I completely agree; the boosters certainly spoil all of the athletes!! :mj07: :mj07: :142smilie :142smilie :scared :mj07:
So how are you going to feel when your National Title, along with dozens of wins, are stripped?
so if auburn is overated...
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I completely agree; the boosters certainly spoil all of the athletes!! :mj07: :mj07: :142smilie :142smilie :scared :mj07:
So how are you going to feel when your National Title, along with dozens of wins, are stripped?
Do you have any facts to back up your claims? Nothing is going to happen to USC unless you can prove USC did something wrong. USC has done nothing wrong. Stop being jealous of all the talent USC has recruited. Doesn't mean USC cheated.
Scott you are the biggest "PRICK" and "DUMBASS" in the world!!! USC hasnt done shit that a bunch of other teams have done in the past yet you act like they are best thing ever!! Shows what a true idiot you are!!! I also cant wait till they get their sorry asses beat and you dissappear till next year like all the notre dame numbnuts have done!! I have no problem with anyone loving their team or conference for that matter, but you take it to a level that is IGNORANT beyond believe!! You are the biggest Prick on the net!!
You sir, are incorrect.
See Michigan in the early 90s and their fab five basketball team. Michigan found out that its players were accepting money and in fear of harsher punishment, actually pulled its own banners.
If you think for a second that USC did not know that Reggie Bush's parents were living in an incredible house (coaches do visit players' parents' homes), then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you.
Here is my take on this all, after reading this thread for about 10 minutes.
SEC conference as a whole is a better conference than the pac10. But as Scott points out, Pac10 does play some tough games and has a tough OCC schedule.
Just a side note, does anyone know how Pac10 has done in the bowls ats? I think they went 1-4 last year.
Anyway, Gators4life, your new around here and some advice for you is to not argue with scott because he wont back down and you wont get anywhere, it will just amount to more smileys. Scott is a big time homer but he does have some good info on pac10 games and teams that has played SC, just take it with a huge grain of salt.
Scott im glad your back but why cant you let stuff slide?
And for DVLSU you are the biggest joke on this forum, all of your arguments are weak and involve insults. And I may not be able to pick winners this year but I sure know a loser when I see one, and you saying your a great handicapper, when was the last time you posted a play in the ncaa forums?
I wont look at this again, and I would advise all you to do the same. You each have made the same point 5 times over, and you will continue to argue and get more and more pissed at each other.
SEC conference as a whole is a better conference than the pac10. But as Scott points out, Pac10 does play some tough games and has a tough OCC schedule.
Just a side note, does anyone know how Pac10 has done in the bowls ats? I think they went 1-4 last year.
Anyway, Gators4life, your new around here and some advice for you is to not argue with scott because he wont back down and you wont get anywhere, it will just amount to more smileys. Scott is a big time homer but he does have some good info on pac10 games and teams that has played SC, just take it with a huge grain of salt.
Scott im glad your back but why cant you let stuff slide?
And for DVLSU you are the biggest joke on this forum, all of your arguments are weak and involve insults. And I may not be able to pick winners this year but I sure know a loser when I see one, and you saying your a great handicapper, when was the last time you posted a play in the ncaa forums?
I wont look at this again, and I would advise all you to do the same. You each have made the same point 5 times over, and you will continue to argue and get more and more pissed at each other.
blg atleast you know you sux!! Got to give you that one!! I am the biggest joke on a forum whoopee who gives a crap!! You either know what your doing or not!!! You know sports or not!! Most on here are in the not category!! Never said I was a great handicapper just said I win and thats the whole point!!
Wash. State's Doba knows about Auburn, Southern Cal
Wednesday, October 04, 2006
DOUG SEGREST
News staff writer
Bill Doba, USA Today coaches' poll voter, has an edge on his 62 peers.
Doba is the only coach around who has seen two of the nation's top three teams up close this fall.
"I can tell you this: I've got Auburn and Southern Cal in my top three," said Doba, Washington State's football coach. "I can also tell you I'm not going to say which team I ranked ahead of the other. Not until I have to."
Coaches' votes can be made public after the final vote of the regular season, in December.
While Doba's mum about his order, he's not mum about his assessments of Auburn and USC. Auburn, No.2 in the AP poll and No.3 in the coaches' poll, beat Washington State 40-14 Sept. 2 at Jordan-Hare Stadium.
USC (No.3 AP, No.2 coaches' poll) survived a visit to Washington State with a 28-22 victory Saturday.
"They're both good teams, but they're a little different," Doba said Tuesday. "I think Auburn's running game is better. Southern Cal has a slight edge in the passing game. The defenses are very similar. Both run to the ball very well and both have linebackers that are special."
In a candid phone interview, Doba broke the national title aspirants down:
Edges to Auburn - The Tigers have superior special teams, Doba said, adding the caveat: "Of course, USC doesn't kick off but once a game."
Punter Kody Blitz is a weapon with his ability to change field position. Running back Kenny Irons can dictate tempo and turn a game around.
Wash. State's Doba knows about Auburn, Southern Cal
And coach Tommy Tuberville has more lives than a tomcat.
"They've got a fourth-and-11 from their own 16 and he's calling a fake punt?" Doba said.
Washington State had narrowed Auburn's lead to 26-14 in the third quarter and seemingly stopped the Tigers on three downs on a critical possession. Out of punt formation, linebacker Will Herring took the direct snap and raced 42 yards for the first down.
"I told (Tuberville) afterward that I'd never forget that (call)," Doba said.
"Truly, I thought we played with Auburn for a while," he added. "There were a couple of plays that went against us late in the third quarter. On one, a kid missed an assignment on a screen pass when we had a chance to make it a five-point game."
Edges to USC - Doba likes Auburn quarterback Brandon Cox, noting the Trussville native is heady. But USC's John David Booty "always throws to the guy that's open, whether it's short or long. He takes what's there. He makes great decisions."
Another advantage for the Trojans is linebacker Rey Maluaga, "who's 6-foot-3, 250 pounds, runs sideline to sideline and can cover you deep."
USC played Washington State with two disadvantages. First, the Trojans played on the road. Second, they played without All-American wide receiver Dwayne Jarrett.
"I think that was to our advantage," Doba said. "But let me tell you, that (No.2 receiver) Steve Smith can play with anyone."
Smith had 11 catches for 186 yards and 2 TDs Saturday.
Doba said he would prefer that the coaches delay the voting until Oct. 1 because the preseason rankings are unfair to teams initially under the radar. He pointed to Michigan, which opened the season 15th in the USA Today poll and is now sixth, trailing Ohio State, USC, Auburn, West Virginia and Florida that began the preseason with higher rankings.
After Saturday, Doba won't be the lone coach able to compare Auburn and USC from personal experience. Houston Nutt brings Arkansas, a 50-14 loser to the Trojans on Sept. 2, to The Plain for an 11 a.m. CBS telecast
Wednesday, October 04, 2006
DOUG SEGREST
News staff writer
Bill Doba, USA Today coaches' poll voter, has an edge on his 62 peers.
Doba is the only coach around who has seen two of the nation's top three teams up close this fall.
"I can tell you this: I've got Auburn and Southern Cal in my top three," said Doba, Washington State's football coach. "I can also tell you I'm not going to say which team I ranked ahead of the other. Not until I have to."
Coaches' votes can be made public after the final vote of the regular season, in December.
While Doba's mum about his order, he's not mum about his assessments of Auburn and USC. Auburn, No.2 in the AP poll and No.3 in the coaches' poll, beat Washington State 40-14 Sept. 2 at Jordan-Hare Stadium.
USC (No.3 AP, No.2 coaches' poll) survived a visit to Washington State with a 28-22 victory Saturday.
"They're both good teams, but they're a little different," Doba said Tuesday. "I think Auburn's running game is better. Southern Cal has a slight edge in the passing game. The defenses are very similar. Both run to the ball very well and both have linebackers that are special."
In a candid phone interview, Doba broke the national title aspirants down:
Edges to Auburn - The Tigers have superior special teams, Doba said, adding the caveat: "Of course, USC doesn't kick off but once a game."
Punter Kody Blitz is a weapon with his ability to change field position. Running back Kenny Irons can dictate tempo and turn a game around.
Wash. State's Doba knows about Auburn, Southern Cal
And coach Tommy Tuberville has more lives than a tomcat.
"They've got a fourth-and-11 from their own 16 and he's calling a fake punt?" Doba said.
Washington State had narrowed Auburn's lead to 26-14 in the third quarter and seemingly stopped the Tigers on three downs on a critical possession. Out of punt formation, linebacker Will Herring took the direct snap and raced 42 yards for the first down.
"I told (Tuberville) afterward that I'd never forget that (call)," Doba said.
"Truly, I thought we played with Auburn for a while," he added. "There were a couple of plays that went against us late in the third quarter. On one, a kid missed an assignment on a screen pass when we had a chance to make it a five-point game."
Edges to USC - Doba likes Auburn quarterback Brandon Cox, noting the Trussville native is heady. But USC's John David Booty "always throws to the guy that's open, whether it's short or long. He takes what's there. He makes great decisions."
Another advantage for the Trojans is linebacker Rey Maluaga, "who's 6-foot-3, 250 pounds, runs sideline to sideline and can cover you deep."
USC played Washington State with two disadvantages. First, the Trojans played on the road. Second, they played without All-American wide receiver Dwayne Jarrett.
"I think that was to our advantage," Doba said. "But let me tell you, that (No.2 receiver) Steve Smith can play with anyone."
Smith had 11 catches for 186 yards and 2 TDs Saturday.
Doba said he would prefer that the coaches delay the voting until Oct. 1 because the preseason rankings are unfair to teams initially under the radar. He pointed to Michigan, which opened the season 15th in the USA Today poll and is now sixth, trailing Ohio State, USC, Auburn, West Virginia and Florida that began the preseason with higher rankings.
After Saturday, Doba won't be the lone coach able to compare Auburn and USC from personal experience. Houston Nutt brings Arkansas, a 50-14 loser to the Trojans on Sept. 2, to The Plain for an 11 a.m. CBS telecast
If you're a dimwit that only takes what Scott says at face value, sure! :mj07: :142smilie
He picked the easiest schedules from the SEC, and did not include the ranked opponents.:shrug: :shrug:
Nobody ever argued that Auburn, LSU, or Florida would destroy UCLA's schedule at this point; we simply stated that USC and like teams would have a very difficult time playing a Florida schedule, and that teams like Cal wouldnt stand a chance.:nono: :nono:
Scott tries his best to twist arguments, but I guess the people that want to see his side of the argument will ignore the logic that follows on the other side.:sadwave: :142smilie
Check out that use of smilies!
Wow, Im guessing by your need to name call that the answer is a resounding yes!
Im sitting on the sidelines & he really worked you over. Congrats!
Im sitting on the sidelines & he really worked you over. Congrats!
As I said you ether know sports or not and most on here are NOTS! Gators4life you can come on here everyday in any sport and if a majority say they are betting one certain team play the other side and guarantee you hit better than 75% no capping thinking or anything!! Thats how dumb these people are!!!
I give credit to a lot of people on here; I dont know them in real life so there's no reason to judge them by a few posts. But this Scott guy lacks the ability to analyze and think critically in the face of opposition.
I've shown this thread to a bunch of friends (SEC and non-SEC) and all of them are rolling after reading Scott's posts, especially his responses to mine.
I'm pretty much done with this thread. No reason to waste my valuable time on trying to convince a fanatic that the sky is blue.
You're truly an idiot... ND fans have disappeared? Um, 4-1 ranked 11th in the nation we will be just fine. Every time I read one of your posts I get a little dumber... Do any LSU fans make it pass the third grade?
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USC just might be on the best run ever. Show me a better 4 year run than PETE CARROLL @ USC? Scary part is Pete Carroll is just getting started. He is still @USC and dominating college football. PC has only coached @USC for 5 seasons. If he stays at USC fo 10+ years, he has chance to go down as the greatest head coach of all time. Lets see what he has accomplished in his short stint at USC! :scared
*Since 2002, USC has 52-4 record!!!!!! USC has won 52 of their last 56 games!!!!!!!!! USC has won 41 of their last 43 games!!!! In 2002 USC had the #1 Strength of schedule. Every year USC plays a highly ranked SOS and plays on the road!
*USC has been to 4 straight BCS bowl games and has 3-1 record with 3 straight BCS BLOWOUTS!
*USC has won 2 consecutive National Championships!
*USC had a 34 game win streak. During the streak, USC set the record for consecutive wins over ranked teams. Let me repeat that. USC HAS SET THE ALL TIME RECORD OF STRAIGHT WINS OVER RANKED OPPONENTS!
*USC had 3 Heisman Trophy winners. 3 different players!
*USC has only lost 1 game in the Pete Carroll era by double digits (13pt loss @ND in PC 1st year).
*USC I think has 50 something game streak of scoring at least 20pts. NCAA RECORD!
*USC has the nations longest home win streak. 2001 was the last year USC lost a home game.
*USC has dominated opponents with an average winning margin in double figures.
*3 of the last 4 years USC has had the #1 rated recruiting class.
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CASE CLOSED!
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USA Today computer czar Jeff Sagarin released his weekly conference ratings and had the Pac-10 ranked ?
? Last?
Nope.
First.
Sagarin rates the Big Ten second followed by the SEC, which is considered by many the nation's top conference this year.
The SEC has five teams ranked in the top 15 in this week's Associated Press poll; the Pac-10 has three in the top 16.
The rankings were not accidentally logged upside down, Sagarin confirmed in an e-mail.
And it's not just Sagarin. The Pac-10 also ranks first in Anderson & Hester's system and the Massey Ratings ? that's half of the computers used in the Bowl Championship Series formula. Sagarin's point is that you have to look at conference strength top to bottom. The Pac-10 has fewer lousy teams than the SEC, which is being dragged down by ankle weights Vanderbilt, Mississippi, Mississippi State and Kentucky.The Pac-10 also played a more challenging nonconference schedule than most conferences.
this was in the LOS ANGELES TIMES, i cut n' paste.
? Last?
Nope.
First.
Sagarin rates the Big Ten second followed by the SEC, which is considered by many the nation's top conference this year.
The SEC has five teams ranked in the top 15 in this week's Associated Press poll; the Pac-10 has three in the top 16.
The rankings were not accidentally logged upside down, Sagarin confirmed in an e-mail.
And it's not just Sagarin. The Pac-10 also ranks first in Anderson & Hester's system and the Massey Ratings ? that's half of the computers used in the Bowl Championship Series formula. Sagarin's point is that you have to look at conference strength top to bottom. The Pac-10 has fewer lousy teams than the SEC, which is being dragged down by ankle weights Vanderbilt, Mississippi, Mississippi State and Kentucky.The Pac-10 also played a more challenging nonconference schedule than most conferences.
this was in the LOS ANGELES TIMES, i cut n' paste.
Anybody watching College Gameday?
Kirk Herbstreet: Florida's schedule should be illegal
Lee Corso: If Florida wins today, they will have beaten Tennessee, Alabama, and LSU within four weeks. Any team that can do that will be number two in my book no matter what anybody thinks, no matter what Auburn, USC, or WVU do today.
Chris Fowler: SEC Football is the hardest conference in the nation, barnone. Nobody plays football like anybody in the South; the South does it the best. If the Gators can win today, I think they're number one! If anybody in the SEC runs the table, they should be assured of a national title game no matter what the rest of the nation looks like.
Don't try to tell me they said that because they're in front of the Swamp; its the TRUTH!:nono:
If these three agree with me, then I...rest...my...case.:mj06: :mj06:
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Oh, and I love it, Cal is the best PAC10 team!!! I love how they slipped the fact that Tennessee DESTROYED Cal.:142smilie
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Kirk Herbstreet: Florida's schedule should be illegal
Lee Corso: If Florida wins today, they will have beaten Tennessee, Alabama, and LSU within four weeks. Any team that can do that will be number two in my book no matter what anybody thinks, no matter what Auburn, USC, or WVU do today.
Chris Fowler: SEC Football is the hardest conference in the nation, barnone. Nobody plays football like anybody in the South; the South does it the best. If the Gators can win today, I think they're number one! If anybody in the SEC runs the table, they should be assured of a national title game no matter what the rest of the nation looks like.
Don't try to tell me they said that because they're in front of the Swamp; its the TRUTH!:nono:
If these three agree with me, then I...rest...my...case.:mj06: :mj06:
:mj122: :em71:
Oh, and I love it, Cal is the best PAC10 team!!! I love how they slipped the fact that Tennessee DESTROYED Cal.:142smilie
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Yeah... That Lee Corso sure knows his football... LOL
Johnny - Please don't try an use logical sense, SEC fans won't comprehend....
Cal is the best team in the PAC???? You base this on???
