Spider Man Under 72.5

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Opening weekend Spider Man u72.5 Million @ WSEX.

72 is a monstrous weekend. This movie opens next weekend (may 3-5), *before* Memorial Day which is the unofficial start of summer movies.

"Scorpion King" set an April opening weekend record with about 40 M last weekend. I can't imagine early May is much better, and you're still talking about a 75% increase over THAT, probably drawing from a similar crowd.

It's getting lots and lots of advertising, but I don't know if Tobey McGuire (sp?) has the kind of name that opens a movie at 70m.

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Be very careful with this one. Mummy Returns opened first weekend of May last year with something like 67 or so. Mummy had terrible reviews, this has positive reviews.

WSEX is not stupid. I would think in putting up a number like that they are looking to lure under bettors. Remember what the openings were for Harry Potter and the like. This will draw all ages and all types of people. Good luck with your bet, though.
 

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My Spidey Sense is tingling...

My Spidey Sense is tingling...

All true what you guys said. Maybe a little worrisome. However...

One difference, Nick, is that "Mummy Returns" was a sequel to a 200M dollar movie so it's got a crap load of dough right there. Not many people can name too much that Maguire (corrected spelling) and Dunst have been in but people could tell you several movies that Brandon Fraser had been in, not to mentiion the drawing power of "The Rock". Maguire big movies have been "Ciderhouse Rules" (watchable), "The Ice Storm" (very good) and "Wonder Boys" (good).

All fine movies, but again, I question whether he can open this movie that big. Maybe I'm overestimating the actor's effect on the box.

Anyway, for a silly half-unit bet I've done way too much writing about this.

Thanks for the feedback. GL if you "play" it.

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Just read this from Variety. May not mean anything but it might be good to look at before betting on Spiderman. Good luck.

By Carl DiOrio

HOLLYWOOD (Variety) - Oh, the web of intrigue.

So high are expectations for Sony's weekend bow of "Spider-Man," it's considered a foregone conclusion the comic-inspired actioner will easily break the $68.1 million frame record set by Universal's "The Mummy Returns" last year.

The big question is by how much.

Exhibitor support is enormous, with Spider-Man" unspooling in an amazing 3,615 theaters on a rumored 7,500 screens through double- and triple-booking in some venues. (Distributors confirm only playdates and not print runs.)

Warner Bros.' "Harry Potter (news - web sites) and the Sorcerer's Stone" -- which bowed with a record 3,672 theaters and 8,100 screens in November -- set an all-time record for a three-day opening at $90.3 million. Few believe that mark's in any peril of falling, but almost anything up to that number is conceivable for "Spidey."

"It will be hard to beat 'Mummy Returns' by much," said one industryite. But after further musings on the subject he added, "I don't see it doing more than in the low 80s."

Such an opening would represent a staggering $25 million-$30 million take per day over the opening frame. Only a handful of pictures have ever done north of $25 million on any one day, so it's small wonder Sony execs are eager to rein in over-enthusiastic "Spidey" projections.

After all, no one wants to become the next "Pearl Harbor." Pre-release hopes for the Disney war epic ran so high that "Harbor" somehow became perceived as an underperformer even while sailing to more than $450 million in worldwide box office.

"Nobody ever wants to make any predictions in this business that turn success into failure, so I won't even try," Sony marketing and distribution president Jeff Blake said. "We're certainly aware of the fact 'The Mummy Returns' threw off one of the biggest openings ever on the same date last year, and we'd like to be in that ballpark or better."

Regardless of how high such market penetration allows "Spidey" box office to creep, it appears the studio is positioned to reap ample benefits from finally delivering a movie based on the iconic comic book hero. For more than a decade, studios have fought legal and logistical battles over rights to the Marvel Comics property.

The contest to claim movie rights to the comic character was complicated by Marvel Entertainment's contentious bankruptcy proceedings and related boardroom warfare. That soap opera eventually turned off wannabe "Spider-Man" helmer James Cameron, who had penned a detailed "Spidey" script treatment and mentioned Leonardo DiCaprio as a possible topliner.

