I believe it was around this time last year that my usual sportsbook (betonsports.com) posted season W/L totals for college football teams for the upcoming year. They are not posted there yet so I was wondering if any of you have seen them posted on another sportsbook. Thanks in advance.
Season W/L Totals
- Thread starter cameroncrazie
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This is what I Have
This is what I Have
BYU Over 8.5 (Even)
Under 8.5 (-130)
Colorado Over 8.5 (-130)
Under 8.5 (Even)
Florida Over 9.5 (+160)
Under 9.5 (-200)
Florida State ** Over 11 (-115)
Under 11 (-115)
Georgia Over 8.5 (-150)
Under 8.5 (+120)
Illinois Over 7 (+120)
Under 7 (-150)
LSU Over 7.5 (-160)
Under 7.5 (+130)
Louisville Over 9 (-145)
Under 9 (+115)
Maryland ** Over 8 (-155)
Under 8 (+125)
Miami Florida Over 10 (+130)
Under 10 (-160)
Michigan Over 8.5 (-200)
Under 8.5 (+160)
Nebraska ** Over 10.5 (+170)
Under 10.5 (-220)
Notre Dame Over 7.5 (+140)
Under 7.5 (-180)
Ohio State ** Over 10 (Even)
Under 10 (-130)
Oklahoma Over 10.5 (+130)
Under 10.5 (-160)
Oregon Over 9 (+140)
Under 9 (-180)
Tennessee Over 10 (+115)
Under 10 (-145)
Texas Over 10 (-115)
Under 10 (-115)
Texas A&M Over 8.5 (-130)
Under 8.5 (Even)
UCLA Over 7 (-160)
Under 7 (+130)
UNLV Over 6 (-115)
Under 6 (-115)
USC Over 7.5 (+120)
Under 7.5 (-150)
Virginia Tech ** Over 9.5 (-130)
Under 9.5 (Even)
Wash State Over 8.5 (-115)
Under 8.5 (-115)
Washington Over 8.5 (+120)
Under 8.5 (-150)
** MeaNS THEY MUST PLAYY 13 GAMES
aLL OTHERS 12 GAMES
This is what I Have
BYU Over 8.5 (Even)
Under 8.5 (-130)
Colorado Over 8.5 (-130)
Under 8.5 (Even)
Florida Over 9.5 (+160)
Under 9.5 (-200)
Florida State ** Over 11 (-115)
Under 11 (-115)
Georgia Over 8.5 (-150)
Under 8.5 (+120)
Illinois Over 7 (+120)
Under 7 (-150)
LSU Over 7.5 (-160)
Under 7.5 (+130)
Louisville Over 9 (-145)
Under 9 (+115)
Maryland ** Over 8 (-155)
Under 8 (+125)
Miami Florida Over 10 (+130)
Under 10 (-160)
Michigan Over 8.5 (-200)
Under 8.5 (+160)
Nebraska ** Over 10.5 (+170)
Under 10.5 (-220)
Notre Dame Over 7.5 (+140)
Under 7.5 (-180)
Ohio State ** Over 10 (Even)
Under 10 (-130)
Oklahoma Over 10.5 (+130)
Under 10.5 (-160)
Oregon Over 9 (+140)
Under 9 (-180)
Tennessee Over 10 (+115)
Under 10 (-145)
Texas Over 10 (-115)
Under 10 (-115)
Texas A&M Over 8.5 (-130)
Under 8.5 (Even)
UCLA Over 7 (-160)
Under 7 (+130)
UNLV Over 6 (-115)
Under 6 (-115)
USC Over 7.5 (+120)
Under 7.5 (-150)
Virginia Tech ** Over 9.5 (-130)
Under 9.5 (Even)
Wash State Over 8.5 (-115)
Under 8.5 (-115)
Washington Over 8.5 (+120)
Under 8.5 (-150)
** MeaNS THEY MUST PLAYY 13 GAMES
aLL OTHERS 12 GAMES
I love Florida St over 11 games...they will go undefeated...thinking of putting about 5 dimes on that...
Best ones I see so far and I will give reasoning later:
Colorado under 8.5
Nebraska under 10.5
Maryland under 8
Ohio State under 10
Texas over 10
Washington over 8.5
That Miami line is kinda curious. Guess vegas thinks they will lose 2 of 3 vs. Tenn, FSU and Fla
Colorado under 8.5
Nebraska under 10.5
Maryland under 8
Ohio State under 10
Texas over 10
Washington over 8.5
That Miami line is kinda curious. Guess vegas thinks they will lose 2 of 3 vs. Tenn, FSU and Fla
Colorado under 8.5
Reason #1, check out their schedule. These games are all very losable:
Colorado State (Neutral Site)
USC (Home)
UCLA (Road)
Kansas State (Home)
Texas Tech (Home)
Oklahoma (Road)
Nebraska (Road)
With 4 of their toughest 7 games away from home, Even National Championship caliber teams will struggle. Keep in mind this with the Buffs:
QB Craig Ochs while experienced, is returning from injury. Also has career TD Int Ratio of 14/13. Playing Texas Tech and Oklahoma late in the season is going to be tough.
