The Open
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Have to like Brandon grace after castle Stuart at weekend, tighter fairways and more punishing rough will suit him better than mickelson, and with Billy foster still on the bag, he's a snip for a top 5.
66/1 generally available
Fall back on stenson at 45/1 only a loss of focus on the back nine sunday made the Tour's best driver lose out to mickelson. He will bounce back at miuirfield.
66/1 generally available
Fall back on stenson at 45/1 only a loss of focus on the back nine sunday made the Tour's best driver lose out to mickelson. He will bounce back at miuirfield.
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To win:
Day +3250 (3)
Snedeker +4050 (2)
D. Johnson +4050 (2)
Stenson +3250 (2)
Grace +6550 (1)
Bradley +12550 (0.5)
Haas +12550 (0.5)
4 Rounds:
Grace +110 (5) / Simpson
Blixt +105 (2) / Clark
1st Round:
Streelman +105 (2) / Clark
Henley +105 (2) / Spieth
Day +3250 (3)
Snedeker +4050 (2)
D. Johnson +4050 (2)
Stenson +3250 (2)
Grace +6550 (1)
Bradley +12550 (0.5)
Haas +12550 (0.5)
4 Rounds:
Grace +110 (5) / Simpson
Blixt +105 (2) / Clark
1st Round:
Streelman +105 (2) / Clark
Henley +105 (2) / Spieth
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$85.00 $1,912.50 Pending 7/18/13 1:00am Golf Major +2250 British Open Championship 2013 - Adam Scott
$65.00 $2,080.00 Pending 7/18/13 1:00am Golf Major +3200 British Open Championship 2013 - Luke Donald
$50.00 $2,000.00 Pending 7/18/13 1:00am Golf Major +4000 British Open Championship 2013 - Brandt Snedeker
$50.00 $2,400.00 Pending 7/18/13 1:00am Golf Major +4800 British Open Championship 2013 - Henrik Stenson
$50.00 $2,400.00 Pending 7/18/13 1:00am Golf Major +4800 British Open Championship 2013 - Rickie Fowler
$33.00 $2,640.00 Pending 7/18/13 1:00am Golf Major +8000 British Open Championship 2013 - Thomas Bjorn
$65.00 $2,080.00 Pending 7/18/13 1:00am Golf Major +3200 British Open Championship 2013 - Luke Donald
$50.00 $2,000.00 Pending 7/18/13 1:00am Golf Major +4000 British Open Championship 2013 - Brandt Snedeker
$50.00 $2,400.00 Pending 7/18/13 1:00am Golf Major +4800 British Open Championship 2013 - Henrik Stenson
$50.00 $2,400.00 Pending 7/18/13 1:00am Golf Major +4800 British Open Championship 2013 - Rickie Fowler
$33.00 $2,640.00 Pending 7/18/13 1:00am Golf Major +8000 British Open Championship 2013 - Thomas Bjorn
OUTRIGHT:
SCHWARTZEL +3700
TOURNEY MATCH UPS:
COETZEE OVER CABRERA -130
SINGH OVER THOMPSON -185
OLESON OVER LAIRD +115
DAVIS OVER GARRIGUS -140
SCHWARTZEL +3700
TOURNEY MATCH UPS:
COETZEE OVER CABRERA -130
SINGH OVER THOMPSON -185
OLESON OVER LAIRD +115
DAVIS OVER GARRIGUS -140
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Q. I'm sure you've seen the list of winners here over the years, going way back, it's almost all Hall of Famers. Any theories as to why this place produces such great winners? Is it a coincidence or is there something to the fact that the guys at those times are the ones emerging as the winners?
