BahamaMama said:would this be a bad time to say go HAWKEYES
"The SCHEDULE ratings represent the average schedule difficulty faced by each team in the games that it's played so far. The schedule
difficulty of a given game takes into account the rating of the opponent and the location of the game."
but they [ASU] would get ripped by boise, lsu, louisville, and virginia to name four teams off the top of my head ahead of them in the AP poll.
Scott4USC said:gman2 always enjoy reading your opinion and glad you agree with me on 9/10 selections. I agree you can make argument for ASU not being ranked in the top 10, but you didn't say who you would replace them with. Boise St.? Lousiville? LSU? Wiscy?
Let me tell you why I have ASU ranked #9. (not just to get posters excited )
ASU is 9-2 with their 2 losses coming against #4 ranked CAL @CAL and against #1 ranked USC @ USC. That is pretty tough if you ask me! I think USC would prob. have at least 1 loss if USC had to travel to play @CAL and @OU. You could argue that 6 of the top 10 teams in the country would lose to both USC and CAL this season on the road.
ASU has some impressive wins in OOC play. ASU played at the time #11 ranked Iowa and beat them 44-7. Iowa is currently a top 3 team in the Big 10 AND ranked #17 nationally. ASU also beat current top 25 ranked UTEP 41-9 to open the season and then went on to play @Northwestern and won. NU is a decent Big 10 team this year. That is an impressive OOC record and results!
ASU currently has a SOS ranked #2 nationally according to Jeff Sagarin. Here is how he calculates SOS and it seems fair and logical to me.
That all said, you are not impressed enough with ASU to rank them #9 nationally? Their only 2 losses have been against 2 top 5 nationally ranked opponents and were both AWAY games. ASU also played in impressive OOC schedule and passed the test with flying colors. A #2 SOS should be rewarded IMO.
Lastly, ASU was completely blown out by USC, but they did hang in their against CAL to some extent. So your numbers of how ASU was outscored is somewhat misleading in my opinion.
So gman2, did I convince you to rank ASU #9 nationally? Or did I at least get you to respect ASU a little more?
LSU, Louisville, and UVA would not rip ASU. Boise on the road would lose to ASU, but ASU (like any team) might/would struggle @Boise.
On a neutral field I think ASU would beat Boise and Louisville. ASU against LSU and UVA would be great games with either team winning. I don't see much of an argument you could make with LSU or UVA being more impressive than ASU and we all know that ASU has been much more tested! UVA and LSU would both get smoked by USC and CAL.
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