The Buffs also need to replace 26 seniors from last years Big 12 championship squad. The Offensive does not figure to be nearly as dominant as last years edition. Terrible Secondary that will have to hide its weaknesses. Defense that allowed an average of 37 ppg over it's last 3 games did nothing to improve itself . OH yeah they will be breaking in a new place kicker to boot. You can also count these guys in for losing at least 1 game that they should not. Colorado has been known for that over the last decade. CU will also be without Roman Hollowell whom was the nations leading punt returner last year with an avg of 18 yds and 2 TD to give them field position.
Nebraska under 10.5
I have really done a good job of breaking down the Husker strengths and weakness for you guys. Let us take a look at their schedule's potential pitfalls:
@Penn State
@Iowa State
@Oklahoma State
@TExas A&M
Texas (Home)
@Kansas State
Colorado
One glaring difference in this years and last year's sched is that most of the Huskers tough games are on the road unlike last season. Penn State will be the first road game for QB Jamaal Lord and that never summons success. Iowa State has played Nebraska tough the last few seasons and did beat them in 1992 in AAmes. Oklahoma State is rapidly improving under Les Miles and the last time Nebraska played Oklahoma State they needed a goal line stand to preserve the game on the final play. The Huskers will be severely overmatched in terms of speed and athleticism vs. Texas (but what team won't this year?) Nebraska has not won on the road at Kansas State since 1996. The last time Nebraska went to Kyle Field with a first year QB they lost 21-14. Colorado presents a tough home game. Nebraska could find their way into the Big 12 title game but that would just mean another game vs. Texas or Oklahoma. This is not going to be one of the better Husker teams we have seen in ahwile and winning 11 games would be a major miracle for this squad.
Maryland under 8
Let us look at their tougher games:
Notre Dame (neutral)
Florida State (home)
West Va (away)
Georgia Tech (home)
N. Carolina (away)
NC State (home)
Clemson (away)
Virginia (away)
Very tough schedule with 8 very losable games 4 being away and 1 being at home with Florida State---Ouch. One saving grace is that they do play 13 regular season games meaning that if they can survive with 7 wins and garner a bowl victory that would be a push. While they do return 15 starters one of them is not a QB and they received a crushing blow when designated starter Chris Kelley tore up his knee this spring. The Terps have major issues along the defensive line and linebacker. Several true freshman will be backups. The offense while it will try to be wide-open does not have a game breaker other than Bruce Perry. One bright spot is that the Offensive line returns 4 starters to help pave the way for Perry. It just looks like too tall a task for this team to win 9 games this year.
Ohio State under 10
I really am having a hrd time figuring out why this team is so highly regarded coming into this year after yet another Outback bowl loss to S. Carolina among other things. They have no answer at QB, no proven running back and an offensive line that may not be up to snuff to what you are used to seeing Ohio State put out. Add to the fact that Jim Tressel has the creativity of an episode of the Tony Danza show and you see why I think they are hard pressed to win 10 games. Also check that schedule.
Texas Tech (home) don't know why they are favored by so much over a veteran team with similar talent.
Washington State (home)
Cincinnatti (road)
Wisconsin (road)
Penn State (home)
Purdue (road)
Illinois (road)
Michigan (home)
That is 8 very losable games. I can't see them having an advantage home or not over Wazzu with no experience at QB or RB and similar defenses. Texas Tech has potential Heisman Canidate Kingsbury to terrorize their secondary. The last time a team went through the Big 10 unscathed was in 1997 and this team is nowhere near as talented or well-coached as that Michigan Squad.
Texas over 10
Chrisssy Simms or not this team is loaded. 16 returning starters is a nice thing to have too. Their offense will run circles around everyone on that schedule but Oklahoma, and their defense will be more athletic than any offense they face this year. So what can keep them from winning 10 games? Mack Brown. OK, he may be good for one loss somehow, but this team is ultra-talented, has a somewhat friendly schedule and no more QB controversy messign up the chemistry. Let us look at the schedule:
1. It does not hurt that the Horns are slated to play 12 regular season games, and have a potential date in the Big 12 title game.
Toughest games
North Carolina (home)
Oklahoma (netural)
Kansas State (road)
Nebraska (road)
Texas Tech (road)
Texas A&M (home)
Texas catches a major break, in that they get Nebraska and Kansas State in down years on the road. (don't get too hyped up hat KSU has beaten Texas both times in conference play since the Big 12 was born). North Carolina is a very winnable game at home. Texas Tech could be a bit dicey and the Oklahoma game will be an all out war. At worst, Texas loses 2 of those games and is 10-2 playing a lesser bowl opponent.
