Thursday: Manhattan -5.5

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I made the mistake Tuesday of trying to second-guess Vegas; seems they just don't know the MAAC.

Manhattan turns it on every year in January to league play, but this Jasper team is the best I've seen in the last couple of years.

Manhattan seemed to rev it up in their big win at MSG over St. Johns just at Christmas, where they were 8.5 point dogs and won SU by 6.

Including the game before that at Hofstra, Manhattan is 5-1 ATS in their L6 and they've established themselves as the class of the MAAC with wins over Marist, Iona, Siena and Niagara.

I'll leave the team analysis up to Box who's better at that stuff than me, but I'll tell you that -5.5 is too low for this one.

- Jon
 

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I'd lean to Siena in this one but I'm not playing it. Siena is something like 11-1 ATS and sooner or later this streak is going the other way.

I'm also on:

Fresno State +1

Denver -8
 

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I see Manhattan winning by DD, also love the denver play this evening! They have been playing very well at home lately. GL on whatever you all play..Cabo...
 

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Tyler --

I changed my mind on Siena now they're that at PK.

I now think they're worth a shot: In league play, Siena is 4-1 ATS while Cansius is 0-5 ATS.

I know Cansius' coach is yelling and screaming at the team but I just don't think they have the personnel. Siena is just a better team.

FWIW I also like Niagara -9. Niagara was my pick Tuesday nite and if you followed that game they were actually up with about 2 minutes to go but got outscored 9-2 in the final 1:30 to blow my bet.

- Jon
 

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FWIW MAAC teams are 14-9-1 ATS on the road so far this year in league play; without Cansius they're 14-5-1.

So much for the home team always covering.
 

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thanks for the quick reply superbook

Yeah i had siena as a pick at the time i sent the messege and it really jumped out at me.

I knew you would have better info on them then i could find.

Also do you anything about eastern washington???

They have been really hot lately and i was kind of surprised to see the spread at 9.5 against northern arizona. Seemed kind of high, Do you have any info on that game or are you just passing?


GL and i just played siena at +1 actually (sbg global)




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If Niagara had no answer for Karangwa then I doubt Cansius has either.

Failures down stretch bring Eagles to Earth

JOHN HICKEY/Buffalo News
Niagara's James Reaves looms while Siena's Michael Haddix makes his move.

LEWISTON - Niagara coach Joe Mihalich was almost apologetic for not giving an answer full of deep insight, but none was needed.
Why did the Purple Eagles fail down the stretch of Tuesday's 78-73 loss to Siena in the Gallagher Center? Mihalich cut straight to the chase.

"It sounds overly simplistic to say it but at the end of the game at crucial times, you have to make some plays," Mihalich said. "They made them, we didn't."

The Purple Eagles were outscored, 9-2, in the game's final two minutes as Siena (10-4, 4-1) pulled into a second-place tie with Manhattan in the Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference. A crowd of 1,218 saw the Purple Eagles (6-8, 2-3) fall into a sixth-place tie with Marist.

Niagara had a 71-69 lead before Siena senior Prosper Karangwa fired a wicked crosscourt pass to sophomore Tommy Mitchell to set up an open three-pointer from the left corner. That put Siena ahead for good, 72-71, with 1:40 to play.

On Niagara's next possession, the Purple Eagles went inside to 6-foot-7 sophomore Juan Mendez, who poured in 17 of his 21 points in the second half. But Siena forward Justin Miller, the former Southwestern Central star, blocked Mendez's shot and the Saints eventually got possession.

"I was a little shocked but it happens," Mendez said. "I tried to go up as strong as I can and get an easy shot but he (Miller) just got to it."

Karangwa hit two free throws with 38 seconds left to make it 74-71. Niagara's David Brooks canned a layup with 27 seconds left but Siena freshman Michael Haddix cooly hit two free throws with 25.5 ticks on the clock to put the Saints up, 76-73.

