so if auburn is overated...

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First of all, sorry about that slip up with the Big Ten. I meant to refer to the conference championship game as the OSU/Mich game.



You think Florida's toughest challenge is Florida State or hosting South Carolina? Hmm...well if we lose either of those games and its our only loss, we dont make the big game.

If USC loses to Notre Dame, they dont go to the big game. No chance at all, unless Florida or Auburn lose in the SEC title game.

Whoever wins the Mich/OSU game will be playing in the big game. Whichever team wins that has its fate in its hands, and if it fumbles against a non-ranked team at home...well, seems like college ball would just be pathetic.

WVU only has a chance if USC, Florida, Auburn, and Missouri lose a game. The Big East jumping an undefeated Pac 10, SEC, or Big 12 team? Unlikely, but I guess it could happen.

sorry I missed LSU/Auburn...I should have just said no way Florida goes undefeated with their schedule...and considering FL loss to SC last year...yeah I consider that to be a tough game
 

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Please, people are tired of the USC train.

More SEC fans will travel and book flights, hotels, rental cars, local eating, etc.

Now if you dont consider these in your business model, I think you're sadly mistaken. The NCAA absolutely considers traveling and economics in its decision. Gator Nation is one of the largest followings in college football, and Auburn has a rich history as well. Both "nations" have the alumni backing to travel and boost the local economy of the town hosting the national title game.

I just want to watch the rest of the season and see how realistic all of these arguments are in the next month. This topic shouldn't be discussed too much because everything is basically a far-fetched hypothetical.

Lets talk after October is over.

I agree the SEC travels...no agruement there...I didn't think the Pac-10 fans ever leave Cali...
 

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Undefeated SEC team will not get snubbed again!! Toughest conference with 4 top ten teams Nope!! Was a mistake 2 years ago and everyone realizes it now! You have your media darlings in weak conferences(USC and Pitiful pac 10), easy to see why they are media darlings no competition!! Then you have your real teams and strong conferences!! SEC being the best conference and full of 5 teams or 6 that could beat anyone. How many other conferences can say that? Pac-10 second best team(CAL) got drilled by the number 4-6 team in SEC(Tenn). I could go on and on but bottom line is SEC is the strongest conference in football period. Real football fans know this, they may not admit it but they know it!! Big problem of all this is will an SEC team go undefeated?? Hard to do unless you play in the Pac-10 or some other weak ass conference!!
 

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Undefeated SEC team will not get snubbed again!! Toughest conference with 4 top ten teams Nope!! Was a mistake 2 years ago and everyone realizes it now! You have your media darlings in weak conferences(USC and Pitiful pac 10), easy to see why they are media darlings no competition!! Then you have your real teams and strong conferences!! SEC being the best conference and full of 5 teams or 6 that could beat anyone. How many other conferences can say that? Pac-10 second best team(CAL) got drilled by the number 4-6 team in SEC(Tenn). I could go on and on but bottom line is SEC is the strongest conference in football period. Real football fans know this, they may not admit it but they know it!! Big problem of all this is will an SEC team go undefeated?? Hard to do unless you play in the Pac-10 or some other weak ass conference!!


I agree no way an undefeated SEC teams gets snubbed for an undefeated USC team...if that was to happen it would be the greatest crime in history...I would agree SEC is the elite conference this season...I thought otherwise last season and dlvlsu we already had the argument out :142smilie during the summer...

Bottom line we as the fans are getting screwed by not having a playoff...if we had any wits about us we would boycott the BCS bowls but that just unrealistic...I hate the current system...all this leads is to argument
 

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sorry I missed LSU/Auburn...I should have just said no way Florida goes undefeated with their schedule...and considering FL loss to SC last year...yeah I consider that to be a tough game

The SC game last year was fulllll of errors. While the play was close, and the teams both had great talent, the Gators are just flat out better this year. Chris Leak is looking sharp, nobody has stopped Tebow yet, Percy Harvin is a baller, and Dallas Baker is just plain sick.

Dont forget, we were injured for that SC game. So, unless we are hurting again, we should roll SC here in the Swamp.
 

