saturday ncaa basketball: mac / horizon / others ....

gman2

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ball state cardinals (+6)
kent state 1st half (-3.5)

HORIZON
big -- wisconsin-milwaukee panthers (-24.5)
big -- cleveland state vikings over 137

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maryland terrapins (+3)

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** ball state **
bgfalcon probably put it best, and perhaps most succinctly: buffalo just is not tough enough to live up to their preseason expectations. theyve proven to be a mediocre chalk at best this season. for all the hype about the bulls, they STILL have not had a dominant home win this year vs. anyone of substance (not counting fairleigh dickinson and colgate and scrubs like that). actually, for some strange reason, theyve actually played very well on the road this year. to me, this game is a complete tossup. both teams can score in bunches and theres all kinds of athletes on both sides. but buffalo has given me no reason to think theyre worthy of laying anything, let alone 6 pts, at home this season.
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** kent state 1st half **
both teams coming off games vs. their biggest rival. kent nipped akron in a low-scoring but well-played game. bg lost to toledo in a low-scoring, sloppy basketball game. bg has really plummeted back down to earth, which was expected. theyve been lame on the road the last month and its gonna be awfully tough for them to get consistent offense against a kent team that has the best home court edge in the conference and has held 4 of their L5 opponents to under 66 pts. flashes have struggled on the road this season, but its the same ol' same ol' at the maac center ---theyre dominating teams. flashes have made me a ton of money in the 1st half at home (not just this year but for pretty much the last 3 or 4 years). they start fast and look to throw an early knockout blow. falcons have struggled in the first half of a lot of their games lately but have pulled games out after authoring some 2nd half magic at home. but if they fall behind kent early on the road, they are done..period.
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** wisconsin-milwaukee **
would definitely advise not being scared away from laying the chalk in this one. think the game is gonna be an absolute bloodbath for ysu. playing uwm on the 2nd leg of the "2-gms in 3 days" road is about the worst thing possible for the penguins. panthers were flat against loyola the other night, so its unlikely theyre gonna be going through the motions saturday night. and i think the fact that ysu covered the 22 pts against uic (losing by 6) actually works against them here, because they expended a lot of energy and came up 6 pts short on the road in chicago. if they were gonna lose, they were almost better of getting blown out so they would have some chance of being fresh in milwaukee. ysu has ONE guy that is good and thats quin humphrey....and he played all 40 minutes against uic the other night. theyre not a deep team and if he is off his game, its gonna get real ugly. ysu pulled a rabbit out of their ass against uic the other night by staying close. but its gonna take a herculean effort to be competitive in this basketball game saturday evening.
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** uic/cleveland state over 137 **
very, very tempted to play the vikings here, but i think the over is the better play. csu has been forced to play halfcourt basketball the last two games against detroit and butler. uic plays good defense at home, but their defense stays in chicago. i think theyre gonna get out and look to run, and csu will happily oblige, as thats far more their style. cedrick banks has had some big games against csu over the course of his career. ive always found it tough to play an under in the horizon on a saturday game after both teams have played on thursday night. the defensive intensity is rarely there.
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** maryland **
im actually really surprised duke is laying points here. figured maryland would open up at -2 or -2.5. terps are the one acc team that doesnt fear duke. theyve gone toe to toe with the devils for about 4 years now. the setup for this game is perfect. duke is coming off their biggest game of the season, and a game where the intensity level was at an all-time high. now they travel to maryland... where the terps have been home and waiting, and its maryland's biggest game of the year so far. its not that im expecting a duke 'letdown' per se, but its gonna be almost impossible for them to match maryland's intensity saturday night. interesting to note that this is the first time in four years that duke is playing a ROAD game after either of the carolina matchups. theyve frequently played a (cupcake) game with clemson in cameron after a matchup with the heels. i was adamant about a duke play the other night. im just as adamant about a maryland play on saturday.
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Gman,

Why do you like the terps? Do you really think they can hang. Believe me, I hate taking road favs - last one I took was UNC when they played FSU. However, I really like Duke in this spot. I doubt the Terps cover, but then again anything can cappen in NCAAB.

