.5....3%...L....-10.4%
UConn UNDER82.....2%........W......-8.4%
UCLA +110.....8%.........W........+.4%
TTech........5%........L........-5.1%
Wisky.....4%.......W.....-1.1%
Texas....3%........W.....+1.9%
TTechOVER150.....3%.....L.....-1.2%
Murray State +8.5....2%....-3.4%
2nd half UCLA OVER......W......4%.....+.6%
TennTech.....3%......W......3.6%
La Tech....2%.......W.....+5.6%
UCLA......3%.......W.......+8.6%
What did I miss......I keep records for several people and am thinking about keeping Thunders because he can pick as evidenced by many.....I just expect accurate records to be kept.....thankyou......
CConn +14.....5%.......L....-5.5
IlliChi +18......4%......W.....-1.5
OU..UNDER 137.5.....3%....W.....+1.5
Fla -9.....3%......L......-1.8%
NCState pick.....2%.....W.....+.2%
2nd half MichState UNDER.....3%.....L.....-3.1%
2ndhalf NCSTATE......3%......W.......-.1%
2ndhlaf CConn +8.5....4%....L......-4.5%
2ndhalf CConn UNDER 69....2%..L...-6.7%
2ndhalf Fla OVER.....5%.....W....-1.7%
Cal -3.5......5%........W......+3.3%
Hampton +12.5....5%......W.....+8.3%
SDSU +11.5......4%.......L.....+3.9%
Hawaii +3......3%......L.......+.6%
Hawaii OVER 133.5.....3%.....L......-2.7%
2hd half Hawaii +4......4%.....L......-7.1%
2nd half Hawaii OVER 73.5....3%...L....-10.4%
UConn UNDER82.....2%........W......-8.4%
UCLA +110.....8%.........W........+.4%
TTech........5%........L........-5.1%
Wisky.....4%.......W.....-1.1%
Texas....3%........W.....+1.9%
TTechOVER150.....3%.....L.....-1.2%
Murray State +8.5....2%....-3.4%
2nd half UCLA OVER......W......4%.....+.6%
TennTech.....3%......W......3.6%
La Tech....2%.......W.....+5.6%
UCLA......3%.......W.......+8.6%
What did I miss......I keep records for several people and am thinking about keeping Thunders because he can pick as evidenced by many.....I just expect accurate records to be kept.....thankyou......
Here's an idea. Freeze will be the accountant and Thunder just keep bringing the winners! GLA and HF
kingjc....i would move on but am constantly under attack hence i must defend myself.....i said i had data, my data was attacked, so i provdided my data....hard to argue with it now huh?......only thing that can now be done is to hurl insults my way and demean me......happens all the time when one presents the truth.....if anyone is being bashed on here, it is me!!!!!!
if you want to have misinformation in your resources, then so be it.......i check reliability of all my resources.....is that a bad thing?
if you want to have misinformation in your resources, then so be it.......i check reliability of all my resources.....is that a bad thing?
Dr you pick you fights with the wrong folks. Thunder's one of the good guys. Slam me some more you like to do that. You defend some as if there God. I don't get it.
actually, you can ask any of the guys who you have gone after DJV and i spoke many of the same things you did but they know what i think and i trust that they do not need to be reminded....
Keep on raining down the winners THUNDER. You are one of the good ones along with KC, Loophole, Volfan and some others I missed. This tourney has been tough though so far. From what I can gather the first 2 days, most games in which there was a consensus of good cappers, the opposite hit. Examples: Pepperdine, Alabama, Valpo, Okla State, Penn, Michigan State, and Hawaii. I had quite a few guys on most of these and all lost. I liked them myself which is probably why I have been getting spanked the first 2 days of this tournament.
