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Everyone knows that I am an Arizona fan, but there are several reasons to take Arizona in the game against Oklahoma IMO:

Arizona has a small height advantage. . . Oklahoma relies on outrebounding their opponents to win games. While the Sooners may end up with a small advantage on the boards, I can't see them dominating the glass when Arizona's big men have been playing so well as of late. While height does not mean everything, I feel the Cats match up very well with their frontcourt.

Sooners are struggling from behind the arc. . . I know the Wildcat team well. . . the way to beat them is to drain 3's early in the game in order to push the zone defense the Wildcats will use out to the perimiter in order to open up the frontcourt. Unfortunately, hitting 20% (as the Sooners have in their recent games) will not get the job done and the Cats will gladly allow such a percentage in order to plug up the floor underneath the basket. Even if the Wildcats happen to go man to man, their defense has always allowed open looks along the 3 point arc. The Sooners will have to nail these shots and punish the Cats or else it could be a long night for them.

Luke Walton. . . Oklahoma plays amazing defense. Absolutely no question about it. In my opinion it will be up to Luke Walton for Arizona to break down this defense and create the few easy looks that the Cats may find at the basket. I would be interested in hearing if others believe the Sooners have played a team with a similar catalyst as Walton is for Arizona. If they haven't played such a team, I feel this is a strength that Arizona brings to the table in order to break down this tough defense that other teams do not have.

Reason to bet against Arizona:

Oklahoma plays a physical game that Arizona is not used to playing. Of course one could say that Arizona plays an up tempo game that the Sooners haven't seen, but I think Kansas more than qualifies as a test to what they can expect from the Wildcats. An obvious key for Arizona is their perimeter shooting just like it will be for Oklahoma. The team that drains the long shot I feel has an incredible advantage in this game because it will force the opposing defense to adjust and allow for other areas on the floor (especially the paint) to open up.

In the end though, physical teams usually lose NCAA tournament games to teams that have a speed advantage against them (don't take this to the bank, but it is my experience that this is the case). While I am concerned that Arizona may face Missouri or ahead to Duke in the Final Four where they could easily lose to either team given their 3 point shooting capabilities, I just do not see the Sooners presenting the same problem.

I feel the Arizona ML holds the best value for this game. . .I will probably lay off given my bias and that winning or losing this game will be enough without having money on the game but I still feel that the Wildcats are a strong play here.

Games that I will be on:

Pitt taking 1 over Kent: Others will believe this to be a trap but I feel that Pitt has the defense to slow Kent and win this game.

Duke laying 13 over Indiana: Just feel that the Hoosiers will fall in a similar fashion as they did to Kentucky earlier this year. Duke will have to be on top of their game though to cover but I feel they will get it done.

Good luck all and play the Wildcats ML ;)
 

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Arizona is the strongest play of the day

Arizona is the strongest play of the day

Just wanted to add an important reason that Arizona +3 is the best play of the day to me:They are the only team to advance to the round of 16 without having covered last weekend vs the opening line(which was 8 vs Wyomimg so they technically just pushed in that game.)This sayes to me that they advanced without once playing above expectations (covering) and that they are therefore the team most likely to do so this weekend.Coincidentally,the year Arizona won the national championship with Simon and Bibby,they did the exact same thing:failed to cover the first weekend and then beat Kansas as a 10 point underdog and were never headed.I'm not saying this years team will do that,but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them win outright today.Oklahoma (with the way they had to play to win the Big 12 tournament,topped by the upset of Kansas,and off a good game vs Xavier last game on Sunday )is due for a game where they don't play their best,and the breaks maybe don't go their way.GL Either way
 

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i don't think that Az is gonna have any speed advantage......OU can run with anyone......two guards are as quick as any guards in country, swingmen Detrick and Ere can run, and Selvy and Brown are big guys who can run and jump til last whistle......

Key for this game i think is gonna be as you said if AZ can shoot the ball.....other key will be how game is called......if OU is allowed to play physical ball or if refs are gonna blow a quick whistle....
 
