WE ARE HONORING A TRAITOR ?

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an email I received.....

WE ARE HONORING A TRAITOR ?

KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA

This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear.



Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century."




Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot.



The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.


In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton."



Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received.


He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away.

During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk.




In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton.



>From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action".

His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.


His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a 'peace delegation" visit.

They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived.


Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand.




When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?"




Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.



She took them all without missing a beat.


At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers.




Three men died from the subsequent beatings.




Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years.

I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi.


My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.

At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs.)




We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda.


I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient."




Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released.


I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV.




She did not answer me.



This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women."

Lest we forget..." 100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.


There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.

Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can.




It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.

RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF
716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of Maintenance
DSN: 875-6431
COMM: 883-6343
 

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Small world eh I/O. here is an E-mail I received...

Small world eh I/O. here is an E-mail I received...

Just passing on what was forwarded to me

Subject: Kerry.....

This is more than an eye opener..........please pass to your whole list

Unlike McCain, Bush, and Gore ,,,, Kerry has adamantly refused to
authorize the release of his military records. Most think it's because of his
phony battle medals. I think the real reason is below. He was not
granted an Honorable Discharge until March 2001, almost 30 years after his
ostensible service term had ended! This is very much out of the ordinary,
and highly suspect.

There are 5 classes of Discharge:
Honorable, General, Other Than Honorable, Bad Conduct, and
Dishonorable.
My guess is that he was Discharged in the '70s, but not Honorably.
He appealed this sometime while Clinton was doing trouser-tricks in the
Oval Office. Political pressure was applied, and the Honorable Discharge
was then granted.

His file is probably rife with reports of this, submissions and
hearings on the appeal, reports of his "giving aid and comfort" to the enemy,
along with protests that were filed with respect to his alleged valor
under fire.
This will blow up in his face before October 15th.

On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry signed a 6 year enlistment contract with
the Navy (plus a 6-month extension during wartime).

On 18 Feb. 1966 John Kerry also signed an Officer Candidate contract
for 6 years - as 5 years of ACTIVE duty & ACTIVE Naval Reserves, and 1 year
of inactive standby reserves (See items #4 & $5).

Because John Kerry was discharged from TOTAL ACTIVE DUTY of only 3
years and 18 days on 3 Jan. 1970, he was then required to attend 48 drills
per year, and not more than 17 days active duty for training. Kerry was
also subject to the Uniform Code of Military Justice. Additionally,
Kerry, as a commissioned officer, was prohibited from making adverse
statements against his chain of command or statements against his country,
especially during time of war.

It is also interesting to note that Kerry did not obtain an honorable
discharge until Mar. 12, 2001, even though his service obligation
should have ended July 1, 1972.

Lt. John Kerry's letter of 21 Nov. 1969 asking for an early release
from active US Navy duty falsely states, "My current regular period of
obligated service would be completed in December of this year."

On Jan. 3, 1970 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to the Naval Reserve
Manpower Center in Bainridge, Maryland.

Where are Kerry's Performance Records for 2 years of obligated Ready
Reserve, the 48 drills per year required and his 17 days of active
duty per year training while Kerry was in the Ready Reserves? Have these
records been released?

Has anyone ever talked to Kerry's Commanding Officer at the Naval
Reserve ! Center where Kerry drilled?

On 1 July 1972 Lt. John Kerry was transferred to Standby Reserve - Inactive.

On 16 February 1978 Lt. John Kerry was discharged from US Naval
Reserve.

Below are some of the crimes Lt. Kerry USNR committed as a Ready
Reservist, while he was acting as a leader of Vietnam Veterans Against the War:

1. Lt. Kerry attended many rallies where the Vietcong flag was
displayed while our flag was desecrated, defiled, and mocked, thereby giving aid
and comfort to the enemy.

2. Lt. Kerry was involved in a meeting that voted on assassinating
members of the US Senate.

3. Lt. Kerry lied under oath against fellow soldiers before the US
Senate about crimes committed in Vietnam.

4. Lt. Kerry professed to being a war criminal on national
television, and condemned the military and the USA.

5. Lt. Kerry met with NVA and Vietcong communist leaders in Paris, in
d! irect violation of the UCMJ and the U.S. Constitution.

Lt. Kerry by his own words & actions violated the UCMJ and the US Code
while serving as a Navy officer. Lt. Kerry stands in violation of
Article 3, Section 3 of the US Constitution. Lt. Kerry's 1970
meeting with NVA Communists in Paris is in direct violation of the UCMJ's
Article 104 part 904, and US Code 18 U. S. C. 953. That meeting, and
Kerry's subsequent support of the communists while leading mass protests
against our military in the year that followed, also place him in direct
violation of our Constitution's Article 3, Section 3, which defines treason as
"giving aid and comfort" to the enemy in time of warfare.

The Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3, states, "No
person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of
President and Vice-president, having previously taken an oath! to support the
Constitution of the United States, [who has] engaged in insurrection
or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies
thereof."

A. L. "Steve" Nash, MAC Ret, UDT/SEAL SEAL Authentication Team
Director AuthentiSEAL Phone 707 438 0120
"The only service where all investigators are US Navy SEALs"
 

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CHARLESMANSON said:
Kosar you just ignored every good point that Chanman made. Why don't you comment on them....numbers 1-6?

Chanman didn't make any points, he posted a chain email. Watch, I have one also. Feel free to comment on any of 'my' points in it.


Subject: THINGS YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE TO BE A REPUBLICAN TODAY: Date:
>Mon, 13
>Sep 2004 10:12:29 +1000
>
> >Subject: Interesting
> >
> >THINGS YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE TO BE A REPUBLICAN TODAY:
> >
> >Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush's
> >daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him
> >and a bad
>guy
> >when Bush needed a "we can't find Bin Laden" diversion.
> >
> >Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade
> >with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.
> >
> >A woman can't be trusted with decisions about her own body, but
> >multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind
>without
> >regulation.
> >
> >Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary
>Clinton.
> >
> >The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in
>speeches
> >while slashing veterans' benefits and combat pay.
> >
> >If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won't have sex.
> >
> >Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing
> >health
>care
> >to all Americans is socialism.
> >
> >HMOs and insurance companies have the best interests of the public at
>heart.
> >
> >Global warming and tobacco's link to cancer are junk science, but
> >creationism should be taught in schools.
> >
> >A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable
> >offense.
> A
> >president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is
>solid
> >defense policy.
> >
> >Government should limit itself to the powers named in the
> >Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the
> >Internet.
> >
> >The public has a right to know about Hillary's cattle trades, but
> >George Bush's cocaine conviction is none of our business.
> >
> >Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you're a
> >conservative radio host. Then it's an illness, and you need our
> >prayers
>for
> >your recovery.
> >
> >You support states' rights, which means Attorney General John
> >Ashcroft
>can
> >tell states what local voter initiatives they have the right to
> >adopt.
> >
> >What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but
>what
> >Bush did in the '80s is irrelevant.
> >
> >If you don't send it to at least 10 other people, we're likely to be
>stuck
> >with Bush for four more years.
> >
> >FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS VOTE REPUBLICAN
> >
 

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Kdogg21 said:
operator, you working tonight??

Yup

Then out to her trailer near Rockford during the day, as soon as I figure out my college plays. You two are more than invited if you're off. Bring the little KDoggs if you wish. I'm back Sun am for NFL foots.



Sorry all
Back to normal programming :)
 

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IntenseOperator said:
Yup

Then out to her trailer near Rockford during the day, as soon as I figure out my college plays. You two are more than invited if you're off. Bring the little KDoggs if you wish. I'm back Sun am for NFL foots.



Sorry all
Back to normal programming :)

working this weekend as well, i think its my last weekend which is nice. i'll talk to ya.
 

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CHARLESMANSON said:
KOSAR cutting and pasting is all good but you still never commented on Chanmans points 1-6. Don't be a wuss.

Ground control to Major Tom: Chanman cut and pasted an email just like I did. What would you have me comment on? Some totally unsubstantiated points from a detective to says 'I guess' and 'probably'?

Hey, please comment on *my* questions, 1-6:

1. When did Dubya stop using cocaine, if ever?
2. What is the over/under on total DUI's for Cheney and Bush?
3. Did Laura Bush go to confession after she mowed down that pedestrian?
4. What is the total days spent in the active military of Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz and Perle?
5. Which twin would you prefer to schtupp, if given a choice?
6. Will Osama be caught in late October?

Thanks.
 

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DAMN KOSAR I DIDNT REALIZE HOW BRIGHT YOU ARE. SERIOUSLY.

ALL YOUR POINTS ARE LEGIT. BUT REPUBLICANS WONT ADDRESS THEM. DENIAL IS EASIER THAN FACING TRUTHS.

AGAIN VERY WELL PUT. ARE YOU RELATED TO EDDIE HASKELL?

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
 

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I LOVE WR said:
DAMN KOSAR I DIDNT REALIZE HOW BRIGHT YOU ARE. SERIOUSLY.

ALL YOUR POINTS ARE LEGIT. BUT REPUBLICANS WONT ADDRESS THEM. DENIAL IS EASIER THAN FACING TRUTHS.

AGAIN VERY WELL PUT. ARE YOU RELATED TO EDDIE HASKELL?

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.

Coming from a total jackass like yourself, well, I feel kind of dumb now.
 

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I MAY BE A JACKASS BUT HOW DARE U CALL ME A TOTAL JACKASS.

COMING FROM U I FEEL LIKE IM A NICE GUY NOW.

KEEP UP THE GOOD FIGHT KOSAR.

