Tuesday's Ivy League Winner

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As soon as your book puts up their lines for Tuesday, get down big on:

Penn +1

Big Five champ Penn is 8-2 ATS on the road and if the Quakers lose this game their hopes of an Ivy league championship are over.

Penn or Princeton have each won six of the L12 Ivy titles and the two teams have accounted for 40 of the L45 Ivy championships.

This season Yale is 7-1, Princeton is 5-1 while Penn is just 3-3 but with 8 games to play a Penn win here could get the Quakers back into it as they play both Yale and Princeton again. If they pick up their 4th loss they're pretty much done. This is the only league in Division 1 without a post-season playoff so the league title is very important as the winner gets to go to the Big Dance.

Penn has much more talent, Onyewke and Koko Archibond may be the two best forwards in the league and transfer Andy Toole has added another dimension to their game.

Penn is a good team, they've gotten wins this season over Georgia Tech, Villanova, Temple, St. Joe's and LaSalle, and were up by 12 over Illinois at the half before losing that one.

This Princeton team is not as good their past teams, and the loss of leading scorer and #2 rebounder Forward Andre Logan last month to a torn ACL will probably hurt them bigtime in this game. The Tigers haven't seemed to have missed Logan; they're 5-1 since he went out at Harvard, but they've played a pretty soft schedule since then including Cornell, Columbia and Western Maryland whom they beat 78-24. IMO Yale exposed Princeton last Saturday as the weaker team; the Bulldogs held Princeton to just 37% from the field including 19% from the arc in their relatively easy 60-50 win.
 
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penn a strong play here. i bet against the quakers last friday night as i felt yale had the emotional edge and some good homecourt mojo working. turned around and bet penn strong the next night vs brown as i was confident quakers would dig in and play tough to stay in the conference hunt. right now i intend to play on penn throught the rest of the ivy games or at least until they lose.
 
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The game: the tables are turned ? Penn hoops travel to Jadwin tonight for premier rivalry of Ivy League basketball

By AUSTIN STARKWEATHER
Princetonian Senior Writer


'The Game' is tonight at 7:30. Penn and Princeton. Always the biggest game of the season. The rival schools have been the end-all of Ivy League men's basketball for decades. For the last 13 years, either the Tigers or the Quakers have nabbed the league's automatic bid to the NCAA tournament. Cornell has been the only other team to win the title in the last 34 years.

This year, though, the dominance was supposed to end. Brown, returning all of its starters from last year's third place team, was picked by ESPN.com to win the league. The Columbia squad, coached by Armond Hill '85, swept Penn and Princeton at home in 2001. And Harvard was a sleeper pick.

Surprisingly, the Bears, Lions and Crimson haven't challenged the hegemony of the P's. But another team has.

Yale has shocked the Ivies with a 7-1 start in the conference, including a sweep of Penn (16-6 overall, 3-3 Ivy League) and Princeton (10-8, 5-1) over the weekend. Saturday night, the Elis shut down the Tiger offense on their way to a 60-50 win and first place in the league. Princeton fell to second at 5-1. Penn is tied for fourth at 3-3.

So, tonight's game is different. It is the first time in 14 years that neither of the two teams are on top of the Ivies. If Penn loses this game, the Quakers are all but out of contention. Also, a loss for Princeton would put the Tigers yet another game behind Yale. And with the way Yale stifled the Princeton offense on Saturday night, it does not look as though the Elis will be losing many more games this season. Thus, although it is slightly early to say this, this game is almost a must-win situation for the Tigers.

How can Princeton keep from falling further behind the Elis? For one thing, Princeton cannot continue to shoot 19 percent (4-21) from behind the arc like it did on Saturday.

Besides being off their game, the reason the Tigers shot so poorly was solid defense from Yale. The Eli guards swarmed the perimeter, forcing bad shots from the Princeton offense, thus keeping the shooting percentage down. Also, the Elis understood the flow of the Princeton offense, keeping the Tigers' complicated passing scheme from effectively getting an easy back-door pass or an open player for a 15-foot jumper. And, without injured sophomore forward Andre Logan around to create opportunities by driving the ball to the basket, Princeton was forced to throw up poor shots time and again, finally shooting 37 percent from the field (22.7 percent in the second half).

Penn, with its athleticism, will try the same tricks against the Tigers that Yale did.

