Thursday Hoops and Homework

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Last Night's Recap:

Recap
One Unit Selection:
LN: 1-2, -1.00
YTD: 12-10, +2.30

Two Unit Selection:
LN: 5-5, -.50
YTD:25-20, +7.10

Three Unit Selection:
LN: 1-1, -.30
YTD:9-8, +.60

Four unit Selection:
LN:
YTD: 3-0, +12.00

Overall:
LN: 7-8, -1.80
YTD:55-39, +36.50

Homeworks on last night's games and a look ahead to tonight coming right up.

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I REALLY LIKE SOME GAMES TONIGHT:

LAL
DAL
PORT
NYK

DEN/ORL OVER

ANY THOUGHTS??
 

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playsccr,

I have plenty of views and thoughts on those games and will post them shortly.
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Last night's card turned around nicely when the raptor's and the under cashed in the late game.

HomeWork

The most dissapopinting loss last night by far was the jazz game. Two things were already brought up about this game and they deserve repeating.

New Defense
The changes in defense has been a big problem for the jazz, and the pick and roll, (mentioned by gsp and others), and this will not be something that changes over night. "I don't think we quit," Malone said. "It's going to take a stretch to turn things around. I don't think it's a one-game fix we're working with here."

The jazz are becoming very frustrated with this and it showed last night.

Player Motivation
Second point was brought up by Nolan and others about players just quitting. Teams seem to be throwing in the towel and not caring when they lose to teams. There used to be a time when losing was bad enough but getting blown out was the worst, but not anymore.

"They quit," Sloan said after the Jazz lost 111-79 Wednesday night to the Atlanta Hawks. "I never had a team walk out while on the floor in my life. You'll have to go ask them why."

"NBA players who have been around a long time start playing games with you," Sloan said. "I thought we had some of that going on.

"Maybe it's me, maybe I've been here too long. But it'll work itself out. You'll either embarrass yourself or you'll straighten it out."

Last night the jazz embarrassed themselves.

It was the Jazz's most lopsided defeat since a 32-pointer at Portland on April 2, 1992.
"They whupped our ass from beginning to end," Bryon Russell said.
"I've never seen us play like that before," said Karl Malone. "Worse than high school."
Jazz coach Jerry Sloan was outraged at the lack of effort by his team (3-6). Last season, Utah did not lose its sixth game until Dec. 15

Usually when I see a team play like this they are usually looking ahead to a big game, but I don't think the wizards fit that bill, and I think the main reason has to do with the new defensive schemes. I usualy like to play a team off an embarassing loss as I did the bulls after the T-wolves game, but I will have to look very hard at the jazz until they come up with answers to the new defenses, and right no there are no answers.


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The Wiz may not be a big game for the Jazz, but playing Jordan is a big game for Malone. Do you think that could have affected his play last night?

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Zo is out at least 3 games
Star recuperating; Grant's foot injured
BY BARRY JACKSON
bjackson@herald.com


Already reeling from a poor start, the Heat received its worst news yet Wednesday when it learned Alonzo Mourning and Brian Grant will be sidelined indefinitely.

On the advice of his doctors, Mourning will miss at least three games to recuperate from an unknown illness that sidelined him for two games last week. Mourning will miss tonight's game at New York, Friday's game against Charlotte, and Tuesday's game against Minnesota.

Doctors will re-evaluate Mourning next week to determine if he can play Nov. 23 at home against Dallas.

Grant, meanwhile, is out at least five games -- and perhaps longer -- with a bone contusion in the instep on his right foot. Tonight, he will miss his first game since joining the Heat before last season.

Mourning has appeared sluggish in two games since returning from an illness that required five hours of hospitalization Nov. 6 and caused him to lose 7 pounds.

Doctors are not sure whether his sickness was food poisoning or a viral infection but believe he returned to the court too soon and needs to rest for at least a week.

Dr. Gerald B. Appel has said the illness is not related to Mourning's kidney disease, which is in remission. But because of his disease, Mourning is more susceptible to illness, and doctors want to take extra precautions.

Mourning declined to discuss his health Wednesday, but he indicated previously he felt weak and tired.

``He has to maintain his health,'' Heat coach Pat Riley said before Mourning's status was revealed. ``I think one thing everybody doesn't understand -- it's like a guy that's playing hurt. We don't see him limping, we don't see any bandage on him, but he's playing hurt.