Washington over 8.5
15 returning Starters including a very saavy QB. They also have a very reliable kicker in John Anderson who can really help them in a lot of close battles they figure to be in this year. Their punter should help a defense that is a little lacking. Derek McLaughlin averaged 41.2 yards and that was the best by a HUsky punter since 1986. The Husky Offense figures to be very potent and gave us a preview of 2002 in the Holiday Bowl. The Husky Special teams will also help this team through potential problems. The defensive line is lacking but that is not a major issue in the pass-oriented Pac 10. The November Sched will make or break them but Neuweasel always seems to weasel a win. Check out their sched:
@Michigan
@USC
UCLA (home)
Oregon State (home)
@Oregon
@Wazzu
What is a little menacing is that they close this season in this order:
UCLA
OREGON STATE
@Oregon
@WAzzu
4 potential losses, but they figure to split and flip a coin with the Michigan game. However they do play 12 regular season games and figure to get a bowl game.
This has been a brief overview of what I think these props will shake out like. I will probably put out a few more tidbits. Hope this has helped provide some insight.
Reason #1, check out their schedule. These games are all very losable:
Colorado State (Neutral Site)
USC (Home)
UCLA (Road)
Kansas State (Home)
Texas Tech (Home)
Oklahoma (Road)
Nebraska (Road)
With 4 of their toughest 7 games away from home, Even National Championship caliber teams will struggle. Keep in mind this with the Buffs:
QB Craig Ochs while experienced, is returning from injury. Also has career TD Int Ratio of 14/13. Playing Texas Tech and Oklahoma late in the season is going to be tough.
The Buffs also need to replace 26 seniors from last years Big 12 championship squad. The Offensive does not figure to be nearly as dominant as last years edition. Terrible Secondary that will have to hide its weaknesses. Defense that allowed an average of 37 ppg over it's last 3 games did nothing to improve itself . OH yeah they will be breaking in a new place kicker to boot. You can also count these guys in for losing at least 1 game that they should not. Colorado has been known for that over the last decade. CU will also be without Roman Hollowell whom was the nations leading punt returner last year with an avg of 18 yds and 2 TD to give them field position.
Nebraska under 10.5
I have really done a good job of breaking down the Husker strengths and weakness for you guys. Let us take a look at their schedule's potential pitfalls:
@Penn State
@Iowa State
@Oklahoma State
@TExas A&M
Texas (Home)
@Kansas State
Colorado
One glaring difference in this years and last year's sched is that most of the Huskers tough games are on the road unlike last season. Penn State will be the first road game for QB Jamaal Lord and that never summons success. Iowa State has played Nebraska tough the last few seasons and did beat them in 1992 in AAmes. Oklahoma State is rapidly improving under Les Miles and the last time Nebraska played Oklahoma State they needed a goal line stand to preserve the game on the final play. The Huskers will be severely overmatched in terms of speed and athleticism vs. Texas (but what team won't this year?) Nebraska has not won on the road at Kansas State since 1996. The last time Nebraska went to Kyle Field with a first year QB they lost 21-14. Colorado presents a tough home game. Nebraska could find their way into the Big 12 title game but that would just mean another game vs. Texas or Oklahoma. This is not going to be one of the better Husker teams we have seen in ahwile and winning 11 games would be a major miracle for this squad.
Maryland under 8
Let us look at their tougher games:
Notre Dame (neutral)
Florida State (home)
West Va (away)
Georgia Tech (home)
N. Carolina (away)
NC State (home)
Clemson (away)
Virginia (away)
Very tough schedule with 8 very losable games 4 being away and 1 being at home with Florida State---Ouch. One saving grace is that they do play 13 regular season games meaning that if they can survive with 7 wins and garner a bowl victory that would be a push. While they do return 15 starters one of them is not a QB and they received a crushing blow when designated starter Chris Kelley tore up his knee this spring. The Terps have major issues along the defensive line and linebacker. Several true freshman will be backups. The offense while it will try to be wide-open does not have a game breaker other than Bruce Perry. One bright spot is that the Offensive line returns 4 starters to help pave the way for Perry. It just looks like too tall a task for this team to win 9 games this year.
Ohio State under 10
I really am having a hrd time figuring out why this team is so highly regarded coming into this year after yet another Outback bowl loss to S. Carolina among other things. They have no answer at QB, no proven running back and an offensive line that may not be up to snuff to what you are used to seeing Ohio State put out. Add to the fact that Jim Tressel has the creativity of an episode of the Tony Danza show and you see why I think they are hard pressed to win 10 games. Also check that schedule.
