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I happen to follow Creighton very closely, I'm a sportswriter in CT. and covered their junior forward Terrell Taylor in high school. We still talk often, fabulous kid and player, but with that being said, I think Creighton might get beat up tonight. WK already won at UK and Terrell is just one of two guys that saw any real action last year. Remember Creighton graduated the school's all-time backcourt in Ben Walker and Ryan Sears. Creighton plays well at home, but I just don't think they have the personnel here.
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FROM TODAY'S OMAHA NEWSPAPER:
Western Kentucky has used its first four basketball games to show it has more horses in its stable than just center Chris Marcus.
?Western Kentucky Coach Dennis Felton said that the Hilltoppers are a lot more effective when center Chris Marcus, shooting against Evansville last week, is "scoring 12 to 15 points and we're scoring 100."
Marcus, the projected NBA draft lottery pick, has been steady so far despite playing on a sore ankle. But the Hilltoppers have received consistent contributions from up to 10 players during their 4-0 start.
"We've wanted it to be that way all along," Western Kentucky Coach Dennis Felton said Monday. "We've been able to be unselfish in the way we share points and the way we share playing time.
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"The media and others have been very slow to pick up on the reality that we're not a one-man team. We're at our best when he's scoring 12 to 15 points and we're scoring 100."
That's how it's been happening as WKU heads into an 8:05 game tonight against Creighton at the Civic Auditorium.
The Hilltoppers, ranked 17th and 18th nationally, blistered Murray State 101-77 Saturday with Marcus getting 11 points and six rebounds. They routed Evansville 90-64 in their previous outing with Marcus contributing eight points and nine rebounds.
"I think everybody appreciates that they are a deep, talented team with a lot of guys who can score," Creighton Coach Dana Altman said. "But he (Marcus) is still definitely someone who gets your attention, as much on the defensive end as he does on the offensive end."
With the 7-foot-1, 285-pound Marcus healthy, Altman said Western Kentucky is "potentially a final 16-type team, maybe a final eight-type team." The Hilltoppers will start two seniors and three juniors tonight, and half of their main reserves are upperclassmen.
Felton, 38, is in his fourth year as WKU head coach. A year ago, the Hilltoppers finished 24-7 and won the Sun Belt Conference.
"This is the first year where you could really say we're a veteran team," Felton said. "Every year I've been here, we've just kind of built on what we've done the previous year. It's been a process. We don't look at this as all of a sudden we're clicking."
Marcus is Western Kentucky's leading scorer at 12.8 points a game, but seven teammates are averaging 6.8 or better. In WKU's backcourt, Derek Robinson is averaging 12.0 points and Raynardo Curry is at 11.3.
While Creighton knows plenty about Western Kentucky, the Hilltoppers know little about the Bluejays. Felton said WKU didn't get tape of CU's only game, a 72-51 win over North Carolina A&T last week.
Altman doesn't feel too sorry for the Hilltoppers, who opened their season with a 64-52 upset of then-No.3 Kentucky. WKU is the first rated team to come to the Civic Auditorium since Tulsa midway through the 1999-2000 season.
"I'm not sure our team is ready to compete at this level," Altman said. "So many of our new guys have not been in this type of ballgame before."
CU juniors Kyle Korver and Terrell Taylor were the only current Bluejays to play the 75-67 loss to Tulsa.
"This will be the biggest game I've ever played in, as well as for a couple other teammates," junior-college transfer Larry House said. "I think it'll be pretty exciting."
CU juniors Kyle Korver and Terrell Taylor were the only current Bluejays to play the 75-67 loss to Tulsa.
"This will be the biggest game I've ever played in, as well as for a couple other teammates," junior-college transfer Larry House said. "I think it'll be pretty exciting."
 

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Good right up. I've also been looking at this game. I think the line makers may still be a little biased from last year's performance and is still showing Creighton the same respect.

The team their facing in W. Kentucky has looked really good so far this year with quality wins over Geo Washington and Kentucky. Wow Kentucky! The more I look at this game the more of bank roll I wanna lay on it....

I think W. Kentucky wins by 11.

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I am biting the WKy as well. Just a small amount. Looks good on the paper. A bit disturbing that everybody and their mothers are on WK. Would love to see couple on the opposite side.
Agger, There is a lot of info about WK but not so much written on the Creighton. They haven't had many games. If you have time, can you tell us more about them. Would like to upgrade it to a bigger wager if I can find more info on the Creighton.

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Oct. 30, 2001

ST. LOUIS, Mo. - One season after being selected as the preseason favorite and finishing as the Missouri Valley Conference's regular-season champions, the Creighton men's basketball team has been tabbed for a second place conference finish in 2001-02 by the MVC's sports information directors, beatwriters and radio play-by-play broadcasters. Junior Kyle Korver represents the Jays on the MVC Preseason All-Conference Team.

