Sengoku Raiden Championship 15: October 30th, Tokyo, Japan

[kickserv]

Fight Card
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Maximo Blanco vs. Kiuma Kunioku
Keita Nakamura vs. Takuya Wada
James Zikic vs. Hiroshi Izumi
Doo Ho Choi vs. Masanori Kanehara
Chang Seob Lee vs. Kazuo Takahashi
Brian Cobb vs. Kazunori Yokota
Yasubey Enomoto vs. Taisuke Okuno
Manabu Inoue vs. Jae Hyun So
Akitoshi Tamura vs. Shoko Sato
Shunichi Shimizu vs. Wataru Takahashi
Shintaro Ishiwatari vs. Taiyo Nakahara


Live on HDNET at 2am EST Saturday morning

 

[kickserv]

MMA Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 40-58
Fighter vs. Fighter 228-365
Parlays 98-163

-19.28 Joe Rogans


Kazuo Takahashi beat Chang Seob Lee $1.95 (-105) *1 Joe Rogan

Hiroshi Izumi beat James Zikic $1.95 (-105) *1 Joe Rogan

Brian Cobb beat Kazunori Yokota $5.15 (+415) *1 Joe Rogan


Parlay
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Maximo Blanco
Keita Nakamura
Yasubey Enomoto
Akitoshi Tamura
Shintaro Ishiwatari

odds = $4.44 (+344) *1 Joe Rogan

 

[ukgaz]

Two plays for me.

1 Unit on Zikic
0.25 Units on Cobb

I know Cobb missed weight but he has a clear advantage in wrestling. Worth a small play

Zikic is on the back end of his career but he is an experienced fighter. I think he used that knowledge to take the win

 

[kickserv]

Announcer Michael Schiavello is hilarious.....man that guy is funny:grins: :lol:

 

[Ghost Kid]

Ishiwatari got robbed blind

 

[kickserv]

I great morning for kickserv......+5.05 Rogans profit

:00hour


But I should have also won my parlay.......Ishiwatari got robbed.....that cost me the parlay


Oh well.


MMA Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 40-58
Fighter vs. Fighter 231-365
Parlays 98-164

-14.23 Joe Rogans

 

[ukgaz]

Only 0.38 Units of profit for me. Not seen the fights yet. Will watch when I get home

 

[Ghost Kid]

Only 0.38 Units of profit for me. Not seen the fights yet. Will watch when I get home

you won't be pleased when you watch
there were two robberies - ishiwatari, and unfortunately for your bet, zikic.

izumi didn't do shit.

 

[Oddessa]

not a fan of the 2 x 5 min rds...but admit Bellators 'toughman' rounds a few cards back with the women was dreadfull...so much as to make Prizefighter look exciting..


..some poor decisions in sengoku last night though...

judging is certainly getting tougher to get a solid feel for...look at the russian draw...they are all over the map..

but its in all sports...skating..boxing & diving (aussie pun intended)..gymnastics...etc..

humans make errors...but some of them are just baffling...and criminal at times.. a pass on a potential beat is as good as a win when in doubt..

 

[The Sponge]

95 percent of bad decisions go to the book. Not rocket science. Refs are not this bad. Judges are not this bad. Corruptions is what is bad unless u work for the books. Perfect example was the Nebraska game today. Line kept rising all day long and everyone was on Missouri. Why wouldn't u be. They just destroyed the number one team in the nation last week abnd to boot on national tv. The talking heads will tell ya Missouri just let down today. I never had or seen a let down in all my life in any sport unless gambling is involved. When i was young and we won we just got more confident. We didn't let down :mj07: The biggest bullshit rreason i ever saw since the days where Brett Farve supposidly couldn't pass in a dome :mj07: Games Brett lost that the books always won. People are just to stupid to realize they are getting shafted.

 

[Oddessa]

95 percent of bad decisions go to the book. Not rocket science. Refs are not this bad. Judges are not this bad. Corruptions is what is bad unless u work for the books

Laughable...I'd debate if I wasnt headded to a meeting... but with respect you are absolutely out of ur mind.

There's no way to even know such a thing if you're not behind the counter..and its even hard to identify it if you were...and when someone does tank..and it happens...guys betting high dont even know...

How could u possibly know what the books need? There are probly 1000+ sportsbooks in Costa Rica alone.

If there was anything resembling proof of such a statement there would be indictments everywhere...



Not bashing you, but that comment is as ridiculous as the day is long...


No such thing as letdowns? Are you kidding. If anything its that belief that makes the sportsbooks moremoney because only a dope would think letdowns in any sport...(more particularl in individual sports)...dont exist....

just wow....

 

[The Sponge]

Laughable...I'd debate if I wasnt headded to a meeting... but with respect you are absolutely out of ur mind.

There's no way to even know such a thing if you're not behind the counter..and its even hard to identify it if you were...and when someone does tank..and it happens...guys betting high dont even know...

How could u possibly know what the books need? There are probly 1000+ sportsbooks in Costa Rica alone.

