The Pitfalls Of Services

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I wrote this article several months ago. Since we are almost upon prime service time because of football season, I am going to post it. I will post it on my page tomorrow.

Before I post it I want to say that I have emailed back and forth several times with Anders and I have met kcwolf, fletcher and Raymond in Vegas and I believe all of them are stand up guys. All of them are involved with services now. This is not a personal attack on them, but it is the honest truth about why I believe services are a bad idea.

I also want to make one addendum to this article:

What I failed to write about here is something from the side of the handicapper that is thinking of starting a service. You often hear that 90% of all small businesses fail in the first year and as it pertains to services I would bet that it is an even higher percentage. The very first time a losing streak hits, your entire business is gone. GONE. It's true that there are exceptions, but even handicappers with spectacular long term records lose their entire customer base when a bad streak hits. Nobody is going to pay you to lose their money for them. It may be unfair, but it is a reality of the game.

Once that streak hits, the service usually has to completely rebuild their customer base. That means actively advertising on message forums, print advertising and telephone and email canvassing. You hear from these guys all the time around this time of year and that is what it takes to get a new group of people willing to pay for picks.

Obviously I wish all three services that those guys are involved with luck, but it is a hard game to make money at.


THE PITFALLS OF SERVICES

They are easy targets of ridicule, the greasy pitchmen for 900 numbers and sports services that buy infomercial time and ad space in USA Today. They advertise "Locks" and "Guarantees" that could not possibly be true, and quite recently a couple of them were even exposed by the authorities and taken into custody. Then again they also can be legitimate businessmen who charge a nominal fee to help struggling sports gamblers gain a profit where they might otherwise see a loss. They are the men who run sports services.

The simple answer when a seasoned handicapper is asked how to deal with sports services is, "Don't." Never pay for sports picks. Ever. Because there are just so many scams and so much money to be made off the weaknesses of struggling gamblers that playing it safe and ignoring any desire to pay for picks is the best way to go.

But let's be realistic. While avoidance is the only solution to avoid being burned by scam artists who pollute gambling forums with "1*" or "1 unit" plays and then advertise higher valued plays in a pay service, there are a number of legitimately good handicappers who offer their plays along with a money management system that is relatively likely to leave the customer with a profit. And what is wrong with that? Many of these services will even used the comparison to a stock broker as a pitch. You pay a stock broker a not insignificant percentage to spend part of his day managing your money and insuring that it grows. In the case of sports services, you still get the rush of placing the bets and winning, but now your bankroll is more likely to grow rather than dwindle.

There is one fundamental difference in the way a sports service operates compared to a stock portfolio manager: the portfolio manager nets a percentage of your profits while a sports service must be paid a standard fee regardless of results. It is true that this is a necessary measure. Since a portfolio manger has direct access to your money and a sports service doesn't, it would be impossible for a sports service to charge based on a percentage of profits.

Still, that is only a minor problem. In fact, some would view it as a plus. So why, then, am I so dead set against the idea of paying for sports selections? Well, mainly because it breeds laziness in a business that requires anything but laziness for success. If you are looking to make money, there are a million easier ways to do it than gamble on sports. Successful sports handicapping takes an incredible amount of effort every single day to turn a comfortable profit. By subscribing to a service, the gambler is basically trying to take the easy way out of letting another handicapper do the work for them.

Like anything else in life that seems too good to be true, this idea is as well. Even good sports services hit terrible bad streaks, and the lazy handicapper generally won't have the discipline to survive these down streaks. The psychological drain of losing preys on all handicappers but the one's who take handicapping seriously are well prepared to survive without going broke on make up bets.

There is also the issue of what the gambler does when his relationship with the service ends. Even if the gambler has made a healthy profit (which, let's face it, is only going to happen a small percentage of the time considering all the scam services out there), that gambler is left with an addicting habit of sports gambling, nobody to lead them and little knowledge of how to turn a profit themselves. Those three ingredients are a Molotov cocktail that usually explodes and leaves the gambler stripped of whatever profit they formerly had.

The point of all of this is to let gamblers know that no matter how unsure you are of your handicapping abilities, you are still most likely better off in the long run than you would be subscribing to a pay service.

That having been said, I know there are still some of you who may end up paying for picks at some point in the future. If you decide to go that route, I would make these suggestions to give yourself the best chance of turning a profit over the long haul.

1) Ask the service to give an exact payment scale. AVOID ANY SERVICE WITH "CLUBS" where there are different pay scales for the same amount of days. Any legitimate service will offer all their plays in a single day for the same price without pricier "Clubs" or "Releases" that cost the customer extra money.

2) Ask the service to give a concrete selection release schedule. In this, I mean, ask questions like: if we go on a cold streak, should I expect fewer plays? how many plays per day should I expect in each sport? will the number of selections vary in certain sports towards the beginning or end of a season? etc.

