SEC Thoughts and Other Ramblings

StuckinNJ

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This started off as a response to Illuminati's Games of the Year post, but got so far off-topic, I didn't think it fair to post it there. So....

Tim Tebow is the ideal college football player and will be held up as such for the rest of my life, HOWEVER, I have serious doubts if Florida would have won the championship last year had they NOT lost to Ole Miss. UF was a different team after that game and I think clearly the best team in the country from there out, but UF was not clearly better than every other team on a player-by-player basis. I think that that distinction is being overlooked by all of the bandwagoneers this year. They do return their entire defense this year, which is awesome, but lets face it, the main component of their defense last year was the 20 point and growing deficit their opponents tended to face about 10 minutes into the game. This year O line has 2 big holes, Harvin is gone and they have no real lead RB (at least, not yet). And most importantly last year, post Ole Miss, they played with an unbelievable sense of purpose. I don't think there is any way they pick that up where they left off last season.

You know who's a great coach? Bill Parcells. Want to see something interesting - look at his record without Belichick at DC, ASC, etc. Know who else is touted as a great coach? Urban Meyer. Want to see something interesting - look at his record without Dan Mullen. You may want to study it more deeply, but I'll summarize it for you : 0-0. Mullen was QB coach for Tebow and Alex Smith and OC of late. Imagine an Urban Meyer team without the high-powered offense and great QB play - I don't know about you, but I'm drawing a blank. I guess we'll see. And of course, we're already into uncharted water with Meyer staying at one school for more than 2 years. Let's see how he does as he gets further and further from Zook's recruits.

I'll say it now, I don't think UF will win the Championship. In fact I don't think they'll win the SEC. Wait for it...I don't even think they'll win the SEC East.

Double digit favorites in EVERY game? Sounds like a great opportunity to me.

On the other hand, while I hope I don't have to take UF -27 in the UT game, I will.

UGA will probably lose outright to Oklahoma State, but I think they'll beat UF and win the tie-breaker for the SEC East. I know Stafford and Moreno are gone, but I don't think that's really that big a deal. Stafford was a better NFL prospect than college QB and Moreno was good in an NFL Michael Vick sort of way - deadly against bad defenses, not really much of a factor against good ones.

I'll gladly take UF -11 over LSU right now. I think that it will be substantially higher by game time. Look how similar Miles's year 4 at LSU was to his year 4 at OSU. I think Les Miles is one of those coaches that is great with other people's teams, but maybe not so great at building his own. I know they have highly ranked recruiting classes, but getting great players that you NEED is more important that grabbing every 4 and 5 star recruit you can (I also wonder if Urban Meyer is like this - we'll have to wait and see).

Alabama went 12-0 last year in the regular season mainly because the Ole Miss game didn't last 5 more minutes. After Terrence Cody went down in that game, Bama was nowhere near the same. We did ok, I guess, but you never knew when JPW or Arenas was going to level the playing field with an exihibition-quality screw-up. We lost to UF and Utah because they were better teams. We'll lose to Ole Miss this year because they're a better team ,mainly because their O will be so much better than ours. On the other hand, UT might not score, as God will smite UT this year in ways not thought of since Cecil B. DeMille was in charge of retribution. We should finish 11-1.

Ole Miss runs the table this year, including beating UGA in the SEC championship game and beating whoever they play in the Sugar Bowl. Nutt will be given a lifetime contract, then fired in 2012 once the last of Orgeron's recruits leave and Ole Miss's record drops back down to a more familiar 7-5. They can get together with Auburn fans and show off their national championship rings that they made for themselves for the year when they were SCREWED out of getting to play for it.

Folks will talk about it being a down year in the SEC again and how the best football is being played in the BIG XII (again!) and mainly how, sure last year the offensive numbers were inflated due to the poor defenses, BUT THIS YEAR IS DIFFERENT.

Tebow will play his last game at UF, not win the Heisman (again, not appearing on most of the BG XII ballots), get drafted in the 3rd round, play about 5 plays that we actually get to see in the NFL, then get obscenely rich lending his name to car dealerships and restaurants in northcentral and central Florida. We'll see a picture of him in about 20 years, bloated and balding, and spend hours trying to see the person we remember in that alien face, just like we do now with Pat Dye. And our grandkids will put no more faith in our tales of Tebow than we did in our grandparents tales of Thorp.

Oklahoma will naturally go undefeated (handing Texas its only loss), Bob Stoops will FINALLY win a BCS Championship with a team he built, probably against Penn State or some such team, and appear on the cover of Sports Illustrated with story line "Best of All Time?..."

And the world will spin on.
 

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sorry to disagree with you stuckinnj but fla is very strong along both lines , have 20 returning starters including tebow back, don't play bama & miss this year & have a very favorable schedule...with lsu as their main obstacle because they play the game at lsu.....but will have 2 weeks to prepare for the game, while lsu will play georgia the week before....so i think they go undefeated.....but covering is another matter....
 

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Don't think Florida will be favored by any more than 7 over LSU when that game kicks off and it wouldn't surprise me one little bit if the Tigers 'upset' them. Think the Gators will miss Percy more than they might realize. Wouldn't surprise me either if Oklahoma St thumped Georgia pretty good.
 

