So, what will be Obama's "RED LINE" when>>>>
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Rand Paul's noninterventionist foreign policy views aren't currying him any favor with conservative pundits, who have recently attacked the Kentucky senator and possible 2016 presidential candidate as naive and immature.
Earlier this month, Mother Jones surfaced a 2009 video of the Republican speaking to a student group at Western Kentucky University prior to announcing his Senate candidacy. In his remarks, Paul alleged that former Vice President Dick Cheney had his own financial gain in mind when he pushed for the Iraq War after 9/11.
"Dick Cheney then goes to work for Halliburton. Makes hundreds of millions of dollars -- their CEO. Next thing you know, he's back in government, it's a good idea to go into Iraq," Paul said.
The charge isn't sitting well with some conservatives.
In a Monday op-ed, Wall Street Journal columnist Bret Stephens offers the tongue-in-cheek suggestion that Paul is the perfect candidate for the GOP in 2016 -- "because maybe what the GOP needs is another humbling landslide defeat."
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Hey Rand
dont take war away
dont take away billions from military
dont take away hawks flying around looking for a new war
thats the GOP way
Earlier this month, Mother Jones surfaced a 2009 video of the Republican speaking to a student group at Western Kentucky University prior to announcing his Senate candidacy. In his remarks, Paul alleged that former Vice President Dick Cheney had his own financial gain in mind when he pushed for the Iraq War after 9/11.
"Dick Cheney then goes to work for Halliburton. Makes hundreds of millions of dollars -- their CEO. Next thing you know, he's back in government, it's a good idea to go into Iraq," Paul said.
The charge isn't sitting well with some conservatives.
In a Monday op-ed, Wall Street Journal columnist Bret Stephens offers the tongue-in-cheek suggestion that Paul is the perfect candidate for the GOP in 2016 -- "because maybe what the GOP needs is another humbling landslide defeat."
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:mj07::mj07:
Hey Rand
dont take war away
dont take away billions from military
dont take away hawks flying around looking for a new war
thats the GOP way
The GOP way?
I guess you have forgotten about LBJ and Vietnam ?
It's The American Way !!
Fuck Yeah!
I'll bitch because you are a whiny fucking bitch.
Here ya go, Duff:
The Taiwan Relations Act potentially requires the U.S. to intervene militarily if the PRC attacks or invades Taiwan. The act states that "the United States will make available to Taiwan such defense articles and defense services in such quantity as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capabilities?. However, the decision about the nature and quantity of defense services that America will provide to Taiwan is to be determined by the President and Congress. America's policy has been called "strategic ambiguity" and it is designed to dissuade Taiwan from a unilateral declaration of independence, and to dissuade the PRC from unilaterally unifying Taiwan with the PRC.
The act further stipulates that the United States will "consider any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means, including by boycotts or embargoes, a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and of grave concern to the United States".
This act also requires the United States "to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character", and "to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan." Successive U.S. administrations have sold arms to Taiwan in compliance with the Taiwan Relations Act despite demands from the PRC that the U.S. follow the legally non-binding Three Joint Communiques and the U.S. government's proclaimed One-China policy (which differs from the PRC's One-China Policy)
Putin messed with Ukraine because of the Olympics - oh, shit - did I really say that? It was because of the Olympics, right, Scott???? He will continue to mess around in the Ukraine and sign economic deals with China because no one is afraid of Obama. China will mess around with Japan or Taiwan for the same reason.
Here ya go, Duff:
The Taiwan Relations Act potentially requires the U.S. to intervene militarily if the PRC attacks or invades Taiwan. The act states that "the United States will make available to Taiwan such defense articles and defense services in such quantity as may be necessary to enable Taiwan to maintain a sufficient self-defense capabilities?. However, the decision about the nature and quantity of defense services that America will provide to Taiwan is to be determined by the President and Congress. America's policy has been called "strategic ambiguity" and it is designed to dissuade Taiwan from a unilateral declaration of independence, and to dissuade the PRC from unilaterally unifying Taiwan with the PRC.
The act further stipulates that the United States will "consider any effort to determine the future of Taiwan by other than peaceful means, including by boycotts or embargoes, a threat to the peace and security of the Western Pacific area and of grave concern to the United States".
This act also requires the United States "to provide Taiwan with arms of a defensive character", and "to maintain the capacity of the United States to resist any resort to force or other forms of coercion that would jeopardize the security, or the social or economic system, of the people on Taiwan." Successive U.S. administrations have sold arms to Taiwan in compliance with the Taiwan Relations Act despite demands from the PRC that the U.S. follow the legally non-binding Three Joint Communiques and the U.S. government's proclaimed One-China policy (which differs from the PRC's One-China Policy)
Putin messed with Ukraine because of the Olympics - oh, shit - did I really say that? It was because of the Olympics, right, Scott???? He will continue to mess around in the Ukraine and sign economic deals with China because no one is afraid of Obama. China will mess around with Japan or Taiwan for the same reason.
If you bothered to read that cut-and-paste, you will note sufficient weasel words and phrases to let us out of any binding military obligation. For the past 30 years we no longer have an Embassy on Taiwan, nor any military personnel there, nor do we still supply them with arms. 30 years ago they were already building their own fighter-bombers, at that time F-104s, all from local content. They don't say what they are building now, but they have the technology and financial resources to build virtually anything.
I spent several years in Taiwan in the mid-seventies as we were pulling our diplomatic and military personnel out, and I can assure you the Taiwanese are armed to the teeth. They have some number, maybe a half dozen back then, perhaps more now, nuclear weapons and the means to deliver them to major coastal mainland cities.
Of course they could not defeat the mainland Chinese, but for the few hours or days they could last, they could inflict catastrophic damage on the mainland.
They don't, and never will, need our help to hold off the mainland Chinese.
All concerned: we, mainland China and Taiwan deny they ever constructed any nuclear weapons. Don't believe it. In 1975 when I was there one of my close friends, an Aussie employed by EBASCO was constructing the uranium enrichment plant under the guise of an electric generating plant.