GRAEME MCDOWELL: I think because it's a fair test. I've pictured some of the Open rotation golf courses, they can be quite severe from a terrain point of view. And you've really -- it's kind of a bunch here or a bunch there, it's depending on which side of the slope you hit can be the difference between birdie and bogey. I think this golf course is extremely fair. It's got a lot of, like I talked about, a lot of flat entrances into greens, where good shots are getting rewarded more often than not here. This golf course is all right there in front of you, there's no hidden tricks to it. Like I say, good quality golf gets rewarded. When a links golf course starts to play firm and fast, and some of the fairways can be quite undulating and lots of humps and hollows. That's just the nature of links golf. If you catch the wrong side of a slope or downslope or upslope, it can be construed as quite unfair. I don't think there is anything like that on this course. This course is just all there in front of you. You hit the shots, they'll be where you expect them to be. It gives you half a chance around the greens. It's very penal off the tee, about half a chance around the greens, gives you a chance to pitch and hit bunker shots, and doesn't kind of unduly punish you too much. Of course you're going to find yourself up against the lip of a few traps here and there. Nine out of ten times this golf course will reward good golf, and like I say, punish you off the tee, but give yourself opportunities up and around the greens. I think it's a fair golf course which rewards great players and great golf, probably why we have so many great champions at this venue.
Q. Given your performance for the majority of the Open last year, and the fact that two of your victories this year in Bulgaria and France have come on links-style courses, does that put good memories in the bank to draw upon, or is this a completely different challenge?
GRAEME MCDOWELL: No, I think growing up on a links golf course, if I was to say which one of the four Major championships, if I was to win one, you know, again, what would my best chance come, it would certainly come at a U.S. Open or British Open. I think the links style golf is in my blood and I always feel like I revert back well to it. I'm naturally and instinctually can play well in the wind. The short game I have a fairly good instinct for the short game, and I'm say very good pace putter, the things I've learned growing up, I suppose. Like you say, the golf course in Bulgaria, to an extent and certainly the golf course at the French Open, in many ways was very, very good preparation for a week like this. I'm sure Castle Stuart last week was good prep for a lot of reasons, firm and fast, and pace putting, et cetera. I think French Open from a point of view of hitting fairways, long fescue when you get off the beaten track, firm and fiery conditions, playing quite conservatively off the tee and aggressive into the greens, I've always felt that that was a good course for me, because it was quite linksy. So that was good prep. And hopefully I'll be trying to use my links skills to good effect this week. This is a bit like Lytham last year. I liked it when I saw it, as far as a golf course that sets up for me in The Open rotation. A golf course like St. Andrews probably really wouldn't be my cup of tee, because guys that can fly it 300, 320 yards, can bomb trouble out of play at St. Andrews, but they can't blow it out of play here because it's well bunkered bunkers, plenty of rough. There's going to be a lot of similar-type plays off tees that you're not going to be able to over-par this golf course, I think. It sets up well.
Q. Given the three wins that you've had this year have come in similar sets, how do you go about creating a master plan this week? Do you take the place apart on paper or in your head or working the greens backwards? What way do you go about planning?
GRAEME MCDOWELL: Really just by hitting shots. And even from a week ago, when my caddie and I were here, Monday afternoon, evening, and Tuesday morning last week, the golf course has sped up again. Shots that were maybe 3-irons last week, are sort of becoming 4- and 5-irons. It's really getting firmer and faster. You really kind of have to be ready for any contingency, I suppose. If the wind switches, a hole can play entirely different. A bunker that you're trying to take out of play with a 3- or 4-iron, might be a hole you can all of a sudden take on. I picture a hole on the back nine -- I think it's 12. Kind of downhill, par-4. It's playing back into the wind today. It's kinds of a 3-iron and an 8-iron. If it's weren't downwind, guys can blow it on that green. So you have to be looking at stuff like that. But like I say this golf course forces you into certain areas in the fairway. Holes like 18, there's very little you can do there, except hit it into the area about the size of this room that they kind of have bunker right, two bunkers kind of left, heavy rough left and short, and they're trying to get you to position it in this area to go into the green with a 4, 5, 6-iron. So I think that's the characteristic of the golf course in that it forces you into certain areas. There's a few holes that give you opportunities to kind of blow up past trouble and go in with less club. But that's kind of what I'm doing. I suppose I'm picturing different wind directions and how my game plan might change. And I feel like between myself and my caddie we're fairly good at that stuff.
