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Roger: Sorry to see ya leave, I just started following you about 10 days ago. Hope all works out for you. GL tonight and always
 

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thanks rog; in the cleve total, over or under see u and o
 

MadJack

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it was edited out by one of the mods. he said he was leaving and insinuated he was going "pay". we are not going to let anybody use this forum for free advertising and/or to promote pay picks, period.
 

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On the lake. Setting hooks!
I was waitng on that. I have nothing against a person going pay. But it's amazing how many use this forum as a fishing pond. Granted they are decent handicappers to start. Then the praise follows by us. They see the bobber go down and they try to set the hook by saying they are leaving and going pay. Hoping a large flock follows. The problem is. Very few can produce once they get this mindset and attitude. It's the kiss of death for them. All of a sudden they can't pick apples. Much less games. I hope Jack dose not get mad at me by stating the truth. But Roger did go pay with Thunder and Raymond a couple years ago. They took alot of people including my brother down. HARD!. I'll admit I use a service. I use Fletchers which is advertised here on MadJacks. He knows what he's doing and has avoided the "kiss of death" by going pay. As far as Roger is concerned. I've made good money following him this season. Thanks to him. But I will fade his plays tyonight. The "kiss of death" is strong.


SMOKE
 

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i'm not going to let people come to this forum, get hot, go pay and make money off the unsuspecting.

on www.bestbettor.com

records don't lie:

this week:
1 ROGER 10-4-0 71% 2,409.03

the last few years:
ROGER 7146-6977-427 51% -205,102.82
 

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MadJack said:
i'm not going to let people come to this forum, get hot, go pay and make money off the unsuspecting.
Damn...Im 10-1 last 11 in NCAA and was thinking of getting ready to go pay Jack moon1 moon1
I hear ya on this one Jack and thats why I respect you and this forum so much. Life will go on
 

MadJack

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this site was created way back when and was created for people to come to and make posts to help each other win WITHOUT having to use a pay service.

a place where people would come to share information for FREE.

so many come for their own agendas and it's getting ridiculous.

guys, you don't have to pay money to lose....i mean win :)

share info and win for free.

listen to smoke. he ain't bullsshittin!
 

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Nothing against Roger but this SITE was built on FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. The effort Jack and I.E. put into building and making this forum what it is, is second to none. Plus the negative feedback that usually follows when these situations occur every year.

All i can say is someone will be crying the blues soon. But no need to bitch here look in the freakn mirror.

All I can say about pay is, if your so great at cappn ALL the TIME not one day,week,month or year. Why would u need clients? Your plays should pay for themselves? Maybe because this shit is not so dam easy as most think. It is a chore to plug along night in and night out and winning consistently. But most will never ever learn. U gotta get hooked and took once before u learn.

Now I wish him the best in his endeavor but like 99.9% before I am sure we will see this poster again.

GL TO ALL!!!
 
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hammer1

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If there is such a thing as a winning sports service

If there is such a thing as a winning sports service

please e mail me so i can retire and stop doing this myself..........money is no object. I had a similar experience as Roger. Posted on a site still around fer a year with an incredble record. over 80 % winners one January..no losing weeks untill NFL started..but when i went bad i lost every client that i had built up over almost a 2 year run.........Down to zero clients in 3 weeks. I took with me over 50 people from the site
though and at $500/month i set myself up fer life.
So give it a shot is all i can say.
 

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I've talked to Roger on the phone before a couple of years back....

He's really quite a nice guy. However, saying that let me tell you something Roger - your going pay is "BULLSHIT". I could realy care less, I don't play much hoops anymore and totals just aint fun for me, I prefer sides. I made the mistake of going pay back in 2000-2001 after an incredible couple of months. People get pissed off when you lose, which we all lose... I lost some and your bestbettor record indicates you lost some too. Look at gman, thunder, raymond, steelcityselections, etc. Do you really want to make the same mistake twice? Go ahead people will start to hate you....

kneifl
 

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SMOKE JENSEN said:
I was waitng on that. I have nothing against a person going pay. But it's amazing how many use this forum as a fishing pond. Granted they are decent handicappers to start. Then the praise follows by us. They see the bobber go down and they try to set the hook by saying they are leaving and going pay. Hoping a large flock follows. The problem is. Very few can produce once they get this mindset and attitude. It's the kiss of death for them. All of a sudden they can't pick apples. Much less games. I hope Jack dose not get mad at me by stating the truth. But Roger did go pay with Thunder and Raymond a couple years ago. They took alot of people including my brother down. HARD!. I'll admit I use a service. I use Fletchers which is advertised here on MadJacks. He knows what he's doing and has avoided the "kiss of death" by going pay. As far as Roger is concerned. I've made good money following him this season. Thanks to him. But I will fade his plays tyonight. The "kiss of death" is strong.


SMOKE

Damn....wish I faded him. Woulda been looking at 3-1 most likely
 

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My take..Roger probably is decent guy..but If some one would please pay for his picks ging forward andost them as fades that person who did so would be next in line to start a pay service..trust me roger, you are doomed
 
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