The Bluejays, who finished 24-8 last year and made their third-consecutive trip to the NCAA tournament, received one first place vote and ten second place votes to total 232 points. Illinois State, with 26 first place votes, is the preseason MVC favorite, totaling 293 points. Indiana State (224), Southern Illinois (212) and Southwest Missouri State (184) each received one first place vote and were chosen to finish third, fourth and fifth, respectively. Bradley was sixth with 155 points, followed by Evansville (122), Drake (117), Wichita State (70) and Northern Iowa (41).

Junior Kyle Korver, a second-team all-MVC selection last season, is the only forward to be named to the preseason all-conference squad. Last season Korver became just the second player in Valley history to connect for 100-or-more three-pointers in a season, while leading the Bluejays with 14.6 points per game.
 

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Here are the arguments against Creighton tonight.
1. This is only their second game while WK has already played four times, including Kentucky.
2. These two guards that graduated were everything to them. Two 3-year starters, they were the heart and soul of the team. I was at their NCAA game vs Iowa in Long Island. These guys took every shot. Korver is an ok player. Slow as hell but he can shoot. If he's off, they have no chance. It takes time to replace that kind of firepower and their doing it with freshman and JC transfers.
3. Following Creighton, I've noticed how Dana Altman, the coach, puts so much stress on the league season. I think he'll approach this game as a major challenge and experience builder, while WK is going in there to kick ass.
4. Creighton's tallest guy is a 6-10 sophomore with no game. WK has a seven foot monster who should foul out the whole front line.
5. My only concern would be Korver and Terrell shooting the three. They can both get hot, especially at home.
Still, WK just has so much more experience and talent right now it's hard to pass up.
 

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Here are the arguments against Creighton tonight.
1. This is only their second game while WK has already played four times, including Kentucky.
2. These two guards that graduated were everything to them. Two 3-year starters, they were the heart and soul of the team. I was at their NCAA game vs Iowa in Long Island. These guys took every shot. Korver is an ok player. Slow as hell but he can shoot. If he's off, they have no chance. It takes time to replace that kind of firepower and their doing it with freshman and JC transfers.
3. Following Creighton, I've noticed how Dana Altman, the coach, puts so much stress on the league season. I think he'll approach this game as a major challenge and experience builder, while WK is going in there to kick ass.
4. Creighton's tallest guy is a 6-10 sophomore with no game. WK has a seven foot monster who should foul out the whole front line.
5. My only concern would be Korver and Terrell shooting the three. They can both get hot, especially at home.
Still, WK just has so much more experience and talent right now it's hard to pass up.
 

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I don't even know where Creighton is - and this is probably the kiss of death for the Toppers, but I'm laying money on my alma mater tonight. WKU is also my wife's alma mater, as well as both of my kids. We all have one leg shorter than the other from walking around the hill. Basically, WKU is playing balls out right now, they have destroyed everyone they have played, including the much touted UK Wildcats on THEIR home floor. I've been to Rupp Arena and there is no more hostile crowd in the country, so I don't think the crowd at Creighton will bother the Toppers.

Where in the hell is my red towel?

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Creighton is in Omaha, Nebraska, small Jesuit school. They get about 8,000 people and they have a very loyal following. But no, it's not Kentucky.
 
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WKU looks like a no brainer...what scares me the line has not moved at all? Every time this happens...trap. But, geez...I guess I'll crawl righ in this trap...don't understand this line at all. Sears and Walker gone is enough to sway me...Creighton does have good forwards....but, geez.
 

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I am on Creighton tonight to try and steal some of WKU's thunder. Creighton likes to be the big-time small school--this and the funny line are the only reasons I am going with them.

I've been to Rupp Arena and there is no more hostile crowd in the country

That is a joke of a statement. The entire lower part of Rupp is filled with people and their oxygen masks. Since the university does not own the arena, the students get no respect. I spent many a games stopping nosebleeds. There is one section from the floor to the ceiling that is given to the students. Compare this to the Cameron Crazies???? No way. Don't get me wrong, I love Kentucky, but there is no way that Rupp can be called hostile. It is intimidating because it is Rupp, but not hostile.

I definitely think the Toppers have the ability to hand it to Creighton tonight, but I am going with my gut and thinking that the windows are looking for Big Red action.

Good luck to all.

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That was funny!! LOL Nose bleeds and oxygen..classics!

I used to live about 60 miles north of Lexington..I have been to Rupp..your assessment is right on the money.
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By the way...you play Creighton..you've got huge cajones!
 

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I agree very much with the fact that Marcus's supporting cast does not get the credit they deserve. Those guys can play!

Looking forward to seeing them here in Akron next weds. if the line is under 20 its like stealing.
 

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IMO, there was no right or wrong side to this game. It was a hard fought battle between two teams. One being more talented, the other having more motivation.

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Well, looks like I hung the plow on the Toppers last night. Dawgball, I guess you're right about Rupp, I shouldn't have said hostile. It CAN get loud but the lower level folks usually can't find the energy to clap, much less shout. I wonder what kind of defense Creighton used to slow down WKU in the second half, they were up by 12 or so at the half. Anyone know what happened?
 

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Tough loss last night . . . I guess I jumped on W. Kentucky's bandwagon too late. Props to Creighton played a great game in the second half and 2 OT's and played me out of some money.
 
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