Selfish Athletes (re: Nolan's Post)

Nick Douglas

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Though it is true that athletes are incredibly pampered these days, I think there are a couple of things Nolan overlooks.

1) NFL contracts are not guaranteed. Nolan gave the example of Testaverde being knocked down a peg in salary if he underperformed. You are damned right he could be, and he wouldn't even be able to negotiate. NFL players can be cut at any time and they get paid *nothing* on the rest of their "contract".

2) Every single person on this board (though there may be one or two extreme exceptions and I even doubt that) has the right to go to whatever job will pay them the most money. If you are the finest printer-repairman Hewlett-Packard has ever seen, you have every right to call up ol' Carly and tell her to double your salary if Lexmark calls you with a better offer.

Now, it is true that these athletes did sign legal contracts guaranteeing that they would play for a specified amount of money, but when did we forget the principles of negotiating in good faith? If an athlete is suddenly worth $8 million on the open market rather than $3 million, how just is it for a team to take a hard stance and refuse to re-negotiate? Also, it is clear that in many cases the player has the right to simply not play if they so choose. Galloway and Mike Peca were not forced to pay any damages for breach of contract whatsoever for the time that they refused to play for the contracts they signed. I know I am not privy to every detail of every athlete's contract so perhaps it is within their rights to refuse to play if they feel the contract is too low.

3) Most of all, remember that entertainment (and sports) is a star-driven industry. In most cases, stars, and the wins they produce, are what puts asses in seats. I don't feel sorry for owners in the least because A) they routinely lie and claim financial hardship to get stadium deals, better CBAs, and B) they are huge marks for starpower and winning.

If owners wanted to be fiscally responsible, we would have a world of Donald Sterlings. The Clippers have never lost money, they have never requested anything from the community and (not coincidentally) they have never put together a contender. Sterling is no mark for winning. He runs his team responsibly like a business. Ticket prices are kept low, the highest salary in team history is an astoundingly low $4 million per year and he has been perfectly happy to play in whatever arena the community and/or private sector has provided him. Yet, when fans think of the worst owners in sports history, Sterling tops almost every list.

We live in a capitalist society. The very foundation of that is you are supposed to strive to get paid whatever you are worth on the open market. Obviously there are flaws and exceptions to that but if you don't like it, there are plenty of places in this world to go to escape it. It is time to face the facts: If you want your community or team to win, they will have to pay dearly for it. If your ownership is unwilling or unable to pay a player what he can get elsewhere, either pass a sales tax add-on to pay athlete's salaries or let that player move on.
 

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I agree that a worker in private industry has the option of going to the highest bidder any time, at their own whim.....just like sports... however, the big difference in real life vs. sports is that, while in real life, if you are not performing, the company has the right to fire you at any time - whereas in MLB for instance, you can have a 5 year guaranteed contract and not peform and still get paid all 5 years as if you were... that is a BIG difference.
 

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You are absolutely right that in the NBA or MLB you are guaranteed your money but there are similar situations in most executive positions in corporate America. I remember the father of a girl that lived down the hall from me freshman year was the head of Sony Entertainment and he led them to their worst year ever, so they canned him but he still got a $2 million severance package.

I do agree that it is wrong for an athlete to get that but do two wrongs make a right? Also, I would argue that the number of cases in which that occurs is relatively small compared to the number of cases in which an athlete could get more in the open market.

Unrealted topic, but...

How much do you think Pedro would be worth as a free agent? I am saying $25 mil per year, easy.
 

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You lost me when you stated "no one in the NFL has a guaranteed contract. Not true. Most of your starting QBs have a guaranteed contract-- everyone else, if they are cut, they don't get paid. Just one more reason as to why the NFL is the best Pro sport going today.....
 

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When I say guaranteed contract, I mean that if the player is cut they get paid. NOBODY in the NFL has a guaranteed contract in the NFL, NOBODY. That is why signing bonus' are such a big deal.

Look, when Grbac got but by KC, he had like $10 mil left on his deal. He did not get paid one cent. No NFL player has a guaranteed contract at all.

And yes, that *is* part of what makes the NFL the most well-run sports league in the world. In fact, you guys wouldn't believe how messed up soccer is with their labor situation. Too detailed to get into right now but basically there is no such thing as free agent rights on any level in soccer.
 

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Personally, I don't see what all the hubub is about. As Nick stated, I don't see any difference between what some of these athletes are doing and any other segment of this capitalistic society. Should we go back to the pre-Curt Flood era of baseball, where a player was basically a slave to his company (his team) and unable to go work for another company (another team)? I don't feel sorry for these owners one iota. I realise the importance of integrity in a man's word and his loyalty, but it goes both ways. For every Deion Sanders, there is a Donald Sterling on the opposite side of the equation. In my mind, owning a professional sports team should be viewed as a luxery, and NOT a business decison or an investment. With somewhere around 120 or so professional franchises, not many people have the opportunity to do so. If you take a loss during the season, then SO WHAT? It's not like a $20 million hit is going to drive these guys to eat pork n' beans. What I'm trying to say is that these owners and ownership groups know this going in. You here about sports being a "business", but is it really? Do these folks actually think they are going to get a high return on their "investment"? The list of people who have gotten rich from owning a sports franchise is rather small, yet all we here about is how much money these teams are losing. Well, hey chief, it's a friggen GAME. How about taking a (relatively) small loss for the benefit of the community in which the team plays? How bout a little philanthropy? If you don't like losing money on your team (which, by the way, is debatable), sell it to somebody who doesn't mind for god's sake. Last time I checked, the prospective ownership line was quite long. And loyalty? Where is the loyalty in Al Davis switching cities every other year? Or how about the despicable act of Art Modell picking up and abandoning a city that had supported him and his team for decades? How about Tom Werner coming in, buying the Padres, conducting a fire sale, and then selling the team the next season because he wasn't nearly as successful as he was with his trashy sit-coms? How about what's been going on in Montreal for the last decade, producing the major's best talent and then shipping them off when they become to "pricey" and fielding a team that is eliminated before the season even starts? And they complain because of lack of fan support? Well, if I lived in a city that has dumped Pedro Martinez, Randy Johnson, Larry Walker, and about 15 other stars and then fired the manager for not winning.....I probably wouldn't buy a ticket either. Greed is not a phenomenon that only the players possess.
 
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