Troop Withdrawl Vote

[BigSix]

There are several news reports that there will be a vote tonight in Congress for immediate troop withdrawal from Iraq. This is partly due to the emotional speech that John Mutha gave yesterday and his resolution to withdraw the nearly 160,000 troops at the earliest predictable date.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1326775

Congressman Murtha has a Bronze Star and two Purple Hearts earned in Vietnam and makes weekly visits to Walter Reed Army Medical Center where our wounded soldiers are recovering.
Read what he has to say:
http://www.house.gov/apps/list/press/pa12_murtha/pr051117iraq.html

If you believe, like the majority of Americans, that it's time to bring our troops home then I urge you to send a quick email to your representive asking for their support of Murtha's resolution.
You can do that here. http://www.house.gov/writerep/

Here is the very simple email I sent:

Sir,
I have read that there will be a vote tonight for troop withdrawal from Iraq.
I ask that you support John Murtha and vote for the immediate troop withdrawal, it's time to bring them home.
Thank you,

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Didn't anyone read the intercepted Al Queda letter?

They said they were going to wait for the U.S. to cut and run then take over Iraq as their own state!!!

My god this isn't brain surgery! WAKE UP!! WE ARE AT WAR KILLING AL QUEDA!!!! Why surrender????

Why would we surrender??? We are not French. We are Americans. We don't bow down to terrorists. Well, I take that back. We are a Conservative nation, evidenced by the last 2 elections. Conservatives do not surrender to terrorists, liberals do.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Now AL Queda's Al Zarqawi is threatening to take the King of Jordan and chop his head off. Yesterday we took an F-16 and killed dozens of Al Queda terrorists in a safe house near the Syrian border.

Yeah, we better pack up and come home in defeat.

This is complete bullshit. You democrats are pathetic pussies.

 

[djv]

No surrender we won. All is accomplished. You didn't here Bush. Not to worry with 06 election on the way we will have 50 to 60 thousand home before that vote. The Reb's don't want to lose control. Just sit back and watch.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

If we cut and ran then Al Queda will take over. Real smart idea. That outta keep the world safe. lol

 

[dr. freeze]

The Democrats are Al Queada's best hope!!!

Cut and Run!!!

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Al Zarqawi - Kerry 2008!!!!!

 

[djv]

WE WON guys it's over. Bring home 25000 a month starting in 3 months. Replaced by that wonderful Iraq Army to take care of there own country. After all today we are told they have 100000 trained and ready to go. Don't you guys understand were not needed any more.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I'm sure if you put that up on terrorist website you'll get 100% participation in your favor--however I doubt if the millions of Iraq's going to vote 12-15 would be in favor--which brings me to a point.
With all due respect to Murtha there are many more that were there including commanders in Iraq right now that adamantly disagree.
1st it is difficult for me to fathom that Murtha would see it that way--but so be it and if anyone has right to voice his opinion it is he. What makes this fiasco so irresponsible to me is "the timing". You have less than a month until the 3rd phase of voting is complete. Millions have sacrificed their lives to vote in 1st 2 elections which would have never happened if not for our troops there.And to jump on this issue with less than a month to go and put doubts in their minds and hopes in terrorist is totally irresponsible. Why not discuss matter in privite about troop withdrawals AFTER election. While I have no doubt Burtha does not belong in this group I am convinced their are a some in congress that will do anything to foil success there.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

There are several news reports that there will be a vote tonight in Congress for immediate troop withdrawal from Iraq.

403 - 3 !!!!!!!!!


Gotta love that liberal CNN!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BigSix]

My post was asking to support Murtha and his resolution. The resolution that was rejected was not the one proposed by Murtha so, imo, rejection was the right thing to do.

The post was a bit misleading, my bad.

 

[djv]

BigSix how they handled this was a joke. It's about scared folks getting beat in next election. As low as Bush's polls are 37% Congress is at 34%.
I just wish Bush would stop saying we won and stay the course. He gives the enemy as much hope as the dissenters.

 

[spibble spab]

I'm glad, just like reagan, bush is not concerned about poll numbers.

Nation Building takes time. DJV its not like your premature ejac. All of those who oppose this reminds of children in the back seat of a car. "are we there yet? are we there yet?.."

 

[Chadman]

Here is what the resolution actually said, not that you want to deal with the FACTS, nor the TRUTH. The actual vote was done on a conservative resolution that changed the language of Murtha's actual proposed resolution...and why do you think they did that?

Murtha's resolution included language the Republicans wanted to avoid, such as "the American people have not been shown clear, measurable progress" toward stability in Iraq. It also said troops should be withdrawn "at the earliest practicable date."

Ok, now, conservative backslappers...is immediate withdrawal, which is what your conservatives manipulated and changed to be the language the same thing as "at the earliest practicable date?"

No, it isn't.

The American people are not that stupid. This is becoming common knowledge to anyone taking the time to not watch Fox News. And this will be a clear message to what the conservatives will do to avoid the issue.

Your party is sad. Desperate, and sad.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"It's about scared folks getting beat in next election." Certainly was--they set the trap knowing no one would survive voting to exit now. The election was won last time on who they they thought was stronger on defense. You don't see Hilliary stepping out on issue do you. Wisely not. Can't say it was really fair deal for Dems as it put them in no win situation (maybe Rove getting a little revenge) however they brought in on themselves.

Kerry's the one that tickles me--he did a little cut and running himself when they stuck swiftboats on river patrol and he puts in self nominated purple hearts without a stitch for ticket home after about 90 days in country. Of course most folks think he spent eternity there with all his 2nd hand knowledge and fictional events being "seared" in his mind. Fact is he spent much more time dissing the troops when he got home than he ever spent in Viet Nam

 

[djv]

DTB they need a plan or we will be there 10 years as with Nam.
If we believe they are ever going to stop the bombings in Iraq. Well you and I know more then most here we cant be every pace at once. We will have to come home knowing it will not stop. So we need a plan with the right words to get out when we feel we don't lose face. Somethings change and some just don't.

 

[Marco]

They've been cutting themselves up over there for centuries, and will continue to do so when we eventually leave....the only unknown is the body count of American troops before the US administration comes around to realize this fact...

The thought that Zarqawi has claimed to want the head of some king comes as no surprise to me....really shouldn't surprise anyone who even remotely knows the mindset of the middle east and it's rich tradition of violence....

Like djv said....We will have to come home knowing it won't stop.....pretty sound advice considering there are people on this planet who would still be having us fighting in Vietnam yet just so we could say we didn't lose....

 

[THE KOD]

. So we need a plan with the right words to get out when we feel we don't lose face. Somethings change and some just don't.

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Whose face are you hoping not to lose ?

Thats a pasty faced comment if I ever heard one.

 

[Marco]

"so we need a plan with the right words to get out when we feel we don't lose face."

Bush's exit strategy is to just "stay the course" and pass this whole plateful of $hit onto the next administration......

Then Bush can make some asinine comment about how "he tried" and that some other administration lost the war.

Whack-a-mole can go on for decades especially when you have no containment and no real plan other than to drive the hummer around until someone blows it up.

Military intelligence. :s4:

 

[kosar]

Nation Building takes time.

Really, huh? One of the things Bush ran on is that we were not in the business of nation building. A clear shot at us halting an ACTUAL genocide in Bosnia/Kosovo. To W, that apparently was a negative.