Niagara worked the clock to 7.3 seconds before calling a timeout. When play resumed, guard Rhossi Carron had an open three-pointer that rattled in and out.

Niagara's James Reaves corraled the rebound and called timeout with 1.1 seconds left - but NU had none left and was charged with a technical foul. Karangwa hit two free throws to put the game away.

"If you want to be a team that's going to compete for a championship, you have to find ways to win games like this on the road," said Siena coach Rob Lanier, the Buffalo native who led the Saints to the NCAA Tournament last season as a rookie head coach.

It was an especially tough defeat for Niagara, which lost to Siena in last year's MAAC Tournament championship game. With Mendez controlling the paint despite being in foul trouble, the Purple Eagles looked like they were going to pull off a big comeback.

Mendez got his fourth foul with 12:43 left and NU leading, 51-49. When he returned four minutes later, Siena had a 64-56 lead. Niagara immediately went to work with Mendez and Tremmell Darden (17 points) combining for all the points in a 13-2 burst that put the Purple Eagles in front, 69-66, with 4:54 left.

But Karangwa drilled a trey with 2:48 to go to tie the score at 69-69. Mendez put NU back ahead with a jumper 18 seconds later but it was Niagara's last lead.

Mendez had eight rebounds, with all five of his offensive boards coming in the second half. He leads NU in both scoring (18 points) and rebounds (8.9).

"When the ball goes up there and it's a miss, I'm just thinking to go and get it," Mendez said.

"We're past being surprised at how good a player Juan is," Mihalich said. "We've come to expect it. Everybody knows what a good player he is. . . . He played like a man possessed there for a while."

While Mendez was Niagara's go-to guy, the Purple Eagles had no answer for the 6-6 Karangwa, who collected 22 points, eight rebounds, eight assists and three steals. Karangwa had 31 points in last year's NCAA Tournament victory against Alcorn State.

"He kept his composure," Mihalich said. "He played like a senior, a leader and an all-league player."

"He led us tonight," Lanier said. "He just wasn't going to let us lose."

Miller also played a key role for Siena. The junior finished with six points, six rebounds (five offensive) and three assists.

The Purple Eagles host St. Peter's Thursday night while Siena stays in town to play Canisius Thursday in the Koessler Center.
 

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This doesn't sound good; either play Siena or pass.

Canisius' streak hits unlucky seven
By RODNEY MCKISSIC
News Sports Reporter
1/15/2003

Canisius commits a cluster of turnovers, plays inadequate defense and loses another game. These have been familiar themes during the Golden Griffins' losing streak, which reached seven games after Tuesday night's 76-71 loss to Fairfield in front of 1,266 in the Koessler Center.
A few more games like this and Canisius is not going to have a cheerful experience playing in the Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference. Coach Mike MacDonald is so irritated with the turnovers and unpredictable defense that he's considering personnel changes and reevaluating his defensive schemes.

"Minutes will get changed," said MacDonald, whose team is 5-9 overall, 1-4 in the MAAC. "Defense is such a thing that you can't have four guys playing it, you can't have three guys, you have to have five guys playing at the same level and the same understanding. If you do that, you can be pretty good. . . . For whatever reason, we've lost that edge."

Part of the reason Tuesday may have been te play of Fairfield (9-5, 5-0), which has won three conference games on the road and figures to be difficult to beat when it steps into March. But somehow the Stags have to rid themselves of the nasty habit of building big leads and letting them slip away. Fairfield led, 68-50, with 7:37 remaining after a layup by Ajou Deng before Brian Dux (25 points, three steals) and Hodari Mallory (18 points, eight rebounds) led a furious Canisius comeback by forcing turnovers.

The Golden Griffins trimmed the lead to 72-69 with 22 seconds left but Fairfield guard Terrence Todd made two free throws to put the game away. Fairfield led by 16 points against Rider in its last game before pulling out a 66-59 win.

Canisius hasn't won since blowing out Morgan State, 72-46, on Dec. 17.

