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selkirk

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earnings are coming out for some companies I own and mentioned in the past so would like to do an update on most of them,....well a few.

SLF

earnings came in for the Quarter at .94 up from .83/share last year. last years earnings came in at 3.58 this year should be 3.90-4

the company announced a 7.5% increase to it dividends (always like increase to divdends every year or two). pay out ratio will be in the 30-40% range. also share buybacks will average $500 million a year.

company should be able to grow 10% a year.

positives MFS reported strong earnings (of coarse zero is an easy number to beat.)
the US mutual fund arm has cut costs and sales have improved.

the company has some challenges such as slow growth in their US and cdn. divisions.

companies growth in India and China appears to be going well, small part of the business however growing quickly. Much larger in India than China.

another cdn. insurance company that also trades in the US MFC is larger in China than SLF.

company yields over 2.5% and trades around 13X earnings.

SLF gets no respect, when they announced the results most commented that the surprise came from MFS that they wanted to sell. SLF wanted to merge MFS with a bigger US mutual fund company and take a large ownership position. this did not materialize. instead SLF cut costs and decided it was better to keep the company.

SLF gets no respect.

speaking of no respect teck TCK.b (on Toronto) reported another great quarter.

the base metal miner reported quarterly rev. of 2.09 billion up from 1.34 billion a year ago.

earnings 3.98/share compared to 2.35 last year quarter.

they mine copper, zinc, molybenum, also gold, and nickel.

they plan to buy up to 10% of their stock back 1.6 billion 20 million shares.

they have over 5.3 billion in cash.
also plan 2-1 stock split.

some people have compared these base metal companies to the tech boom of the 90s.

the little difference is not many tech then or now traded below 8X earnings, generating billions in cash.

note: own SLF
have sold 76 puts on tck.b, also own large postion in tck.b
on half of the positons sold covered calls, (though wish did not do that today, limited upside on half of the positon.)

thanks
selkirk
 

DOGS THAT BARK

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Sun Life sure has been good to you Kirk. You had them quite a while. Used to write business for them and they were always 1st rate to customers and agents.
Have never owned many insurance stocks as hate to mingle investments with work--however do have stock in A F L A C INC (NYSE:AFL)
which was given to me indirectlly (opted for stock in lieu of commision).
It has done pretty well and their products are not subject to a lot of risk-- writing mostly indemnity products that have limited risk exposure. They have big market in Japan--and next year I believe banks there will be allowed to sell their products for 1st time--might be worth looking into.
 

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DTB Aflac is a good stock, and have been looking at it; should make 3.20 in 07 and around 3.70 in 08 per share. would not mind buying some if it went down 5-10% but then could say that about most stocks.

own MFC and slf as my main positions in insurance but AFL is a good way to play the industry also, like most companies with growing earings.

MFC
made 3.99 billion in 06 compared to 2.53 billion in 05.

Return on Equity improved to 16.8% from 14.1 %.
latest quarter made .70/share compared to a year ago .66/share.

trading at just under 16PE, the stock will probably sit here for awhile. however the company is growing earnings are 15% or better going forward, is well managed, and yields 1.98%.

some people in Cdn. argue about which one to own slf or mfc, well why not own both. chance are they will not be the worse stock in your portfolio.

note: mfc may sit at current levels, in the next 3-6 months, still a good stock going forward.

thanks
selkirk
 
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