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Offensive lines starting 2 new tackles are not 'very strong'. They may turn out to be very strong in the end, but that's not the way I'm betting. And another thing, returning 20 starters is only as good as the players. I bet Washington is eternally grateful they aren't returning 20 starters. I wonder if UF is returning 20 starters because talent is down this year and they just don't have anyone better?*

Yes, the UF schedule is far easier than last year's, but the LSU game isn't the one I'd worry about. Last year's LSU record shouldn't have been a surprise - its right in line with what he did at Ok St. No reason to think this year's will be better, in fact, I happen to think that this year's results will be worse. I think UGA will be the problem for UF this year. I hate to say that because I think Richt is a punk and, until Kiffin came in, because I thought UGA would be at the top of Meyer's Must Crush list, but things have changed.

I dont know who AI is. Who knows, I may agree with them too.

I too think that Bama will be down from last season, but how far down? I'll spot you Ole Miss, I'll consider Va Tech, LSU and Auburn and thats about it. Saban will likely have the perfect game plan for Va Tech since he's had so much time (see Clemson, 2008); as I said above, I think LSU and Les Miles will be returning to LM's natural level of about 8-4 over the next 2 years; and God knows, I pray we beat Auburn and we certainly should but who knows (17-16, Punt Bama Punt comes to mind). I predicted 11-1 and wouldn't be stunned at 10-2. Are you suggesting 9-3 or worse?

Assuming no injuries to Florida, I can't see the spread for the first half of the LSU game being less than UF -7 by gameday. If you wouldn't be surprised for LSU to beat UF, then you are truly hard to surprise. Frankly, I'd be less surprised for Troy to beat UF than LSU - no chance that UF is looking past LSU and there is no comparison personnel-wise.

One thing I have to admit as I read back over my last 2 posts - I am giving Meyer a bit of a pass on the same issues I'm skewering Miles for. That said, Miles DOES have a little history to back up my assumption that he doesn't do well once he starts coaching his own guys. And Miles DOES have a rather checkered past as far as play calling goes, particularly in big games. Meyer is just in uncharted waters both in terms of being at school more than 2 years, and more importantly, having to coach for the first time without Mullen.

* I dont really wonder this, but I do wonder how far you got on your furious response before you found out I was kidding.
 

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I do try to make it known that I am a Bama fan by using terms like "we" and "us" so that folks will realize my prejudice in that direction. I also have stated outright that I was several times in the past, but still feel like its only fair to let folks know.

On the other hand, I really try hard to keep any feelings of that type one way or another out of any considerations I may make. They may be worthless or misguided, but I try to make them honest.

That aside, I'm not sure that I see what prompted your response. Oh wait, didn't you used to have an LSU avatar?

Sounds like I offended a fan rather than a capper. GL going forward.
 

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That aside, I'm not sure that I see what prompted your response. Oh wait, didn't you used to have an LSU avatar?

Sounds like I offended a fan rather than a capper. GL going forward.

:142smilie :142smilie

Why would offense be taken? I simply pointed out your use of 'we', etc.

Not sure what LSU has to do with this, but despite being a season ticket holder for the past 11-12 years, I wager against LSU far more than on LSU and try to call it as I see it in good times and bad. I am pretty sure that other regulars on the site will verify this. Furthermore, I grew up with a key member of the Bama coaching staff, which is why I root for Bama when they are not facing LSU.

And, yes, my LSU avatar will be back by football season. GL going forward.
 

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My 2 cents:

ITS MISSISSIPPI
The only SEC west team to make 7 straight bowl appearences.....
They are coached by NUTT
In my openion Miss is Miss and will never win or compete for the SEC now if they were in any other confrance they have a shot.....

ALABAMA
Its their time to shine or sink, my thoughts are not out yet.....believe they shine again with the great sabear......

LSU
Not must heard of these guys that puts them very dagerous....If the QB pans out might be the only hope of beating FL......Most fans i talk to like the mad hatter dont know why but do....if they have another year like last year, my thoughts are correct he stinks.........

FL
Someone mentened that Myer has a unproven record without Mullen :mj07: so did Carroll at USC without now 4 and didnt stop his winning....
FL wins DD against weak big 12 opponet (( God please dont let it be shitty OK ( a team on a mission.....:thefinger ) again:shrug: )) for National Championship....:mj07: :mj07: Tebow will fill in nicely for Mullans departure....
Number one defense
Number one in average victory
Number one team in America

Tenn
they will be average.....they are a ways away from being where they need to be.....

GA
IT the year of the Reich......
Make or break.....Loss to FL like usual, but should beat eveyone else.......

ARK
Sleeper, with the new QB and one of the top 3 coaches in the SEC watch out for them this year...They are the Miss of next year...

AUB
I am a aub fan get us to Sheerport and we will be happy, no bowl and i am really pissed.....but 6 wins will be tough this year......

And the rest......:sadwave:

Sorry for the terrable spelling.......they didnt teach us that in college....
 
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