Texas Tech (home) don't know why they are favored by so much over a veteran team with similar talent.
Washington State (home)
Cincinnatti (road)
Wisconsin (road)
Penn State (home)
Purdue (road)
Illinois (road)
Michigan (home)
That is 8 very losable games. I can't see them having an advantage home or not over Wazzu with no experience at QB or RB and similar defenses. Texas Tech has potential Heisman Canidate Kingsbury to terrorize their secondary. The last time a team went through the Big 10 unscathed was in 1997 and this team is nowhere near as talented or well-coached as that Michigan Squad.
Texas over 10
Chrisssy Simms or not this team is loaded. 16 returning starters is a nice thing to have too. Their offense will run circles around everyone on that schedule but Oklahoma, and their defense will be more athletic than any offense they face this year. So what can keep them from winning 10 games? Mack Brown. OK, he may be good for one loss somehow, but this team is ultra-talented, has a somewhat friendly schedule and no more QB controversy messign up the chemistry. Let us look at the schedule:
1. It does not hurt that the Horns are slated to play 12 regular season games, and have a potential date in the Big 12 title game.
Toughest games
North Carolina (home)
Oklahoma (netural)
Kansas State (road)
Nebraska (road)
Texas Tech (road)
Texas A&M (home)
Texas catches a major break, in that they get Nebraska and Kansas State in down years on the road. (don't get too hyped up hat KSU has beaten Texas both times in conference play since the Big 12 was born). North Carolina is a very winnable game at home. Texas Tech could be a bit dicey and the Oklahoma game will be an all out war. At worst, Texas loses 2 of those games and is 10-2 playing a lesser bowl opponent.
Washington over 8.5
15 returning Starters including a very saavy QB. They also have a very reliable kicker in John Anderson who can really help them in a lot of close battles they figure to be in this year. Their punter should help a defense that is a little lacking. Derek McLaughlin averaged 41.2 yards and that was the best by a HUsky punter since 1986. The Husky Offense figures to be very potent and gave us a preview of 2002 in the Holiday Bowl. The Husky Special teams will also help this team through potential problems. The defensive line is lacking but that is not a major issue in the pass-oriented Pac 10. The November Sched will make or break them but Neuweasel always seems to weasel a win. Check out their sched:
@Michigan
@USC
UCLA (home)
Oregon State (home)
@Oregon
@Wazzu
What is a little menacing is that they close this season in this order:
UCLA
OREGON STATE
@Oregon
@WAzzu
4 potential losses, but they figure to split and flip a coin with the Michigan game. However they do play 12 regular season games and figure to get a bowl game.
This has been a brief overview of what I think these props will shake out like. I will probably put out a few more tidbits. Hope this has helped provide some insight.
Ray,
?that?s some good stuff, man. Although I think that Colorado under 8.5, Maryland under 8, and Washington over 8.5 are dicey propositions at best, I will definitely look into Nebraska under 10.5, Ohio State under 10, and Texas over 10. You make some excellent points in all six games....
Here?s what I think about Tennessee?s season, as they have a MONSTER schedule. (?doing my best to be unbiased.)
Tennessee Over 10 (+115)
Under 10 (-145)
2002 SCHEDULE
Aug 31 vs Wyoming ? W ?an away game with Wyoming in Nashville. ?uhhhh, o-tay.
Sep 7 vs Middle Tenn. St. ? W Come back when you?re not still wet behind the ears. You?re in the Big Leagues now?.you might beat Vandy, but now that've you've come to Knoxville, you can go sit in the corner, little boy.
Sep 21 vs Florida ? ??getting ?em at home TY, but 2-5 L 7. 1-2 L 3 @ H. Last year, winning in the Swamp as a 17.5 dawg might put a little too much confidence in this bunch. Then again, maybe they got over the hump LY??? Zook sure ain?t ?tha ol? ball coach,? ya know?
Sep 28 vs Rutgers ? W ?a nice rest up for the Arkansas game. (?will be some real cheap tickets if you?ve never been to tha ?Big Orange? House.)
Oct 5 vs Arkansas ? W ?hurting this year. Lost a bunch of talent, didn?t have all that much to start with? Then what they?ve got left, gets in trouble with the law. Oh yeah, I almost forgot the slight problems between Houston Nutt, the AD and an unnamed basketball coach. Ark has only won 1 in L7?. But, Tenn has only covered in 2 of the L7; however, both were at home?.
Oct 12 at Georgia ? ??after a decade of domination, GA has taken the last 2 in this series?. Really don?t like catching this bunch of dawgs ?between the hedges.? They?re loaded with tons of talent, and now, finally, have a coach that knows what do do with it?. Better watch this bunch, guys. I sure won?t be fadin? them much this year?