On defense, Princeton will have to control what might be the best shooting team in the Ancient Eight.

Yale leads the league in three point percentage (39.3 percent), is second in overall shooting (46.4 percent) and in free throw percentage (73.1).

Unlike Princeton, which goes deep in the roster during the game and starts a new formation during each outing, Penn has used the same five-player combination over the course of the season that has scored about 75 percent of the team's points.

Penn is led by guards Andrew Toole, Tim Begley and Jeff Schifner. The three are a deadly combination, easily capable of shooting the lights out on Princeton if the Tigers are slow around the perimeter. Their combined shooting from behind the arc is 43 percent.

Underneath, the Quaker attack is led by Ugonna Onyekwe and Koko Archibong, who at six foot, eight inches and 6'9" respectively, will be able to snare down the boards if Princeton senior guard Mike Bechtold and sophomore center Konrad Wysocki do not focus on boxing out.
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Superbook, is that you over at the other site too? Did not want anyone copying your plays is all.
 
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Antonio --

That's me. There aren't a whole lot of Ivy league cappers out there!!!! LOL

I use the Superbook name because a lot of guys in the gaming world know me because I used to work for Victor Chandler's US sportsbook of the same name.

I post several places as Superbook but someone already had it at the other place so that's why I use another handle.

Thanks for looking out for me.

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Penn-Princeton: For Quakers Fans Only
February 12


I was once told that I had supernatural powers. As a result, I have the ability to predict what our friends up the New Jersey turnpike are saying about the Penn men?s basketball team already.
The insults have been around for decades ? Penn is the safety school, the Kommunity Kollege of Filadelfia, the academic cellar dweller of the Ivy League.

We?ve heard it all. And because Princeton vigorously refuses to change the dynamics of its student body, I?m sure we urbanites will continue to hear the same lame insults year after year.

But nestled in the protected bosom of the Turnpike State, The College of New Jersey is not devoid of embarrassing traits itself.

The sweater vests aren?t fooling anybody. We all know that the Pussycats are a bunch of snobs that sit around discussing the correct angle of the pinky finger during their tea sessions.

Despite its superior etiquette, it seems that as of late, The College of New Jersey is continuously working to keep up with Penn ? appointing a female president just this year, only nine years after President Judy Rodin came to power in West Philly.

But really, the quality of our respective universities is not what this is all about.

We?re here to discuss basketball.

This season, I?m sure we?ll be subjected to a few more tasteless and vapid cutdowns than usual. Yes, it?s true, we have three losses in Ancient Eight play. One even came to Columbia.

But despite the recent setbacks, I have no doubt that the Quakers will be the far superior squad in tonight?s matchup.

Let?s start by talking about the Pussycats? non-conference schedule.

The College of New Jersey opened its season with a streak of losses, the most embarrassing of which was at Florida International, the 231st-best team in the country. Conversely, the Quakers annihilated the Golden Panthers, 75-49.

While the Red and Blue have taken down six nationally-respected non-conference programs, TCNJ?s best win is over Monmouth ? which boasts an RPI of 124 and plays in the same conference as noted basketball factories Wagner and Quinnipiac.

Apparently, TCNJ only played against Monmouth because Swarthmore, NYU, and Wellesley were unavailable.

However, the Pussycats were able to scrape out a victory over Division III Western Maryland, 78-24.

Congratulations!

Then, there?s the matter of the vaunted back-door offense.

While it?s hard enough to draw fans to Ancient Eight games, it really doesn?t help that the Old Nassau crew insists on playing like it was 1937.

The Pussycats will take a total of 11 shots at the ol? peach basket tonight, but rest assured they?ll pass the ball at least 45 times before each attempt.

The back-door offense is old ? no one wants to see a group of white boys dwindle the shot clock down to the final second on every possession.

And just so you Princeton fans don?t soil your Dockers, Penn forward Ugonna Onyekwe has been known to ?slam dunk? nearly every single game.

This means he will take the orange spherical object, rise high above the rim, ?slam? it emphatically through the basket ? and down the throats of every single preppy undergraduate who overpaid to attend your God-forsaken school.

So, Pussycats fans, when you go to the game tonight, don?t be surprised when the Quakers walk out of your poor excuse for a gym with an 87-6 victory. Just take solace in the fact that you can walk to your Eating Club and enjoy a nice filet mignon to heal your wounds.

