regardless of the outcome of this game I have seen enough to say that washington is just not bad but really bad. And as far as coaching goes it seems to be even worse. I used to think marty was a good coach, but maybe in k.c. and clev. it was talent not coaching that made him look good. from the opening kick the skins look lost and just playing for a check. and no i did not bet on the skins, i seen no value at all in this game. but from a fan perspective this skins team looks like a div 2 college football team!