FOCUS BETWEEN THE LEGS KOSAR FOCUS-
 

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I LOVE WR said:
DAMN KOSAR I DIDNT REALIZE HOW BRIGHT YOU ARE. SERIOUSLY.

ALL YOUR POINTS ARE LEGIT. BUT REPUBLICANS WONT ADDRESS THEM. DENIAL IS EASIER THAN FACING TRUTHS.

AGAIN VERY WELL PUT. ARE YOU RELATED TO EDDIE HASKELL?

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
:142lmao: :142lmao: :142lmao:
 

Chanman

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Kosar- I thought it would be..."THINGS YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE TO BE A NEOCON TODAY"...

Careful or you'll wind up like Eddie- being stalked by a deranged Canadian.

Hows about this E-Mail:

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AMERICANS WITH NO ABILITIES ACT PASSES CONGRESS

Democrats Hail Victory May 23, 2005 WASHINGTON, DC (AP) -



Congress approved sweeping legislation introduced by Sen. Ted Kennedy that provides new benefits for many Americans. The Americans With No Abilities Act (AWNAA), signed into law by President John Kerry shortly after its passage, is being hailed as a major victory by Democrats and otheradvocates of the millions of Americans who lack any real skills or ambition.

"Roughly 50 percent of Americans do not possess the competence and
drive necessary to carve out a meaningful role for themselves in
society," said Kerry, a longtime AWNA supporter.

"This is why many of them voted for me and other Democrats in the
2004 election. We can no longer stand by and allow People of
Inability to be ridiculed and passed over. With this legislation,
employers will no longer be able to grant special favors to a small
group of workers, simply because they do a better job, have better
skills, or have some idea of what they are doing," said Kerry.

President Kerry pointed to the success of the US Postal Service,
which has a long-standing policy of providing opportunity without
regard to performance. Approximately 80 percent of postal employees
lack job skills, making this agency the single largest US employer of
Persons of Inability.

Private sector industries with good records of nondiscrimination
against Persons of Inability include retail sales (72%), the airline
industry (68%),and home improvement "warehouse" stores (65%).
President Kerry has also set an example, personally selecting
hundreds of Nonabled people for top government positions, including
many cabinet-level jobs.

Under the Americans With No Abilities Act, more than 25 million
"middle man" positions will be created, with important-sounding
titles but little real responsibility, thus providing an illusory
sense of purpose and performance.

Mandatory non-performance-based raises and promotions will be given,
to guarantee upward mobility for even the most unremarkable
employees. The legislation provides substantial tax breaks to
corporations which maintain a significant level of Persons of
Inability in top positions, and gives a tax credit to small and
medium businesses that agree to hire one clueless worker for every
two talented hires.

Finally, the AWNAA contains tough new measures to make it more
difficult to discriminate against the Nonabled, banning
discriminatory interview questions such as "Do you have any goals for
the future?" or "Do you have any skills or experience which relate to
this job?" and "Are you awake?"

"As a Nonabled person, I can't be expected to keep up with people who
have something going for them," said Mary Lou Gertz, who lost her $28
an hour position as a lug-nut twister at the GM plant in Flint, MI
due to her lack of notable job skills.

"This new law should really help people like me."

With the passage of this bill, Gertz and millions of other untalented
citizens can finally see a light at the end of the tunnel.

Said Kerry, "It is our duty as lawmakers to provide each and every
American citizen, regardless of his or her adequacy, with some sort
of space to take up in this great nation."
 
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A DAY IN THE LIFE OF JOE REPUBLICAN
- anonymous

Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and pours water into the coffeemaker to start the morning. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water quality standards.

With his first swallow of coffee, Joe takes his daily medications, which are safe because at least one stupid commie liberal fought to ensure they are, and that they work as advertised. All but $10 of Joe's medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan thanks to a group of liberal union workers who fought for paid medical insurance.

Now, Joe gets it too.

He prepares his morning breakfast -- bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some pro-feminist liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry.

In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its percentage of the total contents. Some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on (and in) his body.

Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because more than one environmentalist wacko liberal fought for laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking fees and it all came about because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation.

Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with very good pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation thanks to some lazy liberal union members who fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays for these benefits so the employer doesn't have to hassle with the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check. That was the work of stupid liberals who thought he shouldn't lose his home because of a temporary misfortune.

It's noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit, which is federally insured by the FSLIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression.

Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan. Turns out that a band of elitist liberals had decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he were educated and earned more money over his lifetime.

Joe is home from work. He plans to visit his father that evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards. Joe arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house, financed by Farmers' Home Administration since bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big government liberal (FDR) stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.

Joe is happy to see his father, who is now retired and living on Social Security and a union pension. This came about because some wine-drinking, quiche-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.

Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host repeatedly says that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. The radio host forgets to mention that his beloved Republican conservatives fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day.

But Joe thinks the radio host is right: "We don't need those big government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."
 
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