This is as real as it gets...CV Updates from the front lines.

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My brother in law works with the CDC and Sanjay Gupta @ Emory and my cousin works in infectous disease @ Stanford.

Schools won't re-open til after summer.

We are headed for a complete lockdown.

Estimates are 2-5 million already infected.

9 doctors @ Emory already quarantined with CV and 20+ more awaiting test results.

If you want REAL info first hand and not the BULLSHIT the media is feeding you let me know and I will post updates.

If not stay inside unless you're going for food or meds.

Hospitals in northern NJ are already deferring and turning people away due to over capacity.

This is just the beginning.

Expect to be HOME for 2-4 months minimum.
 

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Mr Lock is going to lose his fucking shit when he reads the above.
 

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My brother in law works with the CDC and Sanjay Gupta @ Emory and my cousin works in infectous disease @ Stanford.

Schools won't re-open til after summer.

We are headed for a complete lockdown.

Estimates are 2-5 million already infected.

9 doctors @ Emory already quarantined with CV and 20+ more awaiting test results.

If you want REAL info first hand and not the BULLSHIT the media is feeding you let me know and I will post updates.

If not stay inside unless you're going for food or meds.

Hospitals in northern NJ are already deferring and turning people away due to over capacity.

This is just the beginning.

Expect to be HOME for 2-4 months minimum.

thanks keep it coming:0008
 

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They also said most who get it will have only mild symptoms. I believe also said 80 % have recovered 15% were hospitalized and 5% of the 15% of those with underlying health issues, compromised immune systems and elderly account for the deaths. This is world wide.
 

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My brother in law works with the CDC and Sanjay Gupta @ Emory and my cousin works in infectous disease @ Stanford.

If you want REAL info first hand and not the BULLSHIT the media is feeding you let me know and I will post updates.

Do you have any updates to post ? The more information we can get the better. Most of us have elderly parents/grandparents. It's best to be prepared for the worse and hope for the best.(imho)


Dr. Mohamed Abu-Abed,
Medical Director - Brampton Civic Hospital


The coronavirus for most people is more like a bad cold ~80% of the time. However for those that get very sick survival is completely based on availability of ICU level care. Northern Italy continues to see a rise in deaths as they have maxed out capacity. To understand, Lombardy is the wealthiest part of Italy and it is one of the wealthiest regions in the EU. In Ontario, we have an average of 2 hospital beds per 1000 people. In Italy they have 3.18 hospital beds per 1000 people; that is 59% more capacity.

In those that get sick 10% of the time they will require ICU level care. They will require life support machines (ventilators). In Italy they have so many sick that there are no ventilators left to use. The lock down in the country was called when their health care system began to collapse. People are dying because there is literally no way to treat them. Italian guidelines now specify that if you are 60 or older and get sick requiring ICU level care, you will not even be considered for a ventilator, as priority is given to the young who have a better chance at living; if and when a ventilator becomes available. The usual length of time someone is on a ventilator is 2 to 8 weeks, before they either die or recover. Turn around is very slow. To repeat they have maxed out their ICU capacity. Doctors are now deciding who to place on respirators and who will be allowed to die. There are no respirators, the old and sick are allowed to die. If you get sick from anything else, appendix ruptures, car accident, heart attack, etc and need ICU level care, you will likely die. There is no capacity left! 10% of their health care workers are unable to work due to the illness.

Italy went from 153 cases on February 23rd to 7375 cases on March 7th, when the decision to shut down Lombardy was made. In those 13days the country decided to wait and see, only to learn now that it was a grievous mistake. Even after the shutdown of the entire country the case numbers are growing tremendously and will continue to do so with a shattered health care system. There will be thousands more in deaths. Because of the saturation of the health care system the mortality rate is at 6.7% right now. In a Country such as South Korea that has enacted strict and decisive measures, they also have the luxury of 13 beds per 1000 people, or 6.5 times the capacity of Ontario, they only have a 0.8% mortality rate. Do not fool yourself; Canada will have bigger problems than Italy with higher death rates as we will saturate our ICUs quicker. To repeat we have 2 hospital beds per 1000 people, Italy has 3.18 per 1000 and South Korea has 13 per 1000.

Canada reported 158 cases today (Almost exactly where Italy was 13 days before they shut down Lombardy). COVID has been slowly rising in Canada and initially felt to be under control and related to travel, in the last 24 hours the numbers related to US travel has significantly grown. It is exceptionally clear that the US numbers are only low because they do NOT have access to test kits. In New York, Governor Cuomo announced today that they will not have adequate test kits until sometime next week. Washington State is also seeing a major backlog. In the medical community it is felt that in those two clusters we likely have well over 10,000 cases in each cluster. In an interview today with Governor Cuomo, New York is expecting to be in the same situation as Italy and Wuhan in the coming week.

In no uncertain terms with an open and free border between the US and Canada we are on a path to a larger disaster than Italy. In this next week, we will likely enter a point of no return and when that happens there will be mass casualties and the economic impact of those loses will be felt and remembered as a failure of our administrations to act.

It takes courage to make bold decisions I do not envy the position you are in. As a father, as a son, as a physician who will see thousands die needlessly I implore you to enact a countrywide quarantine/shut down. With March break approaching 1000s will be infected and every day we delay is thousands more deaths. There is a point of no return coming. Wuhan has seen it, Italy has seen it, Spain is likely going to see it, New York and Washington State will see it. Canada has hope but we need to act NOW.

