Ted Williams son wants to freeze hall of fame father for cloning

ottsie777

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July 6 th, 2002

A day after the death of baseball great Ted Williams, a dispute has already arisen over what to do with his body, as Williams? estranged daughter says her half-brother plans to freeze the Hall of Famer?s body ? possibly in hopes of selling his DNA in the future for cloning purposes.

Bobby Jo Williams Ferrell, Ted Williams?s oldest child, told the Boston Globe and Boston Herald that such a decision would go against Williams? wishes to be cremated.

?I?ve been quiet. I didn?t want to make waves. I want everybody to know now what?s been going on,? Ferrell told the Herald. ?I?m going to try to get a restraining order.?

Ferrell says her half-brother John Henry Williams plans to cryogenically freeze their father?s body and preserve his DNA. She said John Henry first brought up cryogenics after Williams? open-heart surgery in 2001.

?He said the way they?re going with medical science and DNA, we could freeze dad?s body, or we can freeze his head,? Ferrell said. ?He said, we could sell the DNA.

?I told him (Dad?s) against cryogenics. It is very immoral. I said I was against it and I would stand against it.?
The Herald, citing a source close to Ted Williams, confirmed that John Henry is interested in cryogenics and has discussed plans for preserving his father?s remains.

John Henry Williams did not return messages from the Associated Press or either newspaper on Saturday.

Ted Williams? attorney Eric Abel refused to confirm or deny any talk of cryogenics. He called the idea of selling DNA or cloning an ?absurd proposition.?

?The Williams family members are in a period of great grieving,? Abel said. ?It is unfortunate that Barbara Joyce Ferrell has taken this moment to grab headlines.?

Ferrell told the Globe that John Henry had approached her last year about possibly freezing the slugger?s body at the Arizona-based Alcor Life Extension Foundation, which has frozen 49 bodies. Ferrell?s husband, Mark, said John Henry said that Alcor would freeze Williams? head for around $50,000.

Ferrell said she learned from a friend in the hospital where Williams died that John Henry Williams had gone ahead with the freezing plan.

?She told me my father died, and they were freezing him and pumping him full of blood thinners. I knew right away what it was,? Ferrell told the Globe. ?He?s just trying to make money off Daddy.?

?Some people believe in this,? Dr. Robert Lanza, chief scientific officer for Advanced Cell Technology, a pioneer cloning company in Worcester told the Globe. ?You can freeze tissues and organs, but we don?t have the technology to thaw those organs out without severe damage.

The hope is by some day in the future they will have the technology.
?It?s not something I would personally endorse, but to each his own,? said Lanza.

Abel said no funeral services have been planned for Williams, who died Friday at the age of 83.
 

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This proves some people dont care what they do if they can make $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

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You guys don't think she's lying to get some press???? I can't be the only one who thinks she's just jealous of the rest of the family being in the spotlight. Sounds like 100% rubbish to me -- what a dumb bitch to disrespect anyone like that, much less her own father, regardless of how their relationship was when both living.
 

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I dont want to hear one word of support for John Henry, this guy is an absolute prick. Back in the All Star game, you want to know why Ted wasnt wearing his uniform? Because his prick son told him to wear a hitter.net hat to support his failed venture. Then he told his dad to get him a tryout with the Sox even though he is pathetic and only got the tryout because Ted made a few calls.

Read the history on this guy, its not a one time occurence. Read Bob Ryans article this morning in the Globe.

http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/188/sports/Once_again_his_son_is_not_shining+.shtml

This guy is a cancer on the human race and I hope he rots in hell.
 
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Agree 100% with acehistr8- John Henry has used his Dad for years...this latest one is unbelievable.
 
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Interesting. I didn't know the history and when I read the other article , it calls the daughter the 'estranged daughter' so I figured she was the one doing the lying.

That's pretty poor. Thanks for the info and clarification.
 
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i retract my previous comments and direct them to him, now that I understand the situation.
 

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Anybody that would say these things about his dad less then 24 hours after his death needs help.

Quotes from the son

?He said the way they?re going with medical science and DNA, we could freez dad?s body, or we can freeze his head we could sell the DNA.


Ferrell said she learned from a friend in the hospital where Williams died that John Henry Williams had gone ahead with the freezing plan.

?She told me my father died, and they were freezing him and pumping him full of blood thinners. I knew right away what it was,He?s just trying to make money off Daddy.?
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Makes ya wanna throw up
 

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BEING FROM BOSTON I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THIS "KIDS" ANTICS...HE IS A SLIMEBALL....PLAIN AND SIMPLE...COOZ
 

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Cloning? Well maybe not because of baseball. But we sure could use a bunch of Great American such as he was to his country. Voluntered I understand for both WW II and Korea. Don't get me wrong folks. But if there was ever a good reason this would be it. If Ever?
 

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There is no way this should be allowed. Teddy should be laid to rest peacfully exactly as he wanted it.

For those that didnt follow his career closely, understand he interupted a Hall of Fame career not once, but TWICE, to serve in the Marines. Can you imagine a ballplayer doing that today?

And he got shot down over Korea. His wingman for most of that war? None other than John Glenn.

RIP Splendid Splinter.
 

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Just when you think that you've heard everything,a story like this comes along.This is really disgusting & completely classless.Ironic since Williams was all class.
 

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This idea of freezing him is completley wrong for a human. This is like what we do with thoroughbreds.
 

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AR182 said:
Just when you think that you've heard everything,a story like this comes along.This is really disgusting & completely classless.Ironic since Williams was all class.

Not so. Here are two paragraphs from a USAToday article about him:

BEGIN.
Genius often doesn't know patience. And so it was with the man who seemed to instinctively know more about creaming a baseball than any player who ever lived. High strung, thin-skinned and annoyingly self-possessed, hurling bats as well as invectives, he forever was at odds with those who wanted to analyze, or even appreciate, his brilliance. If Joe DiMaggio was beloved for his icy elegance, the equally private Theodore Samuel Williams was positively bedeviled by the very magnitude of his own magnificence. Genius doesn't need confirmation.

Following his rookie season, Williams' brassiness began to trip him up. His teammates and fans began to take notice of his apparent selfishness. "Teddy is a spoiled boy," said Jimmie Foxx. The boo-birds had a field day. It was during that time he stopped doffing his cap in acknowledgement of the fans' gratitude. He was splendid, yes, but he was scorned, too. Two military tours of duty as a fighter pilot left him respected, but no more beloved.
END.

I remember when he was being honored at Fenway a few years back and he didn't even wear a Sox cap, but rather the cap of some company he was shilling for. He tipped that cap all right...to get the logo closer to the camera lens.

If his son is using the name of Ted Williams to make money, it was something he learned from the old man.

Keep in mind those tours of duty were after he protested his 1-A status. To be honest, it was, by most accounts, a justified protest.
 

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Thought occurred here on this sick mess.....why would there ever be a market for the "DNA market" since we are already seeing evidence of Ted's living offspring (John Henry) being almost like the product of Young Frankenstein's "abnormal brain" scene.

This whole scenario is very upsetting and the Red Sox are truly squirming on how to handle this sensitive time. The family situation and the events connected with his death are so bizarre.


I just hope his memory endures and is not tainted by this week's shenanigan's of John Hnery. :(
 

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If John Henry is any indication of Ted's DNA, I think the world would be better off without any continuation of the breed!
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Well said VaNurse.I heard the son doesn't like the publicity his father is getting & may change his mind about Ted being frozen.
 
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