Q. Gary Player told me that it was a pity that so many players will not be using driver this week from the tee. What is your view on that? And do you have a score in mind that might take it to win it this week?
GRAEME MCDOWELL: Looking at winning score, if the wind forecast is what they expect, which is fairly light, 8 to 10 miles an hour, switching to the east on the weekend, tough -- I think it might be 10, 12-under. It really just depends. It can get fairly evil with pin positions, The R&A, I have to say. They can get a little bit evil. These greens, there are some little corners on them that they can find. Obviously weather is always going to play a massive factor. Let's pray for a great, sunny, breezy weekend. That would be fantastic. As far as Mr. Player on the drivers, I'm not really sure what he means. He's an athletic, fit guy. Loves the dynamic kind of nature of the game of golf. And I'm sure he just wants to see guys out there ripping it and using their athletic ability. I like a bit of variety on a golf course. If I ever design a course, it will be a lot of different clubs off tees, and irons and woods, and something that kind of gets the brain working a little bit. This is certainly a game of chess this week, where you have to position your pieces and keep them in play. A little bit of reverse in that you've got to play a bit conservative off the tee and maybe a bit more aggressive into the greens. So certainly there won't be a lot of drivers. I don't see my hitting much more than five or six drivers out here. It's a great tactician golf course.
MIKE WOODCOCK: We'll get started. Just like to thank Graeme McDowell for coming in and joining us this afternoon. You've had quite a run recently, I think three wins in the last seven tournaments. Must give you a lot of confidence coming into this week.
GRAEME MCDOWELL: Yeah. Always great to be back at the Open Championship, especially when the sun is shining. I'll try not to talk about the weather too much today. We'll enjoy it while we have it. Great golf course here, completes my set of Open golf courses this week. Muirfield was the only one in the rotation I had never played before, and got a chance to come here early last week and play it in beautiful conditions. And it's, as everyone has seen, it's in magnificent condition. It's a fantastic golf course. And really, really excited to be here and ready to go, like you say. Some good confidence coming off the back of a win two weeks ago in France. A golf course which is not dissimilar in style to a golf course like this one, where fairways and greens are a real premium, and very much so this week, where fairways are a must. You really can't play this golf course from the rough. You must keep it in the short grass to have a chance and out of the bunkers. It's a really, really great of golf. I'm excited about the way things are setting up.
Q. You said you never completed The Open set, where does this one rank on the Open set? And what do you think are the strong points about it?
GRAEME MCDOWELL: It's right up there for me. I'd probably say Birkdale, Turnberry, Lytham and this one, in no particular order, that's my four favorite Open golf courses, Open venues. St. Andrews takes a lot of beating from me as a venue. But golf courses I really enjoy this one. Strengths, it doesn't have a lot of weaknesses, let's be honest. It doesn't feel long. But let's be honest, when a links golf course is playing this firm and fast, it doesn't have to be long. I think it's well bunkered. A lot of the bunkers around the greens are very playable and very fair. The bunkers in the fairways are hack-out material, like they should be. I think they've done a great job with the rough this week. It's nicely graded. It's thick in the areas it should be thick, and gives you half a chance to get club on ball in areas sort of where you deserve to have a chance. And I love the flight entrances into a lot of greens, like the 10th hole behind us, here. To me I see that hole as not a lot of club off the tee, as it must find fairway, but then you've got quite a big target to hit into. So you can kind of go into these greens with a bit more club in your hand. Be conservative off the tee and a bit more aggressive into the greens. The par-3s are probably a key to this golf course. All four of them are very difficult. All upslope short of the green, and you've got to really sort of beat the first seven or eight yards of the green and heavily bunkered. Par-3s are key. The two par-5s are certainly chances, for sure, in the prevailing wind. It's got a really nice balance. I think it's very fair. I think bad golf gets punished and good golf gets rewarded. I think it's a very fair golf course. I like it a lot.