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The SC game last year was fulllll of errors. While the play was close, and the teams both had great talent, the Gators are just flat out better this year. Chris Leak is looking sharp, nobody has stopped Tebow yet, Percy Harvin is a baller, and Dallas Baker is just plain sick.

Dont forget, we were injured for that SC game. So, unless we are hurting again, we should roll SC here in the Swamp.

Teabow is fawking awesome...what a recruit...personally I'm just not a fan of Leak...if Florida lose this year it will be his fault...

Your totally right...but Spurrier back in the Swamp doesn't make you a little nervous?
 

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We do need a playoff system but probably will never happen! Only then would the true champion be crowned all others till then are just paper champs or media darlings, etc Its a shame money etc ruins such a pure sport! Would love to see USC play Auburn-Florida-LSU three weeks in a row!(or ohio st for that matter) That would shut some of this nonsense up!! Thats what a real football team goes thru plus more in the SEC!!!
 

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I think Florida better worry about this weekend alot more than spurrier and south carolina!! :)
 

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Teabow is fawking awesome...what a recruit...personally I'm just not a fan of Leak...if Florida lose this year it will be his fault...

Your totally right...but Spurrier back in the Swamp doesn't make you a little nervous?

He has been back twice already since our season started, and received a pretty warm welcome...but come November 18th (I believe)...he wont be cheered for a single second. The Spurrier-loving-alumni got their fix. The students, however, dont have as much of a connection to Spurrier. I'm only a few years removed from Florida, but I still sit in the student section and my God can we get loud.

I'm not one bit afraid of So. Car.; I would take a ML bet against them right now if I could find it, but something tells me the lines aren't exactly ready yet :)
 

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We do need a playoff system but probably will never happen! Only then would the true champion be crowned all others till then are just paper champs or media darlings, etc Its a shame money etc ruins such a pure sport! Would love to see USC play Auburn-Florida-LSU three weeks in a row!(or ohio st for that matter) That would shut some of this nonsense up!! Thats what a real football team goes thru plus more in the SEC!!!

usc would go no worse than 2-1 during any 3-gm stretch again any three SEC teams. its amazing that you have the energy to type the same stuff day in and day out.

the sec is the best top to bottom football conference. but southern cal would do just fine in that conference. if you think otherwise, youre simply not being objective.
 

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We do need a playoff system but probably will never happen! Only then would the true champion be crowned all others till then are just paper champs or media darlings, etc Its a shame money etc ruins such a pure sport! Would love to see USC play Auburn-Florida-LSU three weeks in a row!(or ohio st for that matter) That would shut some of this nonsense up!! Thats what a real football team goes thru plus more in the SEC!!!

You make a very good point; USC might play a few ranked teams...but I want to see them play some tough defenses week in and week out that hit harder than any other conference and can pound the ball up the middle as well.

Teams in the SEC are much more prone to injury and dont have the luxury of recovering for three weeks from high ankle sprains, bruised sternums, and other small injuries that would put someone out for a week or two.
 

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usc would go no worse than 2-1 during any 3-gm stretch again any three SEC teams. its amazing that you have the energy to type the same stuff day in and day out.

the sec is the best top to bottom football conference. but southern cal would do just fine in that conference. if you think otherwise, youre simply not being objective.

Well, from an objective standpoint:
Schedule for Florida
09/02 v. Souther Miss
09/09 v. Central Florida
09/16 @ Tennessee (currently ranked 13)
09/23 v. Kentucky
09/30 v. Alabama
10/07 v. LSU (currently ranked 9th)
10/14 @ Auburn (currently ranked 2nd)
10/28 Georgia (currently ranked 10th) (neutral)
11/04 @ Vandy
11/11 v. South Carolina
11/18 v. Western Carolina
11/25 @ Florida State (currently ranked 17th)

At Tennessee (didnt they destroy Cal?), at Auburn (certinaly rolling), and at FSU (they dont look great, but its a huge rivalry and tensions are huuuge)?

