Thats it from me....Goodbye

crookycymru

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Been posting here at Madjacks for about two years now, and hope that many have profited from my picks.

However, when it comes to a stage that another member is threatning legal action, just because I spoke what I believe to be the truth about another member, means this has gone too far.

I will be happy to e-mail anybody who is interested in getting my rugby and snooker stuff on a weekly basis, but I am done here. I do not need the hassle of having this guy constantly e-mailing me up to three times a week, informing me what he and his solicitor are doing.

I have sent several e-mails to British Bulldog requesting that we leave it at what we both had to say during the Rugby World Cup thread....I have even put him on ignore so that any posts made by British Bulldog are not viewable to me. However, I am still getting these e-mails weekly from him carrying threats, and have decided that my time is better spent elsewhere. I have e-mailed Jack without reply as yet, although I realise he is often busy.

He now accuses me of e-mailing several members of the site about the issue, while in reality I have discussed this with Kickserv and Madjack only, who I e-mailed asking to close the original thread when it all happened. I replied to Kickserv only as a response to a e-mail he sent me asking about the issue. I hope Kyle can vouch for me here on that one.

Want to thanks everybody for their help in this forum, but enough is enough for me. I have tried enough times to settle this away from the forums. When you get people with the character British Bulldog is displaying during this episode lurking around forum sites, it really makes you wonder, what peoples motives really are in joining this site in the first place.

Hope all continue to have a profitable betting career, and hope to speak to some of you by e-mail in the future.

All The Best!! :) :toast:

CrookyCymru
 

cameroncrazie

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British Bulldog - I know you and Crooky have had your differences in the past but let it go. I was not aware that you were constantly emailing him and threatening legal action. What are you claiming? Slander? A bogus claim if I've ever seen one. You dished it out as much as Crooky. Maybe Crooky should look into a charge of harrassment and stalking against you. It is fun to give each other a hard time on the forum and fights do break out but everyone has the maturity to leave it at that. No one emails each other every week with threats and bluffs. I don't know you or Crooky personally but that is the way I see it. All you have accomplished is driving away a valued member of the board.

Now grow up and let it go.
 

british bulldog

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Cameroncrazie, slunder is a serious matter and so are fraudalant acts. Gareth says he knows for a fact how much I stake. Well, how does he know? I told him one sum and he says its not that. Must have acess to my accounts then ????????


Here is a copy of the message I just posted in "general discussion"


This is in reply and I hope the matter is put to rest once I have your appology.


Firstly, it had been several weeks since you made serious aquasations against me that I went back to post in "off the wall".

Within 10 minutes of posting I receive an e-mail from you Gareth (which had been the first communication between us in several weeks) which you started off with this;

"How about you stay the f**k out of my threads??? I warned you over a month ago, and after some piece and quiet you come into my thread."

Now you say in this e-mail "after some piece and quiet" yet in your thread above you say "I am still getting these e-mails weekly from him carrying threats".

MAKE YOUR MIND UP. Which one is it? Well let me tell you. I have not e-mailed you in over three weeks until I replied to your e-mail to me yesterday. Stop lying Gareth. You even stated in your e-mail to me that we haven't communicated for several weeks yet you say I constanly hassle you.

You then continue between ramblings in your e-mail and ask me;
"Once again I ask you to stay out...I dont want any communication with you what so ever."

So I reply to you here, if you don't want any communication why e-mail me in the first place.


Now I will point out that another member said much the same to you, saying if you don't want it dished back up why re-raise it in the first matter.


I replied to your e-mail

"You clearly want to carry this on. Oh, and in case you didn't realise, the forum is for members and as I am a member that allows me to post where ever and when ever I like. Until such time that I am informed by Jack or an administrator not to do so I will continue to post what I like. If your not happy with that then may I suggest you leave the site."


Then for someone who doesn't want to carry it on I get another e-mail from you with the following comments;

"If I am guilty of anything, then it is bringing this rubbish up in the forums and not by e-mailing you direct".

"If you believe that my accusations are incorrect, then so be it, but this is a nation of free speech, and I will say as I feel."