Amy Potter
The Daily Pennsylvanian
 
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Penn-Princeton: Quakers, Tigers Meet in Unfamiliar Situation
February 12


Penn and Princeton have historically reigned as the class of the Ivy League.
Between them, the Quakers and the Tigers own 40 of the 45 Ivy men?s basketball championships since the league was formed in 1956-57. And, over the past 13 seasons, no other Ancient Eight team has won a title.

In Princeton?s march to the Ivy title last season, it used two wins over second-place Penn to propel itself to the crown ? including a 68-52 blowout at Jadwin Gymnasium on Mar. 6, 2001, in the final regular season game.

But with a host of new contenders emerging, this year?s title race may not consist of the same Penn-Princeton duke-it-out-for-the-NCAA-bid battle.

At 7-1 , Yale ? not Penn or Princeton ? is the current Ancient Eight leader.

While the Tigers are second in the conference at 5-1, Penn is a distant fifth, with a disappointing 3-3 mark.

This raises the question ? with neither team leading the Ivy pack, has the matchup lost some of its luster? The Quakers don?t seem to think so.

"It?s Penn-Princeton, this is why you come to play in the Ivy League," Penn freshman guard Tim Begley said.

With Penn trailing Yale by two games, this year?s first Penn-Princeton matchup will have a decidedly different flavor than years past. When the Quakers tip off with the Tigers tonight at Jadwin Gym at 7:30 p.m., they will do so with their backs against the wall. A fourth loss in the Ivies would almost certainly squash Penn?s title hopes, eliminating almost any shot at an NCAA tournament bid.

?We have four losses, and it?s over,? junior guard David Klatsky said. ?Everybody has to realize we need this game and play like we need it.?

Realizing the game?s magnitude should not be hard for the Quakers ? especially when a sea of Black and Orange taunts their every move.

?I think it?s great playing there,? Klatsky said. ?We know the gym will be packed. It?s just a great atmosphere for basketball.?

While Penn heads into tonight?s contest fresh off an 84-74 victory over Brown on Saturday night, the Tigers enter the game following a 60-50 loss to the Elis. Despite starting the second half tied at 30, Princeton could not keep pace down the stretch.

Momentum, it seems, should be in Penn?s favor if the Quakers can play a second straight solid game. However, with the Jekyll-and-Hyde Quakers, two consecutive strong efforts are by no means a guarantee.

?I wish had the answer,? Penn coach Fran Dunphy said. ?I think it?s just a total team focus that everybody has to have.?

The Red and Blue will need to have this focus for a full 40 minutes if they want to have a shot at beating a solid Princeton squad.

After losing leading scorer Andre Logan to injury earlier this season, balance has defined the Tigers? offense. All of Princeton starters average between 6.9 and 8.6 points per game, with senior Mike Bechtold leading the way with 8.6 ppg on 42 percent shooting from the floor.

?Bechtold is a real good player,? Begley said. ?You give him an open look and you?re dead.?

Last season, it was another Princeton player ? Ahmed El-Nokali ? who was the thorn in the Quakers? side, leading the Tigers in scoring in each of their double digit wins. Despite the quality of his starters, Princeton coach John Thompson III is not hesitant to go to his bench. Including the starting-five, the Tigers have eight players who average double figures in minutes.

The majority of those minutes are spent playing skin-tight defense and weaving in-and-out of the offensive key, as Princeton maximizes the shot clock on nearly every offensive possession.

?They have a lot of interchangeable parts,? Dunphy said. ?Basically anybody can hurt us.?

For Penn to score consistently against Princeton?s defense, the Quakers? point guards ? Klatsky and Andrew Toole ? will need to be able to penetrate.

After an up-and down-weekend, Penn is counting on the Elon transfer, Toole, to rise to the occasion in his first matchup with the Tigers.

?Andy got himself into foul trouble on Friday night and he didn?t do so well,? Dunphy said. ?And then Saturday night he played great.?

Effective penetration by Penn?s guards should translate into inside scoring ? a weakness for the Quakers last weekend. In the two Ivy games, Penn was outscored by 28 points on the blocks.

?Our big guys are really going to have to respond,? Dunphy said.

With Penn and Princeton nearly even in terms of talent, the season?s first clash between the Ivy titans will be decided by the intangibles.