"We've had bad turnovers at inopportune times and we've had defensive lapses whether it's mentally or not guarding hard enough," MacDonald said. "All those things add up. You have to play perfect then and no one is going to play perfect."

Turnovers are the bane of a college basketball coach, but MacDonald can live with about 12 - not the 18 that the Golden Griffins suffered against Fairfield. During the losing streak, Canisius has averaged just over 14.

"In two of our last three games, Iona and this one, we're better off throwing it to our cheerleaders and at least setting our "D' ," MacDonald said.

Canisius has held opponents under 40 percent shooting in seven games, including five of the last 10, but the Stags shot 44.1 percent for the game and 56.5 in the second half. Kudjo Sogadzi (18 points) drove hard to the basket, at times uncontested, and got enough clean looks at the basket to connect on 8 of 11 shots. At one point this season, the Golden Griffins were ranked in the top 15 in the nation in defensive field-goal percentage.

"We had great chemistry at the beginning of the year," Mallory said. "We came out and everyone was ready to play. Everyone played defense, from the (opening) tip to the end. In the past couple of games, our confidence is down and some people have lapses during the game, or the team has lapses in the game, and we can't have those."
 

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Superbook-

Aren't most of these schools in NY or Connecticut? Probably shorter bus rides than the schools in the MAC or Horizon have so it may be easier for the road teams to win/cover. I saw Marist on TV a couple weeks ago and it looked like a high school game. Not real big crowds by any means.
 

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Tyler --

I've been riding Eastern Washington's winning streak but I'm laying off of this one.

Good chance of a little letdown tonite at home after EWU had those two nice wins in Montana.

Northern Arizona swept both games vs Eastern last year with the greatest margin of victory being 7.

NAU has a pretty good D and I think this will be relatively low-scoring with both teams in the 60s.

Therefore I think 9.5 is too many here. I'm passing.

- Jon
 

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SUPERBOOK...NOT QUESTIONING ANYONES OPINION BUT I THINK THAT SIENNA LINE IS RIGHT ON POINT...

LOOKING AT THE PAST FEW YEARS ...THIS IS NOT A PLACE SIENNA LOOKS FORWARD TO GOING...

LAST YEAR SIENNA BEAT CAN. AT HOME BY CLOSE TO 20 POINTS THEN WENT TO CANIS. AND LOST BY 12

IN 2001 THEY PLAYED THREE TIMES...CANIS BEAT SIENNA TWICE BY 18 POINTS AT HOME...WHEN THEY WENT TO SIENNA THEY LOST BY 7 POINTS..

THIS SEASON...CANIS WENT TO SIENNA IN DEC. AND LOST BY 8 POINTS...THIS GAME LOOKS LIKE A SET UP TO ME...IF THE PAST HISTORY DICTATES ANYTHING IT IS THAT CANIS WILL WIN TONIGHT...I AM NOT SAYING THIS WILL HAPPEN BUT THE LAST FEW YEARS BETWEEN THESE TEAMS SEEMS TO SAY SIENNA WILL HAVE ITS HANDS FULL TONIGHT...

THIS GAME POPPED OUT TO ME AS WELL BUT NOW THAT IM LOOKING INTO IT I CAN SEE WHY THE LINE DROPPED 2 POINTS OVERNIGHT


GOOD LUCK TONIGHT...COOZ
 

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Cooz --

Maybe you're right, guess we'll find out tonite.

To me it seems like Siena is a different more confident team since last year's NCAA appearance.

I do hate it though when the line moves against me like that.

- Jon
 

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Cooz -- you were right about Siena but fortunately the big play on Manhattan came thru for me.

Line movement had me a little worried, especially when Rider came back to tie the score at 43-43.
 

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Thanks Superbook

Thanks Superbook

I saw Manhattan and denver out there but your write up pulled me in. I even took Manhattan in the first half. 3 winners...building for Sunday.
 
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