West Virginia +5!!!!!!

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Alright guys, havent been posting my plays lately mainly because i have just been betting dogs and theres not much logic or need for writeups. But I am back to hit this WV game upside its head.

Yes Texas just shut down a team similar to WV in NC ST. Kudos to them.

Saying that, I love WV to win this game and giving them +5 just incase it gets close and they lose it would be tough for them to foull all the way out of the cover with their 3 point game.
WV and Tx already played and TX was lucky to get that win on a controversial no call. Normally i dont pick winners but fade losers, in this case I am doing both because I think WV are winners because they have experience and talent that has won me money all year, oh yeah and one thing many very good teams dont have and that is they have heart. And I will explain why texas are losers.

Texas have had trouble facing teams twice this year. When they faced a team the first time and beat them they lost the second time they faced them 2 out of 3 times. And the game they won, TTech was 27 points closer than the first game.
Also Texas has struggled with teams that shoot the 3 ball very well, with the exception of NCst, Texas lost to duke, tenn, and nova. Granted, these are all 1 and 2 seeds in the tourney but they all stretch Texas who are very strong on the inside.

Now, this is why i absolutely love this over at 131.5. WV and Texas have both been averaging mid 70s for the year and when they played each other at beginning of year the total was 151. WV with the better coach and more experienced team will impose their will on Texas, and they know they are not going to out muscle them. They are going to play there game, run and shoot 3s on offense and play the passing lanes for steals and easy layups.
 

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I always love a good write-up. Thanks for putting in the time...

Haven't made a decision on this one yet, but you make a very compelling arguement.

Good luck, my friend.
 

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FYI - Texas BEAT Villanova on Jan. 14th,
58 -55 in Austin.
The first match between W. Va. and Texas was as close as you can get, see no reason why the second won't be the same. Hook'em Horns!!!
 

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Jayhawk_Thor said:
I always love a good write-up. Thanks for putting in the time...

Haven't made a decision on this one yet, but you make a very compelling arguement.

Good luck, my friend.
Thanks Jayhawk, gl with you as well. Dont let allholyone(ez$ LOL) get you down. By the way, did allholyone ever confirm that she is ez$?

And thanks for the correction dog lover, I totally agree with you that this one will be close. Don't know why anyone would lay -5 if they think it is going to be close, especially when the ML isnt half of what other MLs are.
 

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blgstocks said:
Thanks Jayhawk, gl with you as well. Dont let allholyone(ez$ LOL) get you down. By the way, did allholyone ever confirm that she is ez$?

And thanks for the correction dog lover, I totally agree with you that this one will be close. Don't know why anyone would lay -5 if they think it is going to be close, especially when the ML isnt half of what other MLs are.

I think he/she (did he/she ever confirm a gender?) did confirm to being EZ$ in a past life :mj07: .

Allholy doesn't get me down, in fact yesterday we shared a touching moment and made a truce. I couldn't help but immortalize her/him in my signature though... :com:

Anyhow, best of luck on this one man... Be happy you are in California, the weather here sucks.
 

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Thanks for the write-up blgstocks.Both of these teams went under in both of their games so far,four combined wins,all unders.That among other factors has me looking for an over in this game.Your analysis that it will be a high scoring pace matches my preliminary take on this game too.GL
 

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a little surprised you werent all over west virginia in the first two rounds, as it was essentially free money. those blowouts could be seen coming a mile away. all year, we've agreed that west virginia excels against 'similarly athletic' foes who cant exploit their lack of interior game. thus, the first two rounds set up as perfect spots to play ON wvu. now youre jumping on board and playing against a texas team that hammers teams on the glass (+10/game) while wvu is almost the same the other way (-9.7/game). texas is similar to uconn in that they go to the glass hard and can kill you with 2nd chance points and dunks.

nc state plays the exact same style of game that wvu does -- lots of screening, back cuts, three point shooting. texas held a significant edge on the glass on sunday.

i guess what im saying is why werent you all over wvu in the first two rounds when the matchups were in their favor? it seems youre taking the wvu plunge two games too late.
 

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gman2 said:
a little surprised you werent all over west virginia in the first two rounds, as it was essentially free money. those blowouts could be seen coming a mile away. all year, we've agreed that west virginia excels against 'similarly athletic' foes who cant exploit their lack of interior game. thus, the first two rounds set up as perfect spots to play ON wvu. now youre jumping on board and playing against a texas team that hammers teams on the glass (+10/game) while wvu is almost the same the other way (-9.7/game). texas is similar to uconn in that they go to the glass hard and can kill you with 2nd chance points and dunks.

nc state plays the exact same style of game that wvu does -- lots of screening, back cuts, three point shooting. texas held a significant edge on the glass on sunday.

i guess what im saying is why werent you all over wvu in the first two rounds when the matchups were in their favor? it seems youre taking the wvu plunge two games too late.
Like I said I have only been betting all the dogs, but I actually made an exception with WVU and did not bet against them as I thought west virginia would cover easily.
In hindsight i wish i would have not just NOT bet against them but bet with them, but oh well at least I didnt lose money.
I did however lose money on the Texas/NC State over which i thought was easy pickings at 134
all of us over can thank NCst for scoring 5 points in 10 minutes lol
 

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gman2 said:
a little surprised you werent all over west virginia in the first two rounds, as it was essentially free money. those blowouts could be seen coming a mile away. all year, we've agreed that west virginia excels against 'similarly athletic' foes who cant exploit their lack of interior game. thus, the first two rounds set up as perfect spots to play ON wvu. now youre jumping on board and playing against a texas team that hammers teams on the glass (+10/game) while wvu is almost the same the other way (-9.7/game). texas is similar to uconn in that they go to the glass hard and can kill you with 2nd chance points and dunks.

nc state plays the exact same style of game that wvu does -- lots of screening, back cuts, three point shooting. texas held a significant edge on the glass on sunday.

i guess what im saying is why werent you all over wvu in the first two rounds when the matchups were in their favor? it seems youre taking the wvu plunge two games too late.