?We have no advantages,? Dunphy said. ?We just need a little bit of intelligence, a little of bit of hard work and a lot of heart and we can get it done.?

Lance Stier
The Daily Pennsylvanian
 
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PENNSYLVANIA QUAKERS TEAM STATS
THROUGH MONDAY, FEBRUARY 11
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PENNSYLVANIA QUAKERS
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REBOUNDS
G MIN PPG RPG APG OFF- DEF- TOT AST STL BLK TO PF

Ugonna Onyekwe 22 673 17.3 5.4 2.1 29- 90- 119 47 22 31 47 61
Koko Archibong 22 662 15.3 5.6 1.7 43- 80- 123 37 21 24 48 80
Andy Toole 18 524 13.6 2.6 3.6 9- 37- 46 65 24 0 57 44
Jeff Schiffner 22 703 10.6 4.4 2.3 15- 81- 96 50 26 5 32 43
Tim Begley 22 663 6.7 4.0 3.0 16- 72- 88 66 16 4 29 43
Adam Chubb 16 197 4.1 1.9 0.3 18- 12- 30 5 3 5 10 35
David Klatsky 22 478 3.7 2.1 3.4 8- 39- 47 74 14 0 28 39
Jan Fikiel 20 185 2.2 1.4 0.7 11- 16- 27 14 6 6 9 20
Charlie Copp 19 203 2.1 0.8 0.8 3- 13- 16 15 5 0 13 18
Duane King 15 92 1.6 0.7 0.2 2- 9- 11 3 6 1 11 9
Nameir Majette 2 2 1.0 0.5 0.0 0- 1- 1 0 0 0 0 0
Andrew Coates 10 64 0.6 0.6 0.6 2- 4- 6 6 3 1 6 14
Dan Solomito 10 44 0.0 0.2 0.4 1- 1- 2 4 3 0 3 4
Jon Tross 5 7 0.0 0.0 0.0 0- 0- 0 0 0 1 2 0
Patrick Lang 2 1 0.0 0.0 0.0 0- 0- 0 0 0 0 0 0
Conor Tolan 2 2 0.0 0.0 0.0 0- 0- 0 0 0 0 0 0


FG 3PT FT
M-A PCT M-A PCT M-A PCT PTS HI

Onyekwe 146-285 .512 19-51 .373 69-109 .633 380 30
Archibong 111-212 .524 19-48 .396 95-119 .798 336 26
Toole 81-171 .474 36-84 .429 46-52 .885 244 22
Schiffner 75-161 .466 45-105 .429 38-50 .760 233 23
Begley 45-116 .388 36-83 .434 22-28 .786 148 17
Chubb 23-46 .500 1-1 1.000 19-29 .655 66 13
Klatsky 25-68 .368 20-58 .345 12-19 .632 82 12
Fikiel 14-33 .424 0-1 .000 15-24 .625 43 8
Copp 13-39 .333 9-30 .300 4-4 1.000 39 7
King 9-26 .346 5-18 .278 1-4 .250 24 11
Majette 1-2 .500 0-0 .000 0-0 .000 2 2
Coates 3-7 .429 0-0 .000 0-0 .000 6 2
Solomito 0-6 .000 0-3 .000 0-1 .000 0 0
Tross 0-3 .000 0-1 .000 0-0 .000 0 0
Lang 0-0 .000 0-0 .000 0-0 .000 0 0
Tolan 0-2 .000 0-0 .000 0-0 .000 0 0
 
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Raymond et al --

I also always look at a leading concensus site on games that I'm playing, not at what the public is playing but at what their "experts" are playing.

Their "experts" on a game are the 10 guys with the best ATS records for the year on the two teams.

Of their 20 possible Princeton and Penn "experts", seven have weighted in on this game so far: 6 of the 7 are on Penn +1 including their #2 Princeton (7-1 ATS) and #5 Princeton (5-0 ATS) "experts".
 
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At SIA, you can get Penn +1.5.

However, you can also get Penn ML +110. $110 wins $121. This is BY FAR a better bet than taking the points and laying $110 to win $100.

That's giving up almost 20% of your money for the rare time that the game might fall on 1.

How rare? This season Penn has played 2 games out of 22 that was decided by 1 point. Princeton has played 0 games out of 18 that was decided by 1 point.

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