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Edludes....that covering analysis makes 0 sense......hope you don't actually make your plays on that......also OU has shot the ball terribly in their two games.....you think they have played well lately????.....they almost always shoot terribly though and against Kansas shot 33% and won convincingly.......defense rarely goes in slumps and so basing a play on you think OU is "due" for a bad game makes no sense at all
 

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Yes, the 'due' theory isn't the best of ways to approach a game. Arizona going 0-1-1 or 1-1 ATS the first two games of the tournament means absolutely nothing.
 

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"due theory"

"due theory"

If the "due to win/cover theory" means nothing....then shouldn't everyone who posts trends the other way mean nothing also?

People are always posting things such as...
1. Oklahoma is 3-0 when scoring more than 65 pts. or
2. Oklahoma is 5-0-2 ATS when they out-rebound their opponents. or
3. Oklahoma is 10-3 when holding their opponents below 30% from 3 point range.

These numbers are all made up but if you're gonna knock someone because they say this team is due, then everyone who posts trends should get "knocked" also.

Just my 2 cents. GL to all.
 

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I'm not a trend player, nor do I put much stock into trends, but simply stating Arizona might be a good play because they are 'due' isn't 'good' handicapping. Just my opinion.
 

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Interesting how this discussion has turned to streaks/ATS records. My two cents is that I rarely use ATS records as well and certainly do not pick a team because they are due. However, I often find interesting differences in ATS records at home vs. on the road and sometimes use these to my advantage.

Freeze,

I still contend that the Wildcats have a speed advantage over the Sooners. . . of course one never knows until both teams finally play one another, but I have seen both teams (of course Arizona more so than the Sooners) and just my judgement call. Could always be wrong but the only teams that I believe can hang with Arizona's speed is Duke and Kansas. This may sound ridiculous, but the only team that I have seen that is actually quicker than Arizona was last year's Duke team as they proved it in the championship game. Wildcat's always bring their speed and quickness to every game which in my opinion is a reason they have gotten this far after losing so much talent last year.

Should be a great game. . . lots of Pac 10 vs. Big 12 games to decide which conference is the best. I think the Pac 10 has an excellent shot at winning two out of three!
 

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i think pac10 should win 2 outta 3 too......however, that would make it 2 outta 4........don't forget the Cardinal game last week!!!!

i like Oregon's and UCLA's chances and think Az wins 2 outta 5 against OU.....

OU's has as much if not more speed than Kansas in my mind.....just don't force the tempo as often......Ford and maybe Hinrich are only guards in big 12 faster than White and Price

i got to see AZ the year after they won the title and that team had as much speed as any i have ever seen.....sat front row when they played at Baylor and felt sorry for anyone trying to break that press with Simon, Bibby, Dickerson and Terry harassing you.....
 

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Good point freeze. . . how quickly I forget! And Kansas should get credit for two wins after destroying the Cardinal the way they did.

Any opinions on Pitt? I'm looking to play them very large tonight. I think Kent might finally be getting a little too much value here.
 

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When I look at the numbers I think Arizona matches up fairly well.

When I look at the numbers I think Arizona matches up fairly well.

Everything is equal except Oklahoma has 4 more rebound per game in the tournament. I would say Oklahoma has more then 4 board advantage being they played Xavier who can rebound much better then Wyoming. That being said in Oklahoma's first two games they actually gave up some good looks from long range to both Xavier and Illinois Chicago. IMO Oklahoma peaked before this tournament. I think Arizona is a very dangerous team tonight. Lute Olsen will have them prepared to the fullest and should be a great game either way. Not sure if this will have a Factor on the game but Sampsons Dad had a serious heart attack out in San Jose at Oklahoma practice and will be in hospital for a couple weeks. I would not be surprised at all if Arizona puts on a clinic tonight, they are capable team.
 

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actually Sampson's dad had a vessel just under his skull break...subdural.....


think Kent has to shoot well tonight to win......at even money one would think Pitt would be a good play.....gotta think everyone is on Kent after they blew out Alabama and likes to bet with their heart here -- root for cinderella......Pitt wins this 3 outta 5 times with superior athletes but i am rooting for Kent to keep it going tongiht.....Kent plays some pretty good defense in their own right and i think it will be fun to watch
 
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