After such an arduous development arc, the "Spidey" fan base appears heartened that early word from critics is Sony's delivered a picture reasonably viable creatively as well as commercially. In an interesting twist, early swipes at Tobey Maguire's casting in the title role have morphed into kudos for his mild-mannered take on the character.

The sole potential drag on the picture's ultimate box office is its PG-13 rating, based on a couple of action scenes perhaps a tad violent for the youngest "Spider-Man" wannasees.

Meanwhile, a couple other wide releases will try to peck at "Spidey" table scraps this weekend. DreamWorks unspools Woody Allen's "Hollywood Ending" in a barely wide 765 theaters Friday. Most observers figure the romancer, which targets older femmes, will woo box office in the low single-digit millions.

"It's counterprogramming," DreamWorks distribution president Jim Tharp said. "We think we'll certainly attract a different kind of audience than 'Spider-Man."'

Tharp added the distributor hopes bow will prove only the beginning for "Ending."

"There are not a lot of movies that will compete with our core audience over the next few weeks," Tharp reasoned.

MGM's "Deuces Wild" -- a tough-neighborhood drama prominently featuring Matt Dillon in a young ensemble cast -- targets male and female young adults, but "we're not trying to compete with 'Spider-Man,"' studio marketing and distribution president Bob Levin stressed. The modestly budgeted picture has been moved around the distributor's release calendar a couple of times before landing in its present slot.

"We have modest expectations, but we expect to make money on the film," Levin said. "Deuces," which appears headed for a bow in mid single-digit millions, deals to 1,480 theaters on Friday.

A handful of specialty pictures will see limited openings this weekend. Among them: Thinkfilm's Ismael Merchant-helmed "The Mystic Masseur," IFC Films' laffer "The Chateau" and New Yorker documentary "ABC Africa."
 

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Nick Douglas said:
Just read this from Variety. May not mean anything but it might be good to look at before betting on Spiderman. Good luck.


Well, it's too late for reconsiderations. Not only did I bet on it, I got it at a terrible price that I thought would get worse so I took it early (-120). Still, 7500 screens is hard to compete with, but that translates to almost 10K per screen average. A mammoth number, to be sure, but "Harry Potter" did about 11K per screen and I don't see this getting that "core" group that will absolutely see it, nor the age-group crossover.

If my last couple of days of sports betting are any indication, Sunday will go into overtime and the Monday box will be counted too. :)

You've done well to shake my confidence, but I'm not ready to buy it back yet.
 

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And just to confirm how bad my bet really was, it is now u75M +160. I might get on that, too.
 

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The price on Star Wars going over $92 M has dropped considerably in the last 24 hours, from -230 to -140. Anyone know why?
 

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Durwood, here's why....:mad: I've already a large amount on over 90M but will back it now on the under (+130 at WSEX now...)

Within a week from the opening,it has been confirmed that there is a fight between distributors and Fox vs Owners of theaters. Instead of the 6000 screens projected for the opening weekend, just 2000 at the time i'm writing this will be "reserve" for star wars...:eek: Reasons are distributors and Fox ask too much :director: ( 70% of revenues for the opening weekend, biggest screens of each theaters have to show Star Wars for 8 to 12 weeks and so on...) and now owners are saying :gf: to them! Only big cities have some deals like here in my province, Montreal and Quebec city should get some screens but not the rest of us !!! It seems it is like this across Canada and USA so big markets will be fine but all smaller cities....:(

Stupid to see that when big shots are too hungry they find themselves alone... They are shooting themselves on the foot. Hopefully some last minute deals will be conclude to let us see the movie wherever we are but it doesn't look good so far...:(

Won't wait any longer, i'm buying back my wager....:mad:
 

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"the bunker"
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also

george lucas refuses to put wars into many non-digital theatres(which screws many small towns)......spiderman opened at almost 1000 more screens than star wars will.
 
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