Well here goes guys you might get screwed on this because when 8)Elvis(8 agree it is the kiss of death. E.A. Didddle huge adv. for the Toppers. going to play WKY. Also like UW-Milw over butler. if these to go the way i hope could improve record to 23-11. my fingers are crossed these two games are going to be tight against the ats. GL