Oct 26 vs Alabama ? ? Always a War? What else can you say? ?but ?bama has gone 0-fer-a-long-while vs Tenn?. Haven?t even covered ATS since ?96?. On the other hand, Bama might very well be the winner of the West Conf this year?. Too bad they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar?. Fran, what were you thinking?
Nov 2 at South Carolina ? W Don?t ever like catching Lou on the road, but overwhelming talent should carry the day?.
Nov 9 vs Miami Fla ? (Homecoming) ????????? ?Scheduling genius or scheduling idiot? Guess we won?t know until November 9, huh?
Nov 16 at Mississippi St. ? W ?but then again, I NEVER rule out Joe Lee Dunn. This guy is a defensive mastermind?. This team plays with very little talent, but Sherrill and the boyz get the maximum effort from every guy almost every year. They seem to excel every single year that they?re expected to be a bottom-feeder?. Tenn hasn?t visited this po-dunk town in a number of years?. Yeah, we know what a cowbell is, ya dumb hicks. (j/k, all ya guys from Miss St.)
Nov 23 at Vanderbilt ? W ?there are players on both teams that weren?t born the last time Vandy beat Tennessee?.as a matter of fact, there may be a coach or two that weren?t born.
Nov 30 vs Kentucky ?W ?almost damn near gave me a fuhkin? heart attack last year. Not going to happen two years in a row?. Going to be an ASS Whoopin? in K-Town, like the four games prior to LY.
BOWL GAME ? BCS? ?only the first 12 games will decide who they get in this last one?.
?although I could almost guarantee 8 wins, and maybe 9 if you counted on another consecutive win over Bama, here?s what?s left, 2 of the 4 at home (but for Christ?s sake they?re both from Florida):
Sep 21 vs Florida ? ?
Oct 12 at Georgia ? ?
Nov 9 vs Miami Fla ? (Homecoming) ?????????
BOWL GAME ? BCS?
?they?d have to take 2 of these 4. That?s assuming that they get by this group, 2 of these 3 at home:
Oct 5 vs Arkansas ? W
Oct 26 vs Alabama ? W
Nov 16 at Mississippi St. - W
While as a fan I hope that they do, I?m the kind of man that will pay to see them do it?. Going to have to lean toward the Under 10 (+115) here.
?keep up the great work fellas.
?that?s some good stuff, man. Although I think that Colorado under 8.5, Maryland under 8, and Washington over 8.5 are dicey propositions at best, I will definitely look into Nebraska under 10.5, Ohio State under 10, and Texas over 10. You make some excellent points in all six games....
Here?s what I think about Tennessee?s season, as they have a MONSTER schedule. (?doing my best to be unbiased.)
Tennessee Over 10 (+115)
Under 10 (-145)
2002 SCHEDULE
Aug 31 vs Wyoming ? W ?an away game with Wyoming in Nashville. ?uhhhh, o-tay.
Sep 7 vs Middle Tenn. St. ? W Come back when you?re not still wet behind the ears. You?re in the Big Leagues now?.you might beat Vandy, but now that've you've come to Knoxville, you can go sit in the corner, little boy.
Sep 21 vs Florida ? ??getting ?em at home TY, but 2-5 L 7. 1-2 L 3 @ H. Last year, winning in the Swamp as a 17.5 dawg might put a little too much confidence in this bunch. Then again, maybe they got over the hump LY??? Zook sure ain?t ?tha ol? ball coach,? ya know?
Sep 28 vs Rutgers ? W ?a nice rest up for the Arkansas game. (?will be some real cheap tickets if you?ve never been to tha ?Big Orange? House.)
Oct 5 vs Arkansas ? W ?hurting this year. Lost a bunch of talent, didn?t have all that much to start with? Then what they?ve got left, gets in trouble with the law. Oh yeah, I almost forgot the slight problems between Houston Nutt, the AD and an unnamed basketball coach. Ark has only won 1 in L7?. But, Tenn has only covered in 2 of the L7; however, both were at home?.
Oct 12 at Georgia ? ??after a decade of domination, GA has taken the last 2 in this series?. Really don?t like catching this bunch of dawgs ?between the hedges.? They?re loaded with tons of talent, and now, finally, have a coach that knows what do do with it?. Better watch this bunch, guys. I sure won?t be fadin? them much this year?
Oct 26 vs Alabama ? ? Always a War? What else can you say? ?but ?bama has gone 0-fer-a-long-while vs Tenn?. Haven?t even covered ATS since ?96?. On the other hand, Bama might very well be the winner of the West Conf this year?. Too bad they got caught with their hand in the cookie jar?. Fran, what were you thinking?
Nov 2 at South Carolina ? W Don?t ever like catching Lou on the road, but overwhelming talent should carry the day?.