Isn't it rather hypocritical of you Dr Freeze to be harping on this issue when you called someone out for being a obsessive compulsive in the closed hoops thread? If it's that important to you then start a seperate thread and stop cluttering up Thunder's plays thread so we can check his plays and if we care about your accounting then we will check yours. Thank you very much.
i already said that.....DJV has been after Hoops for the same reason for months now...i said much of what DJV said at one time but have since let it go since it is a dead issue now IMO......i called out a guy who has been off by over 10% 2 consecutive days now......if you want ignorance to reign supreme at this site keep defending inaccuracy and trying to bring me down.....
everyone do their best to call me scum......lets see if there are any more names you can think of to call me for pointing out the truth.......
beating the book is fun to me......gambling and losing is not......losing comes from bad information....winning begins with doing your homework, having credible resources, and going from there.....i try to rectify gross inaccuracies, and i am demonized.....
should have figured.....
everyone do their best to call me scum......lets see if there are any more names you can think of to call me for pointing out the truth.......
beating the book is fun to me......gambling and losing is not......losing comes from bad information....winning begins with doing your homework, having credible resources, and going from there.....i try to rectify gross inaccuracies, and i am demonized.....
should have figured.....
i don't post much (obvious) but i have followed this site for quite a while. if i recall correctly, THUNDER does not subtract juice from losses because he uses a progressive money management system in which he increases the bet size as the bankroll grows, thus negating the loss of juice that would show up using a flat rate system....as long as he keeps winning, this would hold true to some effect
nevertheless, THUNDER gives us many more winners than losers, and is VERY appreciated, hope this helps!
thanks again THUNDER!
keep the W's coming!!!
nevertheless, THUNDER gives us many more winners than losers, and is VERY appreciated, hope this helps!
thanks again THUNDER!
keep the W's coming!!!
Like Oregon even more now that I see your on them thanks Really like Montana St +9 any thoughts?
Really like Montana St +9 any thoughts?Thunder I did not want to do this in your thread, Sorry. My good
Dr. I don't believe you have what DJV was say peed-off about. You and many still think it's about a play if 1 or 2 or what ever stars it is. I don't much care. However when I first asked that question 2.5 months ago. I received no answer. So I asked again. Then we start to have more then one pick once every 6 or 7th day. So I thought maybe things are differant. I asked got shot at from 6/7 folks for how dare you ask Hoops anything. Now in last week were seeing a increase again. So I asked and everyone goes nuts again. I put the chit on Hoops for going against my Bagers. By the way something everyone does here every day, Stick up for your home team. I get the same how dare you ask Hoops anything. Screw that I'll ask if I like. But this is not what even pissed be off in the first place. It was after a couple of years of, Ah forget it not worth my time. Sorry Thunder again. DR some day I will explain. I don't think half here have got it right yet.
Dr. I don't believe you have what DJV was say peed-off about. You and many still think it's about a play if 1 or 2 or what ever stars it is. I don't much care. However when I first asked that question 2.5 months ago. I received no answer. So I asked again. Then we start to have more then one pick once every 6 or 7th day. So I thought maybe things are differant. I asked got shot at from 6/7 folks for how dare you ask Hoops anything. Now in last week were seeing a increase again. So I asked and everyone goes nuts again. I put the chit on Hoops for going against my Bagers. By the way something everyone does here every day, Stick up for your home team. I get the same how dare you ask Hoops anything. Screw that I'll ask if I like. But this is not what even pissed be off in the first place. It was after a couple of years of, Ah forget it not worth my time. Sorry Thunder again. DR some day I will explain. I don't think half here have got it right yet.
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wow you guys are still going at it. jello you are accurate in how i play. kent state took it to bama. indiana over 126 3%. i play progressive freeze your accounting is correct if i played a set amount per unit . people who fpllow my plays now i play progressivly. 3% might be 700 one day and 950 the next. again i will say this once more no one is calling you anything. if i am up 100% that does nmean i am up only twice my original bankroll it is alot more than that. now to play the way i do incurs risk. but i win consistently. gl freeze i hope you win 1000 units and if you make any mistakes along the way i promise not to notice
actually if i make a mistake i hope people point it out to me.....
thanks for clearing this up....lets drop it......would be nice if you could just go by straight numbers though.....easier to understand for those of us who follow you....thanks and good luck i hope you win 1000%
thanks for clearing this up....lets drop it......would be nice if you could just go by straight numbers though.....easier to understand for those of us who follow you....thanks and good luck i hope you win 1000%
Thunder
If you don't mind could you please explain the system you use. I would really like to see it. It will probably be helpful to me. Thanks for all the hard work and winners.
If you don't mind could you please explain the system you use. I would really like to see it. It will probably be helpful to me. Thanks for all the hard work and winners.
