Tribe +220 against the fishermen

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This might be the homer in me, but I was really surprised by the series odds in this one. Granted Cleveland's starting pitching has been shaky all year, but they have turned it up a notch down the stretch. The Tribe will also be throwing two lefties at the fishermen in the first three games.

Tribe has been resting since clinching, while the anglers have been swept up in setting the all time wins record. Only to fall short last nite and have to get up again for game 1 of the series tomorrow. While Garcia is a fine pitcher, he is a righty that the Tribe has faced a few time this year with moderate success. Colon, who should be on, can be every bit as good, if not better than Garcia. I will try and dig up some stats tonite.

Finley goes in game 2 against Moyer. While puss throwing Moyer dominated the Tribe the two times he faced them in August this year, they did touch up the guy a couple of times last year. Finley hasn't been to the post season in over 10 or so years and has been quoted in the papers as telling the younger guys to not take it for granted, give it all you have, etc. He is very excited and determined to pitch well. If the Tribe can show a little patience against Moyer and Finley pitch like Finely can, the Tribe has a decent shot in this one as well.

Game three is the Tribe's best chance to win a game. Sele is a slightly above average pitcher (I know he has nice numbers) that the Tribe has handled in the past. Sabathia is the lefty rookie phenom that the M's have yet to face. He does have problems keeping runners on base, so if Ichiro gets on, that could get to his head. But I think C.C. has the character to pitch well in his first playoff game.

Other areas to watch:
Diamond Gate. Vizquel and Rhodes got into a very heated argument where benches cleared in an August meeting. Vizquel got into Rhodes' head by telling the Ump to have Rhodes' earrings removed because of the glare. Rhodes took serious exception to this. The next game he gave up the game winning hit.

Ichiro. I wouldn't be surprised to see Colon plant one damn near Ichiro's head in his first at bat. They need to do something to keep this psuedo rookie from getting on base. Something the Tribe has not been able to do in the 7 meetings thus far.

The Comeback: The Tribe came back from 12 runs down to these harpooners in August in the largest comeback in some crazy amount of time. Tribe also came back in their only other win against the M's this year. They've had success against Nelson, so you can't count them out when trailing late.

I'll be playing the Tribe to win the series, although I'm sure my locals won't be giving any of that +220. I'd like to hear some other projections on this series. I'll try and post the hitters' breakdowns as soon as I get some time.

Good luck whichever way you play it.
 

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buck if you like the tribe,wait till after today's game. you will probably get +320-340.
 

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INDIANS ...GOOD HITTING STOPS GOOD PITCHING!
LIKE RAMS OFFENSE LAST NIGHT.....NO NEED TO
OUT- THINK YOURSELF ON THIS ONE...
BOTH TEAMS ARE GOOD OR THEY WOULD NOT BE HERE.
OH YEA: one more thing: CLEVELAND ROCKS!
 

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Thunder:

Thanks. I respect your opinion and cringed a bit when I saw your strong play on Seattle in the series. Problem with waiting until tomorrow to play them is I think the Tribe's best chance to get a win in Seattle is today. Moyer has been lights out against them this year. Although he is only 3-7 against the Tribe before that.

While Colon's numbers during the day are a bit shaky, this is the playoffs and I can validate throwing out that trend. The hitting I believe is equal. As long as Tribe pitchers are smart with Martinez.

I rate the line ups as follows:

Lofton vs. Ichiro: Adv. Ichiro
Lofton experience, Ichiro everything else.

Vizquel vs. McLemore: Adv. Vizquel
Vizquel, although having a down year, did bat .344 against Seattle this year.

Alomar vs. Boone: Even
Best hitter in AL in Alomar against the turn around kid who is having a career year. Will be interesting to see how Boone performs in playoffs. Alomar is a bitch in the playoffs and will give 120%. Almost went with Alomar here. Alomar is also batting .500 against Garcia.

Gonzalez vs. Martinez: Big Adv. Martinez
Martinez loves Tribe pitching. He especially gobbles up Wickman's cheese and is batting .318 w/ 8 walks against Colon. Gonzalez disappeared down the stretch this year, against Seattle pitching all year, and in his last two playoff appearances. If the Tribe has a shot, he has to come around.

Thome vs. Olerud: Adv. Thome
Thome has more power, but more strikeouts and has only hit .160 against M's this year. Olerud is probably the only guy he is faster than. Olerud hits into too many DP's for a 5 man. Thome must hit better, and in the playoffs I think he will step up.

Burks vs. Cameron: Adv. Burks
Cameron doesn't like hitting in Safeco, and if Burks has fully recovered from his broken thumb, he is the better hitter, although slower.

Fryman vs. Martin/Javier: Adv. Fryman
I do not like Fryman. But he has come around after battling a bad elbow injury all year. Martin/Javier have not impressed me with their sticks. They're both woeful against Colon, but Stan has hit Finley well.

Cordova/Branyan vs. Wilson: Even
After a hot start, Cordova came back to reality. Branyan, if he even plays, will only get a hit (it will only be a homer) if someone hangs a curve. This guy is not ready. Wilson is simply pathetic in the playoffs.

Diaz vs. Bell: Even
Bell is coming off, and still may be bothered by a sore rib cage. He's had trouble with Tribe pitching batting .185. Diaz has little post season experience at the plate.

I think the Tribe is better offensively. Seattle has an edge in pitching, but I don't believe it warrants a -260 series price tag. This line also has the Best Record Ever and Ichiro hype built into it. We'll see how the fishermen handle playoff pressure, especially in Cleveland.

Again, Good Luck whichever way you play it.
 

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My opinion, but no way is Burks an advantage over Cameron. Cameron's defense alone gives him an edge. Add 100+ RBI's this season and his speed, he takes that matchup.
 

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Hoops:

I would take Burks over Cameron at the plate every time. Defensively, there is no question Cameron would run circles around him. I was only looking at it from the offensive side. Burks most likely won't even see the field in this series.
 

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Even my local doesn't think the Tribe has a chance. Playing:

Cleveland to win series +250
 

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Everyone one is on Seattle. If the Tribe wins the "Man" will be taking out his little woman tonight....................

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Buck- Right, I should have read more closely. Scratch my comments on defense. Even so, and taking into account Cameron having 100 more AB's, Cameron's going over 100 RBI's and having 34 SB's this particular season makes him the more dangerous player at the plate of the two, at least in my mind.

Good luck with the Tribe!
 

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I think Cleveland is great value on the run line: +1.5 and -110. I think runs will be hard to come by. Seattle has almost patented the one run win and with Colon on the mound, I think the M's won't get that many.
 
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