"I am asking you to keep your comments to yourself. Had you done so in the first place, we would not be having this argument now."


Now I find the last quote from you laughable. You say your entitled to free speech yet ask me to keep my comments to myself. Also you said if I had kept my comments to my self in the first place.

Let me tell you again, you first came in to a thread and said I did not stake the amount on my bets personnally that I say I do here on this site. I asked you for proof, because you would only know how much I stake by either having access to my bookmaking accounts or by hacking into my computer. Both are law breaking acts. I request this proof so that is why legal action is being taken. All you have to do is come on here and say you don't have proof, you only assume. By not saying that then I must take it that you have access to some of my accounts.

Let me point out that if I play a game for ?500 I may have to play the wager at several books because when you are a consistant winner limits are placed on you.

I also said in my mailing to you "I don't think it is insensative to take you, or anyone to court for that matter. You called me a fraud (worse than Nick Leeson), you called me a liar. That is defamation of my character and if a Newspaper had printed similar to what you wrote without proof to support allegations then they too would expect to be taken to Court and pay substantial damages."

I further went on to say

"I don't want e-mails to be sent to put matters to bed. You made public statements about my character so I expect I public appology. And until that is forthcoming I will continue to gather evidence for my solicitor. You go on about free speech in one breath and then in the other "if I had kept my comments to myself then we would not be having this argument now". So I see, it's fine for you to post and say what you like about me, yet I am to keep my comments to myself".

"I value your opinion in the sports you cover. It takes guts to get up there and say what you think regarding an outcome knowing that others are following your recommendations".

"If you want all this to stop it is simple. Go onto the thread and appologise to me for all your comments made saying you were wrong to say them because you have no poof to support your comments. I will let you into a secret, by god you are so wrong in what you wrote about me and if you do not take the action I suggested above, then I am sorry for you and I will see you in Court so you have the privaledge to see what a fool you have been".

"Think about all that I have said. The ball is in your court. Without a public appology in the forum I will continue to pursue this matter via the court".




Now it really is that simple. Grow up and admit that you are wrong. I don't want to see you leave the site. Your game analysis is good, and your results in rugby have stood the test of time. I just feel that you should not go around brandishing comments about how much I stake when it is 99% certain that you have not one shread of evidence and also comments and accuse me of posting late plays. I have posted my plays here for 14 months and not once has a play been posted late.

I post in the community pages that Jack kindly supplied to me because that is what they are there for. I don't have to post my plays in the forum. I can choose to do that as and when I wish. If I post plays in several sports, then instead of some members here (that follows my plays) having to go through each forum to find them, they are all nicely presented in several pages of the community pages. I really cannot see what your problem is. You should not make comments that are damaging to others without proof. You never know when its likely to bite you back.
 

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I don't want to take sides but this all sounds like BS. Geez, if I sued everyone that called me a bad name............you get the point. You were both dishing it out........at first it was a little bit humourous but now its ridiculous. If you can't say something nice, say nothing.

Crooky, you can't leave..........I have mouths to feed! Hell if it is that important I'll apologise to BOTH of you. I hope you reconsider and hopefully resolve the situation.
 

british bulldog

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Crookycymru (Gareth), your apologies are accepted from the General forum. Stick your address in the mail to me and I will send you drink money for a Christmas and New Years drink on me and my family.

Can't meet up with you as in between moving home. Exchanged contracts Tuesday just gone, so it's start of pack up boxes time. As I said I don't want you to leave the site as you are a solid capper. That's not just posted here, I have said it to you in numerous e-mails between us over many months.
 

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Crooky

I don't post here regularly, but have enjoyed and profited from yorur insight into rugby, and more lately, snooker.
I am sad you have taken the decision you have - But one of the reasons I visit this site is that it is largely devoid of personalised crap- once you start to engage in that, you are on a slippery slope. I, therefore do understand your reasons but urge you to reconsider.

In the meantime, I tried to send you a private e-mail but apparently 'this function has been disabled by the administrator' -
I would like to get your analysis by e-mail, but don't now know how to contact you. Please help
 
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