Nov 9 vs Miami Fla ? (Homecoming) ????????? ?Scheduling genius or scheduling idiot? Guess we won?t know until November 9, huh?
Nov 16 at Mississippi St. ? W ?but then again, I NEVER rule out Joe Lee Dunn. This guy is a defensive mastermind?. This team plays with very little talent, but Sherrill and the boyz get the maximum effort from every guy almost every year. They seem to excel every single year that they?re expected to be a bottom-feeder?. Tenn hasn?t visited this po-dunk town in a number of years?. Yeah, we know what a cowbell is, ya dumb hicks. (j/k, all ya guys from Miss St.)
Nov 23 at Vanderbilt ? W ?there are players on both teams that weren?t born the last time Vandy beat Tennessee?.as a matter of fact, there may be a coach or two that weren?t born.
Nov 30 vs Kentucky ?W ?almost damn near gave me a fuhkin? heart attack last year. Not going to happen two years in a row?. Going to be an ASS Whoopin? in K-Town, like the four games prior to LY.
BOWL GAME ? BCS? ?only the first 12 games will decide who they get in this last one?.
?although I could almost guarantee 8 wins, and maybe 9 if you counted on another consecutive win over Bama, here?s what?s left, 2 of the 4 at home (but for Christ?s sake they?re both from Florida):
Sep 21 vs Florida ? ?
Oct 12 at Georgia ? ?
Nov 9 vs Miami Fla ? (Homecoming) ?????????
BOWL GAME ? BCS?
?they?d have to take 2 of these 4. That?s assuming that they get by this group, 2 of these 3 at home:
Oct 5 vs Arkansas ? W
Oct 26 vs Alabama ? W
Nov 16 at Mississippi St. - W
While as a fan I hope that they do, I?m the kind of man that will pay to see them do it?. Going to have to lean toward the Under 10 (+115) here.
?keep up the great work fellas.
Florida State Over 11 is a large number, but I think they win 12 of 13 minimum. Only game I see them possibly losing is at Miami. Get Florida at home to end the season, I honestly don't think they lose that game. Rest of the teams on their schedule pose minimal threats....at NC State (yes, they beat FSU last year..I don't see that happening again), at Maryland, at Louisville, at Iowa St, at Georgia Tech, at Wake...Virginia, Duke, Clemson, Notre Dame, North Carolina are home games. Those teams are all average to very good, but none that I think can beat on FSU if the Seminoles come to play. To lose that bet, FSU has to lose 3 games...not much of a chance that happens IMO. Boldin and Morgan are back at WR, offensive line is one of the best in the country, defense has 8 starters back, excellent rotation in the backfield, and Rix will put-up numbers worthy of the Heisman but won't get it since he is only a soph. And if he stays in college four years, I think he is an easy Top 3 draft pick. Franchise potential.
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I was about THIIIIIISSSS Close kurby to listing Tennessee as one of my best along with Florida State but the numbers looked a little tall. I think that there is not a game on the sched that the Vols cannot win, but going through the SEC and throwing in a game vs. Miami (home or away) is hard enough. Good breakdown on the Vols. My main worry about them is their Defensive line, but they should be in the hunt all year. Georgia could really be a thorn in everyon'es side as they are a year older and better with Richt.
Hoops broke down FSU very well and I agree with him in all points. I would say it would be a major disapointment for the Seminoles if they did not win at least 11 games and find their way into the BCS title game. The ACC wil resemble Florida State and the 7 dwarves again. They get Miami at home andI can't see them losing to Florida in a year of transition for them. Talent abounds and there are 19 starters from last year. After taking his lumps early, Rix put up some very impressive numbers and only figures to get better behind that O-line and having a RB like Greg Jones to shoulder some of that load. OH yeah, did I forget to mention that he has Robert Morgan and Anquan Boldin back and that those 2 guys are better than departed WR Javon Walker who is with the Packers now? However many many things need to go right for a team to win that many games talent or not.
I am still a bit puzzled as to why the Miami team total is so low, other than the fact that oddsmakers feel that they will not fare well in that FSU, Fla, Tenn rotation. I cannot see a team in the Big East being able to beat them again this year. But as we all know it is very hard to repeat.
Oh yeah, who was the last team to win back to back National titles???
Nebraska
:thefinger
I think you will see 2 one loss teams playing for it this year and that whoever the head of the BCS is this year, will see his head on a plate stuffed with an apple. We will not see a playoff anytime soon now that the BCS just signed an extension but we can only wish right?
Another tidbit to munch on:
Kansas State joins the growing legion of teams switching to field turf. Change your notes.
Trev Alberts joins the ESPN crew.
New Uniforms for: Nebraska, USC, Michigan State, Kansas and a few others. All being much uglier than what they used to wear.