GL
Edit . . . I had a crazy time trying to post this; the link and other stuff about the post was just bizarre, and got edited out.
GRAEME MCDOWELL: Yeah. Always great to be back at the Open Championship, especially when the sun is shining. I'll try not to talk about the weather too much today. We'll enjoy it while we have it. Great golf course here, completes my set of Open golf courses this week. Muirfield was the only one in the rotation I had never played before, and got a chance to come here early last week and play it in beautiful conditions. And it's, as everyone has seen, it's in magnificent condition. It's a fantastic golf course. And really, really excited to be here and ready to go, like you say. Some good confidence coming off the back of a win two weeks ago in France. A golf course which is not dissimilar in style to a golf course like this one, where fairways and greens are a real premium, and very much so this week, where fairways are a must. You really can't play this golf course from the rough. You must keep it in the short grass to have a chance and out of the bunkers. It's a really, really great of golf. I'm excited about the way things are setting up.
Q. You said you never completed The Open set, where does this one rank on the Open set? And what do you think are the strong points about it?
GRAEME MCDOWELL: It's right up there for me. I'd probably say Birkdale, Turnberry, Lytham and this one, in no particular order, that's my four favorite Open golf courses, Open venues. St. Andrews takes a lot of beating from me as a venue. But golf courses I really enjoy this one. Strengths, it doesn't have a lot of weaknesses, let's be honest. It doesn't feel long. But let's be honest, when a links golf course is playing this firm and fast, it doesn't have to be long. I think it's well bunkered. A lot of the bunkers around the greens are very playable and very fair. The bunkers in the fairways are hack-out material, like they should be. I think they've done a great job with the rough this week. It's nicely graded. It's thick in the areas it should be thick, and gives you half a chance to get club on ball in areas sort of where you deserve to have a chance. And I love the flight entrances into a lot of greens, like the 10th hole behind us, here. To me I see that hole as not a lot of club off the tee, as it must find fairway, but then you've got quite a big target to hit into. So you can kind of go into these greens with a bit more club in your hand. Be conservative off the tee and a bit more aggressive into the greens. The par-3s are probably a key to this golf course. All four of them are very difficult. All upslope short of the green, and you've got to really sort of beat the first seven or eight yards of the green and heavily bunkered. Par-3s are key. The two par-5s are certainly chances, for sure, in the prevailing wind. It's got a really nice balance. I think it's very fair. I think bad golf gets punished and good golf gets rewarded. I think it's a very fair golf course. I like it a lot.
GL
Edit . . . I had a crazy time trying to post this; the link and other stuff about the post was just bizarre, and got edited out.
Phil Mickelson(20/1) e.w.
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Graeme McDowell(25/1) e.w.
- - My striking impression of McDowell at Merion was as that of a lonesome figure on the range, splashing balls out of puddles during a downpour, which didn?t prove to be brilliant preparation come Thursday. My early impression of McDowell this week was the easy equanimity of his press conference.
Henrik Stenson(45/1) e.w.
- - Ticks an awful lot of boxes for me, including his play at TPC Sawgrass, where the players play to pretty much the same spot off the tees.
Matteo Manassero(66/1) e.w.
- - Even though I don?t think Matteo is particularly adept at the long approach shot, there is (apparently) margin enough for his brand, and I think the rest of the examination is right in his wheelhouse.
Rickie Fowler(45/1) e.w.
- - Seems like a lousy price, but he can thrive if it becomes a grind, and definitely like that he?s one major removed from being paired with Tiger at the start.
Martin Kaymer(66/1) e.w.
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Chris Wood(140/1) e.w.
- - Bottom line, should the enormity of the situation emerge on Saturday and Sunday, I think he can carry my cash farther than Jamie Donaldson.
Lucas Glover(300/1) e.w.
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Boo Weekley(200/1) e.w.
