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THUNDER

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will update record after today. one early one- tulsa -6 5%,first half -3 2%-san jose was a top play for last weekend for good reason ark state is perhaps the bottom 3or4 teams in football. this tulsa team is much improved on d and there qb gooch will dominate ark state. ark states o is the worst i have seen thus far this season qb makes poor decisions o-line cant block and there slow ar the skill positions. on d if they can even get to the ball they cannot tackle. tulsa has some skill, speed and i really like this gooch kid he is a competitor-reminds me of van pelt. i see a 34-13 type of game. this line will go up to 9 or 9.5
 

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navy +17.5 2%, mich state -26 2%, navy sure looked good against smu they played the option to perfection and there d looks solid too many points. msu will ram rice, they are bad there defense is real bad. msu is one of my darkhorses. i may put more on this one later. msu wins 51-13.
 

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thunder. i'm simply crushed to see you picking navy. smu is a mediocre team at best that turned the ball over five times without getting a single navy turnover back. total yardage was within 50-60 yards i believe and the mustangs actually had more first downs. amato has called off the dogs in both of nc state's two walkovers, playing around 70 players in both games. wolfpack has talent two deep at all positions for the first time in my recollection - and i was at state before lou holtz, if that tells you anything. imo it's easy to fool a team like smu with the triple option as they just don't have the athletes or the bodies to cope with it. just don't see that happening with nc state. middies can't match up in the trenches and won't be able to put any pressure on rivers, which pretty much assures that he'll pick them apart. i think this line is a product of navy's misleading rout and and the wolfpack's early restraint. before the smu game, navy won one of their previous 21. i don't think that much has changed.


like tulsa btw.
 

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loophole i have never posted on your threads- sorry i have not because they are very insightful, and you know what your doing. true smu had 5 turnovers but unlike the past navy capitolized and with ease. they also with agressive d caused the turnovers.this is there first road game and amoto seems to have a hard time to motivate his teams on the road against subpar teams. also like you said he does not run up the score against weaker teams given the chance.navy has one of there better teams than they have had. i had nc state -13 4-5 points is a 2% for me. i think nc will have aproblem with the option the first half the line opened at 20 but i snoozed and i think it will go to 15.
 

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all good points, thunder. hoping i'm not seeing the game through the eyes of a fan, but i just believe the wolfpack's superior talent level should carry them easily throught this one. etsu ran another variety of the option, and the wolfpack spent the afternoon in their backfield. penetration on defense is the key to controlling the option, and i think the pack wins the matchups in the pit.

here's another point on your side of the equation. navy's d coordinator is now none other than buddy green, nc state's defensive mastermind until last season and the architect of those tough wolfpack defenses under dick sheridan. his familiarity with nc state's personnel has got to be an edge.

should be interesting, but i still thing the wolfpack wins by at least three tds. good luck and as always, thanks for all your great work in the forums.

ps - by all means, drop by my threads and give me your input - god knows i could use the help.
 

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northwestern had a pathrtic d last year the thing that saved them was there o but now that looks terrible too. tcu has better d,better recievers, i mean they are way better in every category. i had this line at 11 but a short week keeps this at a 3%. ecu is a good team just did not show up last week logan has a habit of getting his teams to play very well after a loss.
 
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