If there was anything resembling proof of such a statement there would be indictments everywhere...



Not bashing you, but that comment is as ridiculous as the day is long...


No such thing as letdowns? Are you kidding. If anything its that belief that makes the sportsbooks moremoney because only a dope would think letdowns in any sport...(more particularl in individual sports)...dont exist....

just wow....

U seriously a bookmaker? How can i tell what they need? Are u saying all books basically need different games? My goodness u really think that lol. Sure books have different needs but they all need mostly the same thing. They set a line like 8.5 with Nebraska where do u think the majority of the bettors are gonna go, over to bet the Temple/Akron game? I guess u also think books set lines to get equal action and if u do this converstaions doesn't need to go on. As for letdowns give me a break okay. Never ever in my life playing sports did my team have a letdown after a big win. We got more confident. That is what happens when gambling isn't involved. We didn't have to worry about shady refs stacking the cards against us or having a corrupt coach calling stupid plays to cover the spread. Let me help ya tomorrow. The books will need Carolina and Detroit to come in at 100 tomorrow. That should be their two biggest needs at 100. Will they both win? Id say they split so the books get all that parlay money from the public and the sharps. I have been saying a lot of these games are rigged for the better part of twenty years and bam a ref finally comes out and says exactly what i have been saying and what happens. They make the ref out to be insane lol.

 

[Oddessa]

I dont have much time here because I gotta run....and honestly....I thought/think you are trolling because I dont think anyone can be that ignorant to make such a comment...

If you said bettors got to the athletes..I might entertain ur lack of any rational thought...but the bookies? LMAO

I been probly spent more money in lawyers on bookmaking charges in last 21 yrs than you won/lost lifetime betting games...& more time behind the counter than you did watching games...so please dont come with the even action nonsense....even the dumbest bookmaker would look to take a position on games with the house edge. Every game on a board fotr that matter woukld be ideal if his numbers were solid...

Just wow.

I dont want to be an asshole...but dollars to donuts...you have alot to learn my friend...

In a Sengoku Japan MMA thread no less... thats whats even funnier..

Not everything is fixed because of gambling...and last night the Asian judges and the Yakuza or whatever fantasy you have werent flocking to the windows looking to bet against the split decision losers.. Nor were the Mizzou alumni....or the bookies...

Peace and respectfully disagree...but ur mixing apples, oranges, and cynide here...


If you know or think they are fixed..just bet the opposite side of the public....

 

[The Sponge]

I dont have much time here because I gotta run....and honestly....I thought/think you are trolling because I dont think anyone can be that ignorant to make such a comment...

If you said bettors got to the athletes..I might entertain ur lack of any rational thought...but the bookies? LMAO

I been probly spent more money in lawyers on bookmaking charges in last 21 yrs than you won/lost lifetime betting games...& more time behind the counter than you did watching games...so please dont come with the even action nonsense....even the dumbest bookmaker would look to take a position on games with the house edge. Every game on a board fotr that matter woukld be ideal if his numbers were solid...

Just wow.

I dont want to be an asshole...but dollars to donuts...you have alot to learn my friend...

In a Sengoku Japan MMA thread no less... thats whats even funnier..

Not everything is fixed because of gambling...and last night the Asian judges and the Yakuza or whatever fantasy you have werent flocking to the windows looking to bet against the split decision losers.. Nor were the Mizzou alumni....or the bookies...

Peace and respectfully disagree...but ur mixing apples, oranges, and cynide here...


If you know or think they are fixed..just bet the opposite side of the public....

nevermind. U have all the answers. If books were legit they would move their lines with the money coming in but they don't and most of u move ur lines together even if u don't have one bet on the game. Why is that? Why don't u all move ur own books as seperate entities? why do u all follow each other give or take a half of a point? Money was all over the Ravens and New Orleans last week but somehow the lines were going the other way:shrug: And somehow the books knew that the Ravens and New orleans would shit the bed against those two pathetic teams they played. How did the books know to suck in more money on those two games and how did they know those two teams would play so bad? I will tellya why. Because the big books like Bet Cris know who is gonna win before the game is played. They have their refs in place. token athletes and a lot of these coaches. why do the books continually try to bullshit people like they try to set the lines to get equal action on games when they purposely short change some lines to get more action on certain games? Because they know who is gonna win most of the time that is why. why would a book want equal action on a game when they can take 70 percent of the action? You say bet against the public huh. don't the books want sharp money to? They sure do that is why they throw the public a bone once in a while. If the public lost every game there wouldn't be a public. I have a lot to learn? I think anyone that owns a book and doesn't know that some of these games are rigged is an imbecile and i bet Tim Donaghy would say the same.

 

[The Sponge]

I also love when a teams best player gets hurt that team somehow becomes better. it wouldn't have anything to do with them not having any money bet on them and everyone betting against them would it? When i was young and our best player was out we didn't step it up and become better. We got drilled just like everyone would. We got drilled because there was no betting on those games. There was no money to be made by anyone.