-One day closer to kickoff-
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I was about THIIIIIISSSS Close kurby to listing Tennessee as one of my best along with Florida State but the numbers looked a little tall. I think that there is not a game on the sched that the Vols cannot win, but going through the SEC and throwing in a game vs. Miami (home or away) is hard enough. Good breakdown on the Vols. My main worry about them is their Defensive line, but they should be in the hunt all year. Georgia could really be a thorn in everyon'es side as they are a year older and better with Richt.
Hoops broke down FSU very well and I agree with him in all points. I would say it would be a major disapointment for the Seminoles if they did not win at least 11 games and find their way into the BCS title game. The ACC wil resemble Florida State and the 7 dwarves again. They get Miami at home andI can't see them losing to Florida in a year of transition for them. Talent abounds and there are 19 starters from last year. After taking his lumps early, Rix put up some very impressive numbers and only figures to get better behind that O-line and having a RB like Greg Jones to shoulder some of that load. OH yeah, did I forget to mention that he has Robert Morgan and Anquan Boldin back and that those 2 guys are better than departed WR Javon Walker who is with the Packers now? However many many things need to go right for a team to win that many games talent or not.
I am still a bit puzzled as to why the Miami team total is so low, other than the fact that oddsmakers feel that they will not fare well in that FSU, Fla, Tenn rotation. I cannot see a team in the Big East being able to beat them again this year. But as we all know it is very hard to repeat.
Oh yeah, who was the last team to win back to back National titles???
Nebraska
:thefinger
I think you will see 2 one loss teams playing for it this year and that whoever the head of the BCS is this year, will see his head on a plate stuffed with an apple. We will not see a playoff anytime soon now that the BCS just signed an extension but we can only wish right?
Another tidbit to munch on:
Kansas State joins the growing legion of teams switching to field turf. Change your notes.
Trev Alberts joins the ESPN crew.
New Uniforms for: Nebraska, USC, Michigan State, Kansas and a few others. All being much uglier than what they used to wear.
-One day closer to kickoff-
Please correct me if I am wrong, but I thought these bets only included regular season games and not conference championships or bowl games. It seemed like some of the picks hinged on the team winning their bowl game. I do not think those games count.
Got the lines from sportsbook.com
Like the FSU line, think they are that good.
USC at 7.5 over may be good. Their biggest weakness is the O Line, and that could cost them lots of games. Have heard that Carson Palmer has finally got it. A grasp on the system. Steve Sarkisian, their QB coach, came by our school to recruit two of our kids, and stated that he thought that Carson Palmer FINALLY has a grasp on the offense, only now he doesn't have a O Line to protect him.
What does Oregon's schedule look like. Have heard that they do not lose a ton of players (Harrington is huge). Belotti could easily out coach anyone in the Pac Ten. Several coaches in the conf who have trouble coaching themselves out of wet paper that's just an opinion though.
Like the FSU line, think they are that good.
USC at 7.5 over may be good. Their biggest weakness is the O Line, and that could cost them lots of games. Have heard that Carson Palmer has finally got it. A grasp on the system. Steve Sarkisian, their QB coach, came by our school to recruit two of our kids, and stated that he thought that Carson Palmer FINALLY has a grasp on the offense, only now he doesn't have a O Line to protect him.
What does Oregon's schedule look like. Have heard that they do not lose a ton of players (Harrington is huge). Belotti could easily out coach anyone in the Pac Ten. Several coaches in the conf who have trouble coaching themselves out of wet paper that's just an opinion though.
OREGON SCHEDULE
OREGON SCHEDULE
08/31/2002Mississippi State Eugene, Ore. FSN 3:00 p.m.
Sat 09/07/2002 Fresno State Eugene, Ore. FSN 12:30 p.m.
Sat 09/14/2002 Idaho Eugene, Ore. 12:30 p.m.
Sat 09/21/2002 Portland State Eugene, Ore. 12:30 p.m.
Sat 10/05/2002 Arizona Tucson, Ariz. 7:00 p.m.
Sat 10/12/2002 UCLA Los Angeles, Calif. 12:30 p.m.
Sat 10/19/2002 Arizona State Eugene, Ore. 12:30 p.m.
Sat 10/26/2002 USC Eugene, Ore. 12:30 p.m.
Sat 11/02/2002 Stanford Eugene, Ore. 12:30 p.m.
Sat 11/09/2002 Washington State Pullman, Wash. 2:00 p.m.
Sat 11/16/2002 Washington Eugene, Ore 12:30 p.m.
Sat 11/23/2002 Oregon State Corvallis, Ore. 1:00 p.m.
Murph, Looks like the ducks catch a break somewhat in their schedule in that they only leave the state of Oregon 3 times this year. The home crowd should give them a boost with early tough games with Miss State and Fresno State. Arizona could be an early pitfall as well as UCLA. Can't see them losing at home to USC. Washington game will be a war.