- - Strikes a chord.
Tiger Woods(10/1) Win Only
- - After being called out by Hank Haney on his recent preparation for the majors, he sure found an odd way to use his precious prep time for this event.
More coming.
GL
Richard Sterne(100/1) e.w.
Brandt Snedeker(40/1) e.w.
Kiradech Aphibarnrat(22/1) e.w. Top Debutant
Lucas Glover(200/1) e.w.1st Round Leader
Boo Weekley(150/1) e.w. 1st Round Leader
Jamie Donaldson(100/1) e.w. 1st Round Leader
GL
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Graeme McDowell(25/1) e.w.
- - My striking impression of McDowell at Merion was as that of a lonesome figure on the range, splashing balls out of puddles during a downpour, which didn?t prove to be brilliant preparation come Thursday. My early impression of McDowell this week was the easy equanimity of his press conference.
Henrik Stenson(45/1) e.w.
- - Ticks an awful lot of boxes for me, including his play at TPC Sawgrass, where the players play to pretty much the same spot off the tees.
Matteo Manassero(66/1) e.w.
- - Even though I don?t think Matteo is particularly adept at the long approach shot, there is (apparently) margin enough for his brand, and I think the rest of the examination is right in his wheelhouse.
Rickie Fowler(45/1) e.w.
- - Seems like a lousy price, but he can thrive if it becomes a grind, and definitely like that he?s one major removed from being paired with Tiger at the start.
Martin Kaymer(66/1) e.w.
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Chris Wood(140/1) e.w.
- - Bottom line, should the enormity of the situation emerge on Saturday and Sunday, I think he can carry my cash farther than Jamie Donaldson.
Lucas Glover(300/1) e.w.
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Boo Weekley(200/1) e.w.
- - Strikes a chord.
Tiger Woods(10/1) Win Only
- - After being called out by Hank Haney on his recent preparation for the majors, he sure found an odd way to use his precious prep time for this event.
More coming.
GL
Richard Sterne(100/1) e.w.
Brandt Snedeker(40/1) e.w.
Kiradech Aphibarnrat(22/1) e.w. Top Debutant
Lucas Glover(200/1) e.w.1st Round Leader
Boo Weekley(150/1) e.w. 1st Round Leader
Jamie Donaldson(100/1) e.w. 1st Round Leader
GL
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Rose 20-1 win, 10-1 place, 5-1 show
Kuchar 40-1 win, 20-1 place, 10-1 show
Colsaerts 50-1 win, 25-1 place, 12 1/2 show
Poulter 50-1 win, 25-1 place, 12 1/2 show
Grace 60-1 win, 30-1 place, 15-1 show
Good luck to all!
Kuchar 40-1 win, 20-1 place, 10-1 show
Colsaerts 50-1 win, 25-1 place, 12 1/2 show
Poulter 50-1 win, 25-1 place, 12 1/2 show
Grace 60-1 win, 30-1 place, 15-1 show
Good luck to all!
Outrights
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN PHIL MICKLESON +1800
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN JUSTIN ROSE +1850
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN ADAM SCOTT +2250
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN GRAEEME MCDOWELL +2000
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN ERNIE ELS +3000
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN JASON DAY +2800
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN BRANDT SNEDEKER +4000
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN DUSTIN JOHNSON +4000
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN MATT KUCHAR +3300
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN WEBB SIMPSON +8000
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN JORDAN SPIETH +8000
1st Round Match Ups
C WOOD -115 (C WOOD vrs B WIESBERGER)
S STALLINGS +105 (S CINK vrs S STALLINGS)
J DAY -125 (J DAY vrs M KAYMER)
J FURYK -130 (J FURYK vrs PAUL LAWRIE)
W SIMPSON -115 (B GRACE vrs W SIMPSON)
4 Round Match Ups
J DAY -115 (J DAY vrs L DONALD)
C WOOD -120 (C WOOD vrs M ILONEN)
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN PHIL MICKLESON +1800
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN JUSTIN ROSE +1850
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN ADAM SCOTT +2250
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN GRAEEME MCDOWELL +2000
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN ERNIE ELS +3000
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN JASON DAY +2800
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN BRANDT SNEDEKER +4000
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN DUSTIN JOHNSON +4000
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN MATT KUCHAR +3300
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN WEBB SIMPSON +8000
ODDS TO WIN THE 2013 BRITISH OPEN JORDAN SPIETH +8000
1st Round Match Ups
C WOOD -115 (C WOOD vrs B WIESBERGER)
S STALLINGS +105 (S CINK vrs S STALLINGS)
J DAY -125 (J DAY vrs M KAYMER)
J FURYK -130 (J FURYK vrs PAUL LAWRIE)
W SIMPSON -115 (B GRACE vrs W SIMPSON)
4 Round Match Ups
J DAY -115 (J DAY vrs L DONALD)
C WOOD -120 (C WOOD vrs M ILONEN)
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Round 1 plays (4pts):
Webb Simpson to beat Francesco Molinari +102 @ 5Dimes
Three missed cuts in five attempts does not augur well for Molinari. In fact, a record of three top-25 finishes in 18 Major Championships is not particularly good for a player 42nd in the World Rankings. Simpson is a Major Champion (2012 U.S. Open) and in his previous Open Championship start (2011, Royal St. George's) he finished 16th, so links golf should not be too daunting for the American, particularly given the calm conditions. In these conditions, Simpson looks likely continue his 5-1 h2h dominance over his Italian opponent in 2013, so there is value in these odds.
John Senden to beat Marc Warren -110 @ Pinnacle [also available @ 5Dimes, The Greek and Carib]
I'll oppose Warren who has the added pressure of being a home player as well as making his debut in this event. Senden has made the cut in four of his last five Open Championship and has missed the cut in just one Major since the start of 2011. Not really a player to side with to win an event such as this, but perfect for match bets.
Webb Simpson to beat Francesco Molinari +102 @ 5Dimes
Three missed cuts in five attempts does not augur well for Molinari. In fact, a record of three top-25 finishes in 18 Major Championships is not particularly good for a player 42nd in the World Rankings. Simpson is a Major Champion (2012 U.S. Open) and in his previous Open Championship start (2011, Royal St. George's) he finished 16th, so links golf should not be too daunting for the American, particularly given the calm conditions. In these conditions, Simpson looks likely continue his 5-1 h2h dominance over his Italian opponent in 2013, so there is value in these odds.
John Senden to beat Marc Warren -110 @ Pinnacle [also available @ 5Dimes, The Greek and Carib]
I'll oppose Warren who has the added pressure of being a home player as well as making his debut in this event. Senden has made the cut in four of his last five Open Championship and has missed the cut in just one Major since the start of 2011. Not really a player to side with to win an event such as this, but perfect for match bets.
I am no expert at European golfers, consequently, I tended towards Americans. I love watching the Old World guys play links golf though.
72 holes
Kuchar over D Johnson -109
I'm not impressed with DJ's game this year, I do realize he could click on at any moment. Kuchar is just always on.
K Bradley over Furyk -109
Keegan is just a half light year ahead of Furyk at this point.
72 holes
Kuchar over D Johnson -109
I'm not impressed with DJ's game this year, I do realize he could click on at any moment. Kuchar is just always on.
K Bradley over Furyk -109
Keegan is just a half light year ahead of Furyk at this point.
Tiger 8/1
Fuck he gonna win a major at some
point damnit.... Might get better odds
if he lays an egg in 1st round but he could
come out on fire and odds go down...
either way just think he get's this one!!!!!
:weed: I got the MOJO Tiger!!!!!!!!!
Fuck he gonna win a major at some
point damnit.... Might get better odds
if he lays an egg in 1st round but he could
come out on fire and odds go down...
either way just think he get's this one!!!!!
:weed: I got the MOJO Tiger!!!!!!!!!