Now, USC
Schedule of Southern California
09/02 @ Arkansas
09/16 v. Nebraska (currently ranked 19th)
09/23 @ Arizona
09/30 @ Washington St.
10/07 v. Washington
10/14 v. Arizona St.
10/28 @ Oregon St.
11/04 @ Stanford
11/11 v. Oregon (currently ranked 11th)
11/18 v. California (cuurently ranked 16th)
11/25 v. Notre Dame (currently ranked 12th)
12/02 @ UCLA

Wow, so USC has six away games...all un-ranked, and a few just down the street, while Florida travels to Tennessee (arguably one of the loudest stadiums on Earth), Auburn (dont get me started), and Florida State (the Doak gets rowdy as any stadium in America). Lets also not forget, the Georgia game is played on neutral territory. These are all huge rivalry games that go down in the books of history. USC/Cal is rich, USC/ND is rich, but both of those teams are so inconsistent and Cal usually ends up folding at the end of the year, and who knows where ND really is.

I honestly think the SEC opponents have shown their strengths, while the PAC10 is always just a small little mystery until USC plays them.

You honestly think USC could take on that schedule, and not suffer at least two losses (lets not forget, the SEC plays a conference championship game)?
 

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i couldnt care less about schedules. the top 5 in the sec certainly beat the top 5 in the pac-10. thats pretty much a given.

but usc simply is not a traditional west coast team.

they've shown the ability to adapt to big ten/sec football plenty of times over the last 3 or 4 years.
for some reason, many seem to overlook that. yet they've dominated physical teams like iowa, michigan, auburn, and arkansas. these are teams that line up and try to beat you up front. and usc smacked them right in the mouth.

a team like oregon wouldnt last long in the sec. theyre a good example of a west coast team waiting to get exposed.

but anyone arguing that southern cal couldnt contend for an sec champ-game berth every year is kidding themselves. people fail to realize theyre pulling a ton of kids from the midwest and east coast every year in recruiting. blue chip prospects from the east arent taking scholarships to oregon, cal, or ucla. theyre taking them to usc.
 

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Get a clue!! Geez!! Pac 10 sux and if USC played an SEC schedule every year they surely would not be in the top 10 any year!! You watch alot of Espn huh gman?? Those media darlings are so tough. NOT!!!!!!
 

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Wash st smacked USC in the mouth.
Wash St got smacked in the mouth and ass by AUBURN!! So whats your point?? PLAY 6-8 AUBURNS A YEAR AND USC GETS SMACKED IN THE MOUTH,ASS,ETC!!! GET A CLUE!!!
 

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Get a clue!! Geez!! Pac 10 sux and if USC played an SEC schedule every year they surely would not be in the top 10 any year!! You watch alot of Espn huh gman?? Those media darlings are so tough. NOT!!!!!!

funny thing is, the two coaches whom i have the most respect for in the country are steve spurrier and urban meyer. if theres one conference i watch more than any in the country, its probably the sec. its great football week in and week out. i dont have favorite teams like a lot of "fans" on this site, but if i had to pick one, it would be florida.

but youre kidding yourself if you think southern cal wouldnt contend for an sec championship every year.

do you even watch usc play? youre arguments and rebuttals are the same thing over and over "pac-10 sucks" ... "usc overrated".. yet you cant even identify what usc's strengths and weaknesses are
 

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the big 12 sucks this year.
... so i guess texas isn't a legitimate team right? :mj07:

who cares that the pac-10 is a generally weak conference.

the reality of it is that southern cal is a de facto east coast team.
 

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I am not saying USC isnt above average team. I am saying put them in the SEC and its a different story!!

Ask Florida St & miami what joining a decent conference will do for you!! Perfect point Do you understand now??

USC would be beaten alot more times in the SEC than the weak ass pac 10 and I stress alot more!!!
 

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I am not saying USC isnt above average team. I am saying put them in the SEC and its a different story!!

Ask Florida St & miami what joining a decent conference will do for you!! Perfect point Do you understand now??

USC would be beaten alot more times in the SEC than the weak ass pac 10 and I stress alot more!!!

uhhh, did florida state join a new conference that i was unaware of?

nobody is arguing that usc wouldnt go undefeated in the sec.

but are you seriously arguing that they wouldnt be contending for an sec championship every single year? how many teams from the sec and big ten do they have to buzzsaw before people recognize them as the "anti-west coast" west coast team (if you follow).
 
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