``He doesn't want any compassion from anybody and he doesn't want it to be an excuse. That thing is something I don't know if I can control, he can control, or even the doctors can control. We just have to keep working at it and not condemn him because he's out there playing hurt and maybe not playing at the level some people think he should play at. I would try to rescue him as quick as I could if I could, but I can't because he wants to be out there playing.''

Grant did not speak to reporters Wednesday, but he told a Heat official he has been experiencing discomfort in his right foot since training camp. His foot will be immobilized for 10 days. He will then be re-evaluated.

Time missed due to bone contusions can vary. Some players can return after missing just a few games. Former Heat forward Jamal Mashburn missed 26 games with a contusion in his left knee during the 1997-98 season.

Grant has struggled early this season, averaging 10 points and 5.1 rebounds. He had played in 89 consecutive games, the longest on the team but well short of Glen Rice's club record of 174. The earliest Grant might return is Nov. 27 against Boston.

With Rod Strickland staying in South Florida with a hamstring injury, only nine of the Heat's 12 active players are available tonight, although forward Malik Allen and center Ernest Brown are eligible to come off the injured list. Vladimir Stepania, Sean Marks and Chris Gatling will share time at the power positions while Mourning and Grant are out.



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dawgball,

I agree that malone is probably looking forward to playing jordan, but can't hink that was the reason the whole team played so poorly.

A couple of other things I noticed when doing homework last night.

Sixers/Hornets

The Hornets have not looked very well all season and once mckie gets back into the lineup the sixers should be ready to make a run. Although Iverson's shot was a little rusty his court presence changes the whole game as he demands double teams. He also displayed great teamwork on the court by being very unselfish with the rock, as he even gave up a dunk on the breakaway to another player.


Pacers/Celtics
The one thing that sticks out on this pacer team is how poorly they start games. In the last seven games they are 1-6 after the first half su. They have only led once in that span and that was against a banged up sixer team. Over those seven games they have been outscored 368-330, which comes out to an average of 53 to 47. Although the pacers have mounted some great comebacks in the second half It would seem that going against the pacers if they are getting less than five points against a solid team or on the road would be a nice angle thus far.
The celtics also have something to keep an eye on. The rookie Joe Johnson, he may be the piece the celtics needed and so far he fits right in. Johnson has played 226 minutes over seven games - and has two turnovers. Two. Last night he picked up his second, an errant toss midway through the first quarter.


''He just seems to have a way about him which is smooth. He doesn't seem to make many bad decisions when he has the basketball,'' said Celtics coach Jim O'Brien. ''He makes the right play almost every time. And that is an unbelievable trait to have, to be able to score and have the assist-turnover ratio that he has [25 to 2].''

The Celtics told us on the night of the draft that they had themselves a player in the Razorback. They told us to wait and see. We nodded politely and said, ''Well, let's wait and see. He's a rookie.'' You rarely win in this league with rookies forced to play a major role. Unless, that is, they are rookies in name only. And that is what we seem to have in Johnson.


''I don't see myself as a rookie when I'm out there,'' he said. ''I see myself as a player.''


Funny, but before the game, an identical description was offered up by Indiana assistant coach Brendan Malone.


''He lets the game come to him,'' Malone said. ''He can put it on the floor and beat you off the dribble. He can make the outside shot with range. He's a player. He's a player.''

Now on to tonight's games.

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As he was leaving the locker room, Pierce was asked if the team had, at last, finally found its third scoring option.


''Third option? The way he's going, he might be our first option,'' he said.
 

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One last homework note on the pacers:

The pacers lost consecutive games for the first time this year, and both of those games O'neil was either out or hurting, he could be a very key member of this team as so far they are losing without him. Just a thought.

Okay Now on to tonight's games.

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Just a thought to add to the homework section. For what its worth< i see almost all the Wizards games. This team, like last year, is still bad. But there is one key difference that I feel can be exploited, obviously it's Jordan. Jordan and his competitive nature will not allow this team to get blown out. Thus, I look to play the Wizards in the 2nd half of any game in which they are down by at least double digits in the first half. I don't know how this will play out for the season, just something to think about, I played the Wiz in the 2nd Half last night and it was a winner, so just thought I would bring it up.
 
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