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Why is Western Union blocking my deposits? I always use them and now I'm nervous. My book said use MG but won't elaborate. How do most people get paid?
 

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Why is Western Union blocking my deposits? I always use them and now I'm nervous. My book said use MG but won't elaborate. How do most people get paid?

they are blocking alot of people they are pretty much done being useful. Bitcoins worth a look.
 

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Yea I have heard up to half of the transactions are being declined. MG is a better option if you can. tried to receive a Wu a couple weeks ago and it got returned to sender.
 

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Hey

Hey

I just had a huge issue with western union... There are options to getting paid. Some books are doing bank wires, moneypak cards, and I have been getting paid via Moneygram.

Western Union is making a stand because they are getting TONS of regulatory pressure from the US. Its just what we have to deal with.

Jason
 

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Game over for Sports books :scared

WU International has been blocking transactions. It's not the same situation for every customer but we would strongly suggest you to use MG.
 

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Game over for Sports books :scared

WU International has been blocking transactions. It's not the same situation for every customer but we would strongly suggest you to use MG.

its not game over for the sportsbooks because of western union.
 

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MG is getting flagged too. :scared Heritage wont take US players. I give it less than a year :violin:

Who the fuck are you to give it anything? :facepalm:

No disrespect but you are simply wrong. Period.
 

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Who the fuck are you to give it anything? :facepalm:

No disrespect but you are simply wrong. Period.

I hope that u am but wu & Mg make up around 80% of deposits . The revenue will dry up & they will have to shut down . IMHO
 
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I hope that u am but wu & Mg make up around 80% of deposits . The revenue will dry up & they will have to shut down . IMHO

Really, that's no biggie, there are other ways. Like I said before, I've been in this for over 16 years and never use either. A handful of times max, for small payouts.
 

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WU and MG have always been for small time moves - I've been in this game for almost 20 years and essentially never used them. There are plenty of other options and with Bitcoin getting in the mix, the options will expand even more. I actually think things are looking up rather than down.
 

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WU and MG have always been for small time moves - I've been in this game for almost 20 years and essentially never used them. There are plenty of other options and with Bitcoin getting in the mix, the options will expand even more. I actually think things are looking up rather than down.


Agree with you sir.

Heck even Paypal is looking at ways of getting into the market.
 

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Agree with you sir.

Heck even Paypal is looking at ways of getting into the market.

hank says that would be very good....i remember using paypal years ago...helpful when on the road after a gig....

got denied a western union a few wks ago....still got my money other ways

hank
 

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Agree with you sir.

Heck even Paypal is looking at ways of getting into the market.

eBay and Paypal are splitting into 2 separate public companies but I doubt they get back into transferring money for gambling since it's illegal.
 

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without exposing too much on the internet, and i know i am being overly cautious here, I just deposited today with a major book on here and they gave me the easiest way to deposit yet and you don't have to even put your name out there at all. I have been playing offshore for well over 30 years. Just go the books directly on their chat and ask for options
 

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without exposing too much on the internet, and i know i am being overly cautious here, I just deposited today with a major book on here and they gave me the easiest way to deposit yet and you don't have to even put your name out there at all. I have been playing offshore for well over 30 years. Just go the books directly on their chat and ask for options

Well fill us in sir with the specific details or email them to me. Administrator can provide you with my email address. Thanks!
 

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Hey Shawn, I was asking for his specific deposit and withdrawal methods. It's not possible to make a deposit without using a name. Can u read that? :)
 

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UPDATE

Western Union Crackdown is Affecting Online Gambling Payments

Posted by Jim Quinn on 02 Oct 2014 | Tagged as: OffShore Insiders

We have heard from several players during the first few weeks of football season regarding problems with sending money to online sportsbooks using Western Union. The problems mainly revolve around money being sent to a correct name and location with the cocrect MCTN but the funds are blocked and in some cases have been held by Western Union.

One member who is a long time player online called in frantically with a problem that had never happened to him in 10+ years of playing offshore. His Western Union deposit had been blocked and the name he was given was being investigated for fraud. This player was able to have his funds immediately returned. However, another long time player had the same issue and his funds were held ?pending Western Union? investigation. One player was even being told that he had to fill out three different forms to even apply to get his money refunded after Western Union deemed the name he was sending to had been ?involved with fraudulent transactions?, which I am pretty sure is the standard code words that the home office has instructed field reps to use when a name is identified as receiving money for an offshore gambling house. In addition, it feels like Western Union is going a bit above and beyond what they are required to do while erring on the side of caution, thus pretty much blocking anything that has a hint of gambling and blacklisting the corresponding parties.

We are not a lawyers and there is no specific reference to confiscated funds on the WUnion website, but from what we have been able to find out, Western Union cannot legally keep players? money. From what we understand they certainly don?t work too hard to refund it, but at some point they have to. In searching the OSGA database, every person who has had funds held by Western Union has eventually been paid back by the company.

As the industry?s leading online gambling watchdog group, we occasionally get these types of issues here and do our best to offer advice. But the fact that we had the exact same complaint from nearly a dozen players prompted us to dig a little deeper with the sources that we have offshore.

We found that Western Union is eyeing transactions to ?developing nations? in excess of a couple of hundred dollars. Our sources confirmed that Western Union has been the focus of a crack down this year, apparently due to a directive from the head office. It seems that Costa Rica and Nicaragua are two countries that are especially affected. One operator told us that the local Western Union offices have had auditors suddenly stop in and check transactions and associated names that have multiple transactions. Another operator told us that local Western Union outlets are ?under constant WU Corp oversight audit? right now.

This is not too shocking, as part of the terms and condition on the Western Union website include ? . . . your use of Services does not violate any law, including, without limit, laws relating to money laundering, illegal gambling activities, support for terrorist activities or fraud?. And of course, in the U.S. the sending of money by a financial institution, such as Western Union, is in violation of the 2006 UIGEA law.

The bad news is that in the first few weeks of football is when the processors and the systems that are in place get especially stressed. We have heard that some of the sportsbooks that rely heavily on Western Union have lost up from 50 to 60% of their capacity and their processors are under constant audits. But as the season winds along, it should get easier for players to send money and harder for auditors identify receivers simply due to volume.

So what does this mean for the consumer that chooses to play and send money offshore?

It does not mean that players need to abandon Western Union. But it does mean that players should only send money in their name, should send the money as quickly as possible once the recipient name is received and should keep transactions in lower dollar amounts (less than $700). If players still choose to send money person-to-person, as an alternative, they can use MoneyGram. Several of the outlets that have run into multiple problems with Western Union are urging players to do just that. Again the problem here is unfortunately the options to US customers ?aren?t very broad?, as we were told.

If more information becomes available