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kneifl said:
Gman,

Why do you like the terps? Do you really think they can hang. Believe me, I hate taking road favs - last one I took was UNC when they played FSU. However, I really like Duke in this spot. I doubt the Terps cover, but then again anything can cappen in NCAAB.

kneifl


I can't speak for g, but I'm guessing it's just his feeling, and the fact Duke just beat UNC, maybe a letdown vs a somewhat inferior opponent is in order, least that's my line of reasoning, not one to bet much on the hyped up espn games but I figure that's what he and others might be thinking

Mike
 

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Gman laying 24 and a hook! That must be strong.
GL How ya been? I'me looking at Cleve St. at pickem. Any thoughts?
 

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I was very much impressed with Kents defensive intensity thursday night, especially from the guards. Dru was shut down ( no biggie there) but Bubba did not get an open look all night wnd thats the first time I've seen that out of a defense,. The Flashes should own the middle vs.BG as Gerwigs health and minutes are on the rise.The only question for me is do the flashes bring it right back on short rest after very hard fought effort vs. their biggest rival ?


Think you are on the right side here, I'll tail along for a slice.
 
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How about the Central Michigan under train you've been riding Spang (that was you right??) See they have a 147 total at Pinnacle vs. EMU .... don't know the conference like you guys, but considering CMU's struggle to score lately (thanks Spang for that info) under seems the way to go .... good luck on Saturday!!
 

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I think kickserv will take a shot with Maryland....

(as long as my mom says it's ok)

oh and good luck with the rest of your picks!!
 

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Don't know if I've ever seen you lay that kind of chalk. I might have to tail since it's a special occasion :)

Think the Ball State play makes a lot of sense. Best of luck today.
 

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toto:

to specifically answer that cleveland state question, i do think its cleveland state or nothin tonight. right now theyre playing such confident basketball that i dont think a letdown from the butler game will be an issue. doesnt seem like a big win for csu the other night, but it was the first time they won in indy.....ever. and they took some bad losses there along the way. that was on the heels of their comeback against detroit. and theyve just played really well at home lately. for a team that doesnt draw well, theyre expected to have a solid crowd tonight and i think thats gonna help them. i havent checked on how the line has moved, but at a pick'em, i still think its vikings or nothin. aside from the uwgb effort a week ago, they have been the best team in the horizon the last month. think this is a higher-scoring game that csu pulls out in the end.

blackman:

im not sure if all my chalks combined this season to lay 25, lol. but i am dead set on uwm beating the piss outta youngstown tonight.
 

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Gman - Watch out for the Cardinals - havnt been playing well of late with two home losses to Miami of Ohio and lowly Marshall. They are a young team that can shoot the lights out when their on. P Stovall will be the best player in the MAC when his career is over--Anyways they have never been a good road team - although they did beat W. Mich. on the road not to long ago.

I went to B.S.U so I know alot about the team - Im staying away - but just be careful.

GL
 

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phelps:

im just not sold on uwgb. theyre a team thats overachieved this year and theyve had their share of clunkers over the last month. this loyola team is bad, yet they (inexplicably) dismantled uwgb in green bay by 21 a month ago. one thing that i do think plays in green bay's favor is that loyola is coming off a tough loss to milwaukee where they had a very realistic shot of pulling the upset. not sure if loyola left it all on the floor that night and how much they will have left today. but even with that, i still am not confident enough in green bay to lay money on them in chicago. can see this game going either way. phoenix SHOULD find a way to win the game but its anything but a slam dunk to me.
 

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gman,
I'm taking your advice and pounding over 136. If anyone is at the game, just ignore the balding middle-aged man in Section 113 cheering wildly when either team scores. That will be me.
 

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bgfalcon:

were you really there? lol. i only made it for the last minute of the first half and then caught the whole 2h. during a media timeout i was gonna yell "bg fallllllllcon" nice and loud to see if it would elicit a response from you (or some strange looks from others). i sat about 5 rows up on the side opposite the csu bench. if not for the ridiculous first 6:00 of the 2nd half (where there were 3 total points) the total wouldnt even have been a sweat. way too many fouls called in that damn game. no continuity.
 

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glad you guys got that over :mj14:

hate to see you on the news :scared
 
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