New QB Jason Fife may have a better arm than Harrington, but those intangibles will be hard to replace; especially early on. RB Ontarrio Smith is the best RB in the Pac 10 and Oregon still has tremendous skill-position players.
Ducks need to replace 2 corners. In that Pac 10 that does not bode well. One of those corners is a former QB and if he falters, JC Transfer David Dixon better be as good as advertised but he currently sits #2 on the depth chart.
One major plus is that the ducks do return their starting PK to maybe help them eek out a close victory or two in thier conference slate. Returning their punter does not hurt and they should have some of the best special teams in the Pac 10.
Keep this in mind. Last year with Joey Harrington Oregon won 4 games by a margin of 3 points or less. Without him they very easily could have lost all of them (see Wisconsin and UCLA for best examples). Another 1 of their victories was by 7 points, and we all know what happened with Stanford. Who will rise up in those types of games this year and provide that leadership that is essential in pulling out those types of contests?
If you ask me, I think they squeak by both Fresno and Miss State. I see them losing to Wazzu, Arizona, and Oregon State (COINCIDENCE THAT THOSE ARE THEIR 3 ROAD GAMES?) The UCLA game could be dicey but I would take Bellotti over Toldeo and Corey Paus anyday. This oughtta be a pretty good team but they will not be in the hunt for the NLT. A trip to the Holiday Bowl would be a nice ending for this bunch.
OREGON SCHEDULE
08/31/2002Mississippi State Eugene, Ore. FSN 3:00 p.m.
Sat 09/07/2002 Fresno State Eugene, Ore. FSN 12:30 p.m.
Sat 09/14/2002 Idaho Eugene, Ore. 12:30 p.m.
Sat 09/21/2002 Portland State Eugene, Ore. 12:30 p.m.
Sat 10/05/2002 Arizona Tucson, Ariz. 7:00 p.m.
Sat 10/12/2002 UCLA Los Angeles, Calif. 12:30 p.m.
Sat 10/19/2002 Arizona State Eugene, Ore. 12:30 p.m.
Sat 10/26/2002 USC Eugene, Ore. 12:30 p.m.
Sat 11/02/2002 Stanford Eugene, Ore. 12:30 p.m.
Sat 11/09/2002 Washington State Pullman, Wash. 2:00 p.m.
Sat 11/16/2002 Washington Eugene, Ore 12:30 p.m.
Sat 11/23/2002 Oregon State Corvallis, Ore. 1:00 p.m.
Murph, Looks like the ducks catch a break somewhat in their schedule in that they only leave the state of Oregon 3 times this year. The home crowd should give them a boost with early tough games with Miss State and Fresno State. Arizona could be an early pitfall as well as UCLA. Can't see them losing at home to USC. Washington game will be a war.
New QB Jason Fife may have a better arm than Harrington, but those intangibles will be hard to replace; especially early on. RB Ontarrio Smith is the best RB in the Pac 10 and Oregon still has tremendous skill-position players.
Ducks need to replace 2 corners. In that Pac 10 that does not bode well. One of those corners is a former QB and if he falters, JC Transfer David Dixon better be as good as advertised but he currently sits #2 on the depth chart.
One major plus is that the ducks do return their starting PK to maybe help them eek out a close victory or two in thier conference slate. Returning their punter does not hurt and they should have some of the best special teams in the Pac 10.
Keep this in mind. Last year with Joey Harrington Oregon won 4 games by a margin of 3 points or less. Without him they very easily could have lost all of them (see Wisconsin and UCLA for best examples). Another 1 of their victories was by 7 points, and we all know what happened with Stanford. Who will rise up in those types of games this year and provide that leadership that is essential in pulling out those types of contests?
If you ask me, I think they squeak by both Fresno and Miss State. I see them losing to Wazzu, Arizona, and Oregon State (COINCIDENCE THAT THOSE ARE THEIR 3 ROAD GAMES?) The UCLA game could be dicey but I would take Bellotti over Toldeo and Corey Paus anyday. This oughtta be a pretty good team but they will not be in the hunt for the NLT. A trip to the Holiday Bowl would be a nice ending for this bunch.
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I really like UNLV over six games...... Jason Thomas will be a lot better this year-
they can win the following games this year-
Kansas
at Toledo
Nevada
N Mexico
at SDSU
Wyoming
Air Force
I expect that they will at least 6 of these 7 games. All you need is one upset from their other games- if not no worse than a push...:shrug:
they can win the following games this year-
Kansas
at Toledo
Nevada
N Mexico
at SDSU
Wyoming
Air Force
I expect that they will at least 6 of these 7 games. All you need is one upset from their other games- if not no worse than a push...:shrug: