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Totalitarian

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Can some serious posters please chime in on this subject so I can understand the reason that people rank their plays in such ranging "units".

The first thing I don't understand is why someone's lowest play of the year is 10 units. Isn't the definition of a "unit" supposed to encompass how much you bet on average per game. So many guys have their lowest play at 5-10 (or more) units...It makes no legitimate sense except for the fact that he/she is trying to look almost "tout-ish" and advertise that they are up a HUGE amount of units. This community is the only one on the internet that I find should be above that sort of self-promotion.

Secondly...even more crazy is the range of units you will see people betting. How can someone make one play for 1x and another for 10x. In my opinion, unless you feel a 10x unit game has 10 times the chance of winning...which statistically I would argue against 99.9999% of the time, what is the point? If you really believe that, shouldn't you be eliminating any game in the 1x area and tightening up your strategy?

I find that people are finding themselves breaking about .500 or less in their plays (which is what will happen to 95% of gamblers), and to try to play catch up/add some color to their record, they are going for these larger plays to make up for the losses. In reality, they should be decreasing their bet size when they are cold, and increasing it when they are showing great results (some may argue that they should try to stay very balanced throughout).

If you are serious about betting, you should have a plan, as many who have been doing this for a long time or for a substantial source of income know that MONEY MANAGEMENT is the key to success.

You start with $X bankroll, you wager 1-3% of it/game, and you slowly increase/decrease your bet size with the total bankroll available. That is the most vanilla of ideas.

Maybe there are a lot of people in here who are just having fun, not wagering real money, and are in the boat of wanting to create a crowd and get hits to their posts with these outrageous unit plays...but I think we should all start to think more about making $ and not worrying so much about looking like we have an unlimited bankroll and posting records that are like 5-3 +29 units.

I for one will take a very business-like approcah with my plays/posts and I hope some of you can learn from it.

I am not trying to call anyone out...jut think we could make this a VERY VERY prodcutive place if EVERYONE is on the same page and we have a uniform concept. Just think how much easier it would be to track/compare people if there weren't guys making 100 unit GOY's to boost up their record.

Just my $0.02...any input is appreciated.

Good luck to all.

Totalitarian
 

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When you said, "It makes no legitimate sense except for the fact that he/she is trying to look almost "tout-ish" and advertise that they are up a HUGE amount of units," you could have stopped right there. That is exactly the reason you see people betting 100 UNITS!!!!!! on a game. Just to get attention. That's all it is.
 

Hoshtaylor

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Totalitarian...that's why I do not post or keep track of my units...IF I did post my baseball, I wouldn't even have the time to keep track of units (not like anyone in their right mind would want to follow my baseball picks). I only post basketball and the "unit" system is pretty standard as you can just assume the 10% juice. I post a record and my plays...that's it. I know I'm good at picking bets, but like the majority of gamblers, my problem is money management. Again, that's why I do not post any units on my plays...I leave that up to everyone's own discretion.

I guess to sum up what I'm trying to say is that I agree with you and it is basically childish and probably more than half of the people who do it that way are kids who don't even have $100 to their name...or maybe their units are pennies instead of dollars...who knows...lol !

Just wanted to say I agree with you.

GL tonight !!!!
 

Don Wallace

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Totalitarian, great points! Ive been wagering on sports for over 20 years and it is my primary source of income. In all my years of wagering, it behooves me to know how a player differentiates between a 1 unit play and a 5 unit play. How does one intelligently substaniate between the two. The probability of a game winning or losing is a 50/50 proposition. There is no plausible mathematical means for predetermining the relationship of quantities. Almost invariably, 7 out of 10 times Its the game I love that loses and the play Im alittle apprehensive about that covers by 3 TDs. I never understood how players determine those things and to be honest, I dont want to know. The more I talk to sports bettors the dumber I get.
 

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Don...thanks for the comments...hopefully by tomorrow when things are up and runnung in full swing, we can get some other "regulars" to chime in.

Hosh-agree with you that there are a lot of suspect people on here that are betting with monopoly money and are so low on self-esteem that they must get attention from online forums.

MVPicks - I am not asking for advice...just trying to open up a conversation to see how others feel. If you are smart, you will follow my advice and the advice of other serious players in this forum.
 

longshot

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no harsh intentions

no harsh intentions

I understand where you are coming from. A more uniform way of stating picks/units would be in everyone's best interest.
Good luck to you this year.
 

bassmaster007

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well for
1- people wager different amounts, one person may wager 100 the next 10 , the amount doesnt matter its the units one person may wager as a base amount
2-if handicapping a game and one game meets one criteria then one unit two meet your own criteria then two units (thats what i do)
 

dangerously

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Another point of veiw.

What's important is the win percentage, not the units! In a perfect world you would make all your plays equal and any decent handicapper should be able to hit 60 to 65% of their plays. You then set a goal to hit, when your bankroll hits that goal you increase your bets a small %, and so on, and so on.If your bankroll dips because on a losing streak decrease your bets the same % you increased, and so on.

Remember, no one is going to "KILL THE BOOKS" :nono: as is stated time after time , but if your patient and disaplined you should be able to suplement your income, how much depends on your bankroll.
 

homedog

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any decent handicapper should be able to hit 60 to 65% of their plays.

:mj07:

And then you say that no one is going to kill the books?

You really need to get a hold of yourself. This is not toutville.
 

Totalitarian

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Anyone who can consistently hit 57+% of their games will have a good future in gambling if they understand risk/money mgmt.
 

BestPlay2day

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I agree Totalitarian! Almost all of my bets have been for 1 unit, and will only bet up to 2 units if I really love a game. What gets me is when people have game of the year, how do you know if there won't be better games in the future? I post my bets and give an explaination why I like the bet, but don't get many hits even though my record overall is good because I don't use 10 units bets or game of the month in my posts. I just like to post my plays and hopefully help someone win some money, that's what is important. My view on betting is pick your spots and slowly build your bankroll. This is a marathon, not a sprint which has been said many times, but people often forget. Great thread!:toast:
 

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I rate my plays "single", "double", or "triple"......pretty self explanitory. Whatever your normal wager is what you go by to determine the bet.....everyone has different wager amounts, so it'll be different. I have never used GOY or Game of the Millenium ratings for my plays.....that's for the touts to use. I see that being useless....
 
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