3) Ask to see an independently documented record of the service's plays. If the service does not have their plays documented, AVOID THEM COMPLETELY. This may sound self serving, but there is no good reason for a service to abstain from proving their worth on something like Best Bettor. It takes about a minute per day to enter selections and even though the money management method is rough to say the least, at least it gives a documented record of plays.

4) Ask the service about a specific money management schedule. What percentage of your bankroll or how many "units" should be wagered on each type of play? What is the total bankroll percentage that I can expect to wager each day?

5) Try to find a service that gives plays in the same style you like to play. If you are comfortable with one or two plays per day, find a service that gives about that many plays. If you want more action, find a service that makes a higher number of picks. If you play the same amount on each play, find a service like that. There is no value in subscribing to a service that will only make you uncomfortable to subscribe to their plays.

Before I wrap this up I want to reiterate that almost all gamblers would be better off NOT subscribing to services. Handicapping done properly with hard work and discipline can lead to nice profits. Done any other way, there are pitfalls along the way. For the addicted gambler who simply *must* have action but who doesn't have the time to handicap, a service used conservatively may be a solution, but not as good a solution as giving up sports betting entirely. To those of you who are stubborn in your decision to pay for plays, I say good luck, but be careful to avoid scams.
 

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great nick- i agree with your taking on services- i have the means and the marketing force to run a successful pay service- but the way i see it even if one is profitable how profitable putting the time and effort into a business like a service even being able to pull 100 to 150K out of the co. would not be worth it for me. i have been approached and have had numerous market researches done. and for the most part services must be extremley aggressive in there marketing almost like a boiler room operation. my efforts are more suited in my own co. there are successful services out there northcoast is one of them. well run business with a tremendous record- but 3500 for the season - why not take the free info that is provided and save the 3500. again money management in business and the world of gambling is vital. there are also services just like brokerage houses that do well without making there client money back (well over 60%) why are they open great marketing. so be careful and gl on your season nick.
 

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Thanks, Thunder. I think a lot of people fail to realize the amount of work that goes into a service and how tough it is to get something out of it. I am sure there are some that make money, but it is tough at first. GL this football season.
 

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Fantastic article, Nick.

I especially like the fact that you brought up the issue of "money management." Most pay services sell PICKS. That's their business, some do it honestly and some don't (like giving out both sides).

I'll be honest with you and say that I don't know of any sports service that offers personalized money management advice. I'm not sure if that day will come when that aspect will truly be incorporated into such an entity. There are good articles and books floating around that offer advice on that, and I'm sure that we've all read quite a few.

I used to work in a brokerage firm (btw more houses are gravitating towards fee-based services), and the way I look at it is sports betting should be looked at from perspective of obtaining long-term profits, which is not unlike investing. Quite simply, the basic short-term goal should be to be in the positive at the end of the day, each and every day, while minimizing losses. This takes a lot of focus and discipline. A handicapper of note once said it's not how much you win, but how much you don't lose, or something like that.

The other part I like about your article is what you said about fostering laziness. So true. Why leave it in the hands of someone else to come up with a decision that you should be making yourself? It's YOUR money after all, right?

Thanks again and keep writing. Look forward to reading more. :)
 

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If you want to make money, you have to be
a trained sheister, forget about picking games, or what percentage you made last year or the year before.

Just like a person who wants to get elected:
promise them everything they want to hear, regardless of what they will get later.
Above all, don't even think about trying to be honest, that word is taboo.


A few years ago I was involved in the Sweet 17 Contest on the old AOL boards (along with Pepin46, Sknzh8tr, etc...)
anyways I hit 69 % that year, to my amazement, During that run I started receiving emails from everyone and their mother
yes some even offering money.
They were all told "we all have streaks and decent years but there was NO way of repeating next year what I accomplished this year and to go with your own or coattail someone who is streaking."
Capping ? I've always done this for fun, the pleasure of beating the man & the thrill of competing with others..


There are and always will be weak people that will pay for picks
I see em alot here in Vegas. Ironically when they get screwed the most always come back for more.
Kinda like those who pay for sex
:shrug:


As far as those who leave to make a few bucks, best to them.
To each their own.
 
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A few random thoughts about services-

1. Factor in the cost of the service into your break-even winning percentage; depending on the cost of service and your betting unit, your break-even % may be significantly higher.

2. Release of plays- are you going to get all of the plays in one release or will there be multiple releases throughout the day? if it is the multiple route, are you prepared to have access (or have the time commitment) to these releases throughout the course of the day (or late into the night)?

Along the same vein, make sure you have access to the same lines the services do. Especially services that claim access to "wise-guy" or "steam", oftentimes by the time you get the release you will not be able to find the same number, which ultimately leads to your service having a different W-L record that you as a client will.


3. Services aren't about managing their clients' money, they are about fulfilling a need- action. If a service or client was truly interested in solely making money, they would treat their enterprise the same way an investment fund would- you deposit an initial amount of money and the broker (service) manages your money for X % return on investment. I have yet to see any service willing to operate on this premise.

hey Doc- I remember you from the old AOL days when you were on Eddie's page- shoot me an email sometime.
 
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