I call bullshit.

WVU does just fine versus far superior athletic teams. Examples...UCLA, Oklahoma, Georgetown, Texas etc etc etc

Northwestern State was as athletic as any team WVU has played this year. In addition, they went 11 deep and were very physical. So, your story holds no water. Rebounding? Does it take a rocket scientist handicapper to point to the fact that WVU is inferior on the glass versus almost every D1 team they played the past two year. It just doesn't matter...their game is creating turnovers and turning them into points. In addition, WVU does not give up the rock and on most nights shoots the ball well from within and outside the arc.

The bottom line...WVU has a lineup full of seniors and this team is as cerebral as they come. Give me a smart senior laden team that doesn't turn the ball over that will shoot it with anybody every night of the week.

The 5 points will be irrelevant.
 

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wilson:

northwestern state was a team of 10 bayou brothers that had no clue how to play against west virginia's precision offensive system. you could sense that blowout coming a mile away. you think anybody in the southland was as disciplined as west virginia? um, no.

west virginia is no different than butler (your senior laden teams that take care of the ball and live on the perimeter). in fact they are almost the exact same team. they are teams that have to play a near perfect game against an opponent that can pound them inside. sometimes, they do. sometimes they don't. i guess we will see what happens this time around against texas.
 

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gman2 said:
wilson:

northwestern state was a team of 10 bayou brothers that had no clue how to play against west virginia's precision offensive system. you could sense that blowout coming a mile away. you think anybody in the southland was as disciplined as west virginia? um, no.

west virginia is no different than butler (your senior laden teams that take care of the ball and live on the perimeter). in fact they are almost the exact same team. they are teams that have to play a near perfect game against an opponent that can pound them inside. sometimes, they do. sometimes they don't. i guess we will see what happens this time around against texas.



Butler? I give up. Good grief. Butler. Please look at their record versus the present sweet 16. 4-3...those three losses are by a total of 10 points. They must play perfect basketball all the time. Butler?

When they beat Texas...you'll be on here telling us that Butler/WVU played the perfect game. Outrebounded by 21 and out shot by %.....

These kids are flat out good in their own way. They aren't going to jump out of the gym or reverse dunk...but, they'll cause enough disruption in Texas' offense by their talent/scheme/desire. They have been doing it for two years...and it isn't by playing perfect Butler basketball.

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wilson:

please tell me where butler and west virginia are dissimilar.

this should be interesting.

they are nearly mirror images of each other. anyone who understands basketball would see a striking similarity in terms of what they are trying to do both offensively and defensively.

something tells me you haven't seen butler play this year, outside of perhaps the horizon league championship.
 

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While they may be similar in terms of what they're trying to do, that's where the similarities end. Butler played in a weak Horizon Conf. this year and had ZERO quality out of conference wins. WVU played a murderous OOC shcedule and more than held their own against the tough Big East.

There was a string of about 10 straight WVU games this year in which I faded them, think they lost interest to a point b/c they were no longer the hunters but had morphed into the hunted. Now it is post season and they are rejuvenated and are playing teams that aren't so familiar with their defensive style.

Not saying they will win or cover (that will all depend on one thing - both teams 3 pt. shooting %'s) but I don't need to watch the entire Horizon schedule to know that WVU is much different than Butler in terms of physicality and toughness - and much different in the fact that they are still playing after disposing of 2 NCAA opponents while Butler is sitting at home after losing to an FSU team in a game that the Seminoles probably didn't want to be playing in in the little girls' tourney.
 

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i really have to question the overall forum IQ when someone whom i highly respect (laburns) thinks i am trying to say that butler is as good as west virginia. unreal.
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gman2 said:
i really have to question the overall forum IQ when someone whom i highly respect (laburns) thinks i am trying to say that butler is as good as west virginia. unreal.
:sadwave:

Theres tons of forum IQ. Like the people that jump into threads after the game is over to say who they woulda picked :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:
 

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Theres tons of forum IQ. Like the people that jump into threads after the game is over to say who they woulda picked :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

Coming from a jerk-off who posts nothing but losers, and then claims he won 10 "other" bets and is somehow up on the day. :com:
 

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Just like you DEREK!! I mean numbnuts saying you are 17-20!! LOL
IN YOUR DREAMS!!! You ridicule others but you cant see your own faults. You have alot more than most trust me!! Run that mouth yank and criticize others. Go ahead boy fulfill your destiny as a true yankee Your doing a damn good job of it! You are without a doubt the top dumb ass on the net!!
 
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