Unemployed now 6.1%. Take home pay down 1.1%. Stock Mkt in chitter. John Mc Cain attackes his own party. Mainly Bush and his last 8 years. Says he differant. Better sell it John, at least try.
Unemployment Up Ouch!
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yeah i am seeing it in the rental market where i am....3 years ago i put a condo on the rental market....& it was rented in 2 days.....now 3 years later, after doing some remodeling have the same condo back on the market & asking $25 less a month & i have not gotten a nibble after 2 weeks....very unusual.
Lets tax business and capital gains and take more money out of the economy and make less jobs
But we will make up for it by having the government paying millions of young Americans to "community organize" and go do protests and break windows
Thats change we need!
But we will make up for it by having the government paying millions of young Americans to "community organize" and go do protests and break windows
Thats change we need!
It is Clinton's fault and the Congress for the last two years and the increase in the minimum wage that the democratic congress passed.That should be clear to everyone.
As the wacko doctor suggests, lets do more trickle down Reagonomics which has sooooo succesfully worked where lower taxes and you give more money to American companies and they, because they are so patriotic and love America so much, will make more money and reinvest it in the good old USA and not in their executives pockets, but rather will create great and wonderful high paying jobs right here in the USA and not in evil old India and China where labor is cheap and it would be so unamerican. Yeah this has worked so well for 8 years under the Lord God Ronald Reagan and 4 yeaars under His Lord Prince George H.W. Bush and 8 years of the evil but acceptable jokster Billy Clinton who gave us NAFTA but then the return of the Son of God for 8 years, George W. Bush.
Now we want 4 years of lower taxes for corporations to send more jobs overseas. We've killed the unions, killed the steel, auto and 90% of manufacturing industry in the US. The jobs we have created are service junk low paying temporary work but who cares as long as our portfolios are divirsified and we control the energy direction of the country.
28 years of scare tactics and corporate america continues to screw america and americans continue to vote for them.
We deserve what we get.
Eddie
As the wacko doctor suggests, lets do more trickle down Reagonomics which has sooooo succesfully worked where lower taxes and you give more money to American companies and they, because they are so patriotic and love America so much, will make more money and reinvest it in the good old USA and not in their executives pockets, but rather will create great and wonderful high paying jobs right here in the USA and not in evil old India and China where labor is cheap and it would be so unamerican. Yeah this has worked so well for 8 years under the Lord God Ronald Reagan and 4 yeaars under His Lord Prince George H.W. Bush and 8 years of the evil but acceptable jokster Billy Clinton who gave us NAFTA but then the return of the Son of God for 8 years, George W. Bush.
Now we want 4 years of lower taxes for corporations to send more jobs overseas. We've killed the unions, killed the steel, auto and 90% of manufacturing industry in the US. The jobs we have created are service junk low paying temporary work but who cares as long as our portfolios are divirsified and we control the energy direction of the country.
28 years of scare tactics and corporate america continues to screw america and americans continue to vote for them.
We deserve what we get.
Eddie
Eddie channeling H. L. Mencken! (not in the legal sense)
Eddie channeling H. L. Mencken! (not in the legal sense)
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
-- H. L. Mencken
Eddie channeling H. L. Mencken! (not in the legal sense)
Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
-- H. L. Mencken
Yup we can see why Old John Was so hard on his own party at Reb convention. And was all over Bush as a Zero. No love there.
Who said bring back Clinton? Smart person Yes we could use some of his tax plan that help middle class. And still rich got richer. And over 22 million jobs. Ya bring him back. Some one that had a surplus in stead of more debt. Cant blame Mc Cain for running from his party as fast as possiable.
Who said bring back Clinton? Smart person Yes we could use some of his tax plan that help middle class. And still rich got richer. And over 22 million jobs. Ya bring him back. Some one that had a surplus in stead of more debt. Cant blame Mc Cain for running from his party as fast as possiable.
It isnt like the Democratic controlled Congress has done a damn thing about anything. Their ratings are even lower than Bush's. I havent seen Barrack hanging out much with Pelosi and Reid or praising them either.
Plenty of blame to go around.
Plenty of blame to go around.
take a guess what age bracket has been hit the hardest--Hint go back to prediction on youth and what effects of minimum wage increase would be.
Question 2 which president had lowest compsite of unemployment in their 1st terms clinton or GW?--and GW incuded 9-11.
In fact Clinton ave 5.96--so why was he your savior and GW a bum?
Considering the sub prime fiasco and price of oil--6.1 is fine with me.
--and speaking of sub prime fiasco--who do you think repealed the Glass-Steagall act that allowed this to happen?
Hint He was in oral office when he signed it.
When Bill Clinton gave that pen to Sanford Weill, it symbolized the ending of the twentieth century Democratic Party that had created the New Deal. Although the 1999 law did not repeal all of the banking Act of 1933, retaining the FDIC, it did once again allow banks to enter the securities business, becoming what some term ?whole banks.?
