SIA on it's last leg?

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Hear my latest adventure with the first sportsbook north of the border.

I'm posting here because it'll get mpore attention than in the sportsbooks forum.


I usually deposit (ed) into SIA via their e-check / Swiftpay method. Have done that for over a year with no problems whatsoever. Last month I made 4 deposits after withdrawing a dime in late July. Proceeded to lose the balance remaining of roughly $700 - $800. Deposits are typically of $250. These were on 8/18, 8/27, 9/2 and 9/3, so I had pretty much returned what money I had just withdrawn. Good for them. Maximum deposit via that method is $500 a week.

After my last deposit on 9/3 I gradually worked my account up to $1,300.00 by 9/18. Mostly on bases, and during the week, since you can?t get in to wager on football or anything else on weekend anyhow.

I called to ask for a withdrawal of all funds on 9/18 because was fed up with their ?server? problems. Lo and behold, they tell me that my latest deposit made on 9/3 had been rejected because of an incorrect account number submitted, and proceed to ?expropriate? all funds from my account leaving the balance at $0.00.
The bank account that I use there is mostly for wagering and paying some small personal bills and had sufficient funds. I have made numerous deposits via the same method with the same bank account without a problem. I actually use the automatic filling drop down box of my browser and then check to make sure the numbers are correct. They say they found out about the incorrect account No. on 9/12, but never notified me about it until I requested a $1,295.00 withdrawal on 9/18.

Now, I have to say they never did take the funds out of my account for the last deposit, although in my bank account there does appear a withdrawal on 9/4 which was for the transaction made on 9/2. But these people usually take a week to 10 days or even more before they withdraw funds. I guess that quick withdrawal from my bank account should have been a sign that things aren?t well at SIA, huh ???

Anyhow, I would assume that the usual procedure, if I actually made an incorrect input of account No., would have been to call me or email me asking to re-deposit the funds or some similar measure. At this point I am assuming that THEY made a clerical mistake when entering the account No. and were covering their arses.

But they never informed me. And when I called them after they confiscated my balance they told me that in their rules they state that they can do this.

Now, I am no scammer, what?s the point? All I was looking for is a small book where I can make small deposits without the Neteller or WU hassle. Why would I make a false deposit when I?ve made probably dozens over the last year or so from the same account without a problem?

Their Cust. Serv., as usual, was terrible. I supposedly spoke to a ?manager? about it and she really said nothing except that that was the way it was going to be.
When I asked them why I hadn?t been made aware of the problem that they had ?supposedly? found out about on 9/12 (when my balance was only $418), they just repeated that per their rules they can void all wagers and confiscate my balance, no other explanation or apology or intent of looking for a solution.

When I see a book doing something like this and not even trying to settle in some way the issue, it tells me that they are not looking to stay in business for long. If I'm dumb enough to redeposit my money there, they will take it some other way. Hell they may be out of business by now from what I have read on the forums. NOBODY can even log on!

Fortunately I have several other books funded at this point VIA WESTERN UNION, but it still pisses me off that these incompetent little schmucks have made away with over $1,045 of MY MONEY (deducting the deposit). it's hard eneough to beat the damn book and then they pull crap like this on you.

These people WILL NOT be in business for long. BEWARE. Call them and demand answers and accountability for your funds there. If you don?t feel comfortable, TRY to get your money out, for your sake.
 

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I'm not against you, but just a couple of questions.

If SIA quickly withdrawing the money (2 days instead of 10) is a sign that things are not going well for them then why didn't they quickly make the withdrawal of your last deposit?

Do you have a responsibility to ensure the money is actually taken out of the account? Seems to me that depositing this way is very inefficient.

And just one more thing, if SIA really is in trouble, encouraging a run on their bank isn't the best solution.
 

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All I'm saying is to call up and make them aware that you are concerned and want them to be accountable for your funds (mostly because of their server issues lately). People, this is YOUR money, however much is left there. ;)
And altough i am pi$$ed about the money, unfortunately I have lost similar quantities in a night, and it always comes back somehow (or when you win it goes back somehow).
These people have always paid me without a problem, check mailed and received within 7 days.

As for encouraging runs, that's already being done on posting forums all over the place. Hell, it's only the beginning of football, these guys should be good after all the deposits. Their silence is the problem here.

With regards to responsability of ensuring funds are taken out, of course I do. But, if you were a supermarket would you, after a customer inadvertently forgot to sign a check, go to their house 3 weeks later and take their food out of the fridge? What if a clerk wrote down the wrong account No. when making the deposit of that check? Extreme example, yes. But you get the picture. If Ihad lost the funds I would have had to pay them anyhow and perhaps an additional amount? Even tough, I repeat, I still see no way how I could have entered incorrect information. And if I did, I believe there are ample historical transacations in the account to review and see what the correct info. was.

I got screwed 'cause I trusted, and all I'm saying is to be alert and hold all books accountable. There is a chitload of money out there being exchanged. And just because it's a shady business doesn't mean that there shouldn't be mutual interest in looking out for both parties well-being. WE ARE PREPAYING her all the time, we should get a little more respect.

Well, enough of this, just be aware, people. Make the books accountable! There's no reason for little things like this to happen even once.
 

dawger

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I understand your frustration. What would you happened if you lost the money? Would you be held accountable for it?

One of the reasons I asked the question like is because SIA is a good book for small players like myself and they I don't want to go switching! :mad:

Also, football season and all the deposits, etc so they should be looking alright in the pocket book, right? Well I think it'll get even better as the season moves on.. Did you see the bonuses they were paying out opening weekend?

Good luck with your situtation, hope things improve. Karma appears on your side, so its all good! :cool:
 

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I don't have money at SIA anymore, but I used to really like them. All I here now, though, are bad stories like this, or, "I can't get into SIA again!" Hope u get your money back, sounds like a raw deal especially with your history of depositing by that method. Also, I wouldn't think the deposit would have gone thru in the first place had the information been incorrect.
 

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I quit them after i started a hot streak in basketball last year and they wouldnt give me my money when i asked for it. When i was a mediocre wagerer, win some--lose some, they didnt have a problem cutting me a check for a few hundred here or there. But when i started calling up on a weekly basis getting dimes out, they came up with all this BS of why they couldnt refund it. Then, i NEVER could get into these folks when i would call. Always busy signals or something, took forever to get into them........
 

acehistr8

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Theyve been down for me all morning.

I will be removing what little I have left there when they open. I am done with them.
 

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i have no problems with them at all... i don't use them no more cuz sometimes there servers aren't up so i have to make my hockey plays b4 i go to work or school...these server problems are still happening? if so i won't be back with them
 

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Maybe you all should use

Maybe you all should use

wwts....

been in business for over 10 years and are as STRAIGHT UP as it gets !

GL
 
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