Please contact me if you have any questions. As a physician working at one of the busiest hospitals in the Country for almost a decade I can without a doubt advise there is minimal capacity to absorb the shock of the increased health care load that is coming. When our health care system saturates; as did Italy?s we will see mass needless loss.
 

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I got distracted...Thank god.

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No, I don't like her but that's one hell of a rack to look at.
 

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My brother in law works with the CDC and Sanjay Gupta @ Emory and my cousin works in infectous disease @ Stanford.

Schools won't re-open til after summer.

We are headed for a complete lockdown.

Estimates are 2-5 million already infected.

9 doctors @ Emory already quarantined with CV and 20+ more awaiting test results.

If you want REAL info first hand and not the BULLSHIT the media is feeding you let me know and I will post updates.

If not stay inside unless you're going for food or meds.

Hospitals in northern NJ are already deferring and turning people away due to over capacity.

This is just the beginning.

Expect to be HOME for 2-4 months minimum.

Sounds about right :scared
 

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Update:

Notice how the NEWS has nothing new to discuss? I'm tired of Cuomo on TV everyday. IMO him sitting in front of PPE, MASKS and GLOVES today was fucking disrespectful to everyone else around the country who is resusing PPE.

Holy Name in Teaneck NJ is at capacity with 150+ cases and 70 ICU's bed now FULL.

FYI - Choloroquine causes SEVERE heart arrhythmia's potentially DEADLY. It's only being used on people who are about to DIE.

Emory is close to capacity and people are DYING. Ethics committees are now in the process of deciding who gets treated and who goes home to potentially DIE.

STAY HOME PEOPLE. If you need anything use Amazon, Whole Foods, Instacart, Target Drive up pickup. Wear masks and gloves if you are going ANYWHERE near ANYONE!

ASSUME EVERYONE has it.

ONE SLIP UP can potentially cost you your life and all your loved ones.

We did a pickup at a local Target and I saw about 100 people in & out as I waited in mask and gloves in my car.
I saw 5 people with gloves and NO ONE with masks.

WE ARE FUCKED.

My cousin lost her shit as she is working 20 hour days 7 days a week and can't understand HOW they are still allowing airlines to FLY! The virus is being transported across the country in all major cities via unknown infected people.

STAY HOME PEOPLE.

My brother in law's test came back NEGATIVE thank god so he will be self quarantined for another 7 days until he is retested.

DON'T FALL INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY BECAUSE NO ONE CAN SEE IT OR KNOW WHO IS INFECTED.

Now onto TRUMP.

Sure he's an asshole.

Imagine if he came on TV and said this will last 4 months? He can't win no matter what he says.

He is TRYING TO GIVE people HOPE to everyone and the hourly workers of AMERICA who make up the majority of jobs.

This SHIT won't peak for another 60-90. I was already told it's so unlikely KIDS will be back in school come SEPTEMBER. GOD I HOPE THAT'S WRONG.

STAY SAFE.

FYI:

Call all your creditors and they will freeze interest or defer payments. Can help for a month or two.

STAY HOME PEOPLE. IF YOU MUST GO OUT WEAR MASKS AND GLOVES. WIPE DOWN EVERY SINGLE ITEM YOU BRING HOME OUTSIDE BEFORE YOU BRING IT INSIDE. THE VIRUS SURVIVES LONGER ON CARDBOARD- PLASTIC AND METAL THEN HAIR AND CLOTHES. IF GO INSIDE A STORE STRIP YOUR CLOTHES OFF OUTSIDE IF POSSIBLE AND WASH IMMEDIATELY THEN SHOWER.
 

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I called my primary care doctor's office to be able to get tested at a urgent care. Would not give me the ok because I don't have any symptoms. I told her I worked for Albertsons but still no. :facepalm:
 

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We did a pickup at a local Target and I saw about 100 people in & out as I waited in mask and gloves in my car.
I saw 5 people with gloves and NO ONE with masks.

WE ARE FUCKED.

I promise I am not trying to pick a fight here but I have not seen any evidence that healthy people wearing masks does anything to stop the spread of the virus. Yes, I recognize that people can be ill and not know it, and certainly individuals have the right to do as they please to protect themselves. But as there is currently a shortage of masks, any mask bought by the general public is potentially taking one away from a health care worker. That has to be factored in as well.

This SHIT won't peak for another 60-90. I was already told it's so unlikely KIDS will be back in school come SEPTEMBER. GOD I HOPE THAT'S WRONG.

Another 60-90 days to peak? I don't think that's mathematically possible. We're currently in the midst of exponential growth, whereby cases double roughly every 2 days. If that continues - then everybody in the US gets it in the next 13 days. If the growth rate starts to slow (as we all hope), then it will take longer to reach the peak but would still suggest a peak in April. That would be consistent with what happened in China and the models I've seen. I think the bigger question is how long it takes to go from peak back down to 0 (or close to). Definitely can see that being 60-90 days from now.

Unlikely that kids go back to school in September? Obviously I don't know who told you that but it strikes me as just baseless pessimism. Not saying it's impossible but you can find wildly divergent models predicting where we'll be in just the next 2 weeks. Someone trying to predict what it looks like 5-6 months out might as well just be using a dartboard.
 

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