--any other questions
--any other questions
sure, are you blaming Clinton for the subprime market?
I wonder if this is why they are not doing anything. this type of stuff is a bitch but i guess you don't hear about stuff like this with our corporate media.
Published: 12/18/07 08:15 PM EST
New Report Shows How Conservative Minority Rules by Filibuster, Preventing Up or Down Vote on a Record Number of Bills
WASHINGTON, Dec. 18 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The Republican Senate minority today filibustered an omnibus budget bill, setting a modern-day record for blocking the most legislation during a congressional session. A new report released today by the Campaign for America's Future details the 62 times conservatives have used the filibuster to block legislation (or force modification of bills) in the first session of the 110th Congress. In just the first year of this two-year Congress, their use of the filibuster in the Senate topped the previous record, reached during the entire 107th Congress.
The new report outlines every bill filibustered, vetoed or threatened to be vetoed by President Bush. Conservatives filibustered bills to end the occupation of Iraq, provide soldiers in Iraq rest time equal to their deployments, support renewable energy and grant residents of the District of Columbia representation in Congress. Today's record-breaker involved a $516 billion budget package passed by the House to fund the federal government in 2008. The conservative minority demanded $20 billion additional funding for the war and opposed House language to bring troops home, and threatened a filibuster to prevent the bill from getting an up or down vote.
"In just one session, a minority in Congress has prevented a mind-blowing 62 pieces of legislation from going to the floor for an up or down vote," said Campaign for America's Future co-director Roger Hickey. "Our report shows how over and over again, the uncompromising minority has thwarted the will of majorities in Congress and of the American people, holding the Senate floor hostage to a radical right-wing agenda."
Sixty votes are needed to invoke cloture and end a filibuster. The 62nd cloture vote of the session is more than any single session of Congress since at least 1973, the earliest year cloture votes are available online from the Senate. Republicans are on pace to force 134 cloture votes to cut off a filibuster, according to the Campaign for America's Future analysis, more than double the historical average of the last 35 years.
Even pieces of legislation that have made it past the Senate filibuster blockade have been obstructed by President Bush. Last week the President vetoed for the second time a popular bill that would expand health coverage for 10 million American children. According to the Campaign for America's Future report, Bush has threatened to veto 84 bills and has vetoed six as of December 17. In contrast, during the period when the Republicans were in the congressional majority, Bush went the longest time without vetoing a bill since President Arthur Garfield.
Eric Lotke, Campaign for America's Future research director and lead author of the new report, calls the obstruction a "deliberate strategy." He observes that the congressional Republicans block legislation, then blame the Democrats for getting nothing done. "It's like mugging the postman and then complaining that the mail isn't delivered on time."
The story of this historic level of obstruction has recently been covered by The New York Times, but has yet to be fully told in the media. The new Campaign for America's Future report shows how major media outlets describe the 60-vote threshold as an ordinary procedure, neglecting that this tactic is an unprecedented assertion of minority control. ____________
I blame the banks greed Bobby for most part
Was using example as to point out lot of blame to go around on all for those who want to point fingers--GOP congress back then equally responsible for bill passing.
Dems can blame this admin for past 2 years turmoil--Rebs can blame Dems as thats when they got control of congress--but fact of matter--not sure either could have done much to avert it.
Almost forgot my buddy DJV
Surely your still not believing O's/Dems speil about incomes going down $2,000--that's been exposed shortly after it came out--but might not have made it to the liberal outlets--
so lets set that "sleight of hand" to rest.
from Factcheck.org
He Didn't Mean It
Obama also pulled some sleight of hand when he stated that "the average American family" saw its income "go down $2,000" under George Bush. That's not correct. Census figures show average family income went down $348.
As it turns out, when Obama said "average family income," he didn't mean "average," and he didn't mean "family," either. An Obama aide says he was really referring to median income ? which is the midpoint ? and not to the average. And Obama was talking only about "working families," not retired couples.
For all families, median family income actually inched up under Bush by $272.
bad news for america_=good news for the left...this is why you guys manage to lose elections that by all rights you should win...
keep attacking palin unfairly...keep trying to turn a successful outcome in iraq into a bad one...keep blocking every rational energy option...
keep grinning about anything negative....
no wonder you guys keep losing...you revel in it...revel in negativity...
thats the american spirit...
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GW it was not Dem's at your Reb convention blasting his own party. His name was Mc Cain. Now he's asking for our vote. Is he on level or just full of B S. I never saw someone run from his party as he has. He sounds more like that turn coat Liberman.
the fact that you are serious is what is scary. Party of negativity? What a joke. The only thing the modern republicans stand for is they don't like those anti-American commie liberals. All you fvcking idiots do is go around calling people un-American....oh yeah, and DOUBLING government spending and running up the largest deficit in the HISTORY OF THE PLANET. And you have the gall to call someone un-American.
