UFC 70 - Nations Collide - April 21st - Manchester, England

[kickserv]

hmmmmm.........could we have another huge upset......everybody and their dog thinks Cro Crop will destroy Gonzaga....could we have another big upset :shrug:

 

[kickserv]

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=3772&zoneid=13

 

[kickserv]

odds on Arlovski look damn good to me :com:


Mirko Cro Cop Filipovic -500
Gabriel Gonzaga +400


Michael Bisping -460
Elvis Sinosic +320


Andrei Arlovski -140
Fabricio Werdum +100

 

[layinwood]

Damn, I was hoping to get better odds on Werdum. I think he takes AA down in this one. If AA wins it will be a very big win for him. Werdum is a very good hw fighter. Not great but very good.

 

[kickserv]

layin.....heads up for ya...looks like huge money has been put on Arlovski......if ya want Werdum he's currently at nice odds at 5dimes

of course I like Arlovski so I'd stay away....but I thought I'd give ya the heads up :SIB

 

[layinwood]

Best I can find right now is a pickem, personally that's exactly what I think it should be. If you haven't seen Werdum fight then you should do a youtube search and watch him. I truely believe this is a horrible matchup for AA. If I can get + anything on the odds then I'll unload on this fight. Werdum by sub in the 2nd.

 

[kickserv]

he was at +115 at 5dimes.....but not any longer :SIB

 

[gardenweasel]

i really like the way bisping fights....very calm.....

of course,i haven`t seen him fight a warm body yet....

you`d think that if he`s really the goods that he`d handle sinosic......

a very decent "free" card...

 

[kickserv]

gardenweasel:

I like Bisping as well.....but he hasn't fought anybody any good....I think Sinosic (the vet) will give him a good fight.....I might take the big odds on Sinosic........I mean if GSP can lose....anybody can lose :SIB


and for us in Canada......we can watch it free (tape delay) on Spike Saturday night or watch it live on PPV in the early afternoon.........as for me I'm going to watch it live in the afternoon :SIB

 

[kickserv]

she likes Arlovski :SIB

http://myspace.com/panicpulse
(click on UFC 70 predictions)

 

[gardenweasel]

arlovski`s the dog now......i`m gonna watch those odds....

 

[layinwood]

Ouch, not waiting any longer.

Werdum -103 1.5 unit (wanted to do more but I thought I could get him in the +'s.)

 

[kickserv]

now I really really like Arlovski......nice odds...sweeeeeet :00hour

 

[layinwood]

Adding:

Kongo +191 .5unit (has a small chance to win, good odds)

Werdum +101 .5unit more total 2 units now


Parlay for the big favs

Crocop -501
Machida -311
Bisbing -501
These should all be easy winner :SIB


IMO I think Crocop at -501 is good odds. Gonzagas only chance is to beat Mirko on the ground and that's only been done once and it was by the best in Nog. And that happened 3.5 years ago, I'm sure Mirko's ground defense has improved tremendously in 3.5 years.

If I had big balls I would take a chance on Mirko straight but I don't so i'll just keep him in a parlay.

GLTA

 

[layinwood]

Forgot to ask if anyone read the interview with GSP's manager. I'm pretty dissapointed in GSP, sounds like he was busy living the life and not training. I believe he said George only trained for 3 weeks, went to Europe for a week the month before the fight, got sick from that trip just didn't do what he needed to training wise. I think that girl he's dating from the UFC show probably has him turned all around, she would me. :SIB

 

[kickserv]

chicks.....they'll get ya every time :SIB


and GSP will have the belt again.....in 6 months it'll be his :SIB

 

[kickserv]

UFC Record (since UFC 58)
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Prop Bet 1-2
Fighter versus Fighter 38-21
Parlays 16-15


+31.27 Joe Rogans



Arlovski beat Werdum $1.95 *2 Joe Rogans

(sorry layinwood)



this should be a great fight :SIB

 

[gardenweasel]

ryoto machida`s record?...insane...

Win Sam Hoger Decision (Unanimous) UFC 67-All or Nothing 2/3/2007 3 5:00
Win Vernon White Decision (Unanimous) WFA-King of the Streets 7/22/2006 3 5:00
Win Dimitri Wanderley TKO JF 6-Jungle Fight 6 4/29/2006 3
Win B.J. Penn Decision (Unanimous) K-1-Hero's 1 3/26/2005 3 5:00
Win Sam Greco Decision (Split) K-1 MMA-ROMANEX 5/22/2004 3 5:00
Win Michael McDonald Submission (Guillotine Choke) K-1-Beast 2004 3/14/2004 1 2:30
Win Rich Franklin TKO (Punches) Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye 2003-Inoki Festival 12/31/2003 2 1:03
Win Stephan Bonnar TKO (Cut) JF 1-Jungle Fight 1 9/13/2003 1 4:21
Win Kengo Watanabe Decision (Unanimous) NJPW-Ultimate Crush 5/2/2003 3

wins over vernon white..penn...franklin....bonnar....and k-1 legend michael mcdonald?.....and hoger`s decent......


that`s pretty damned impressive...

 

[gardenweasel]

weigh in photos and misc stuff..

http://www.sherdog.com/news/pictures.asp?n_id=7317

 

[layinwood]

GW, those are some nice wins but the weight on some of those made for mis matches. Penn fights 2 or 3 weights below him, Franlin 1 below him and we all know that very few of the K1 guys do well in mma.

Saying that, I think if both Liddell and Machida win that it will be them in the cage next. I think Machida could make for an interesting fight against him.

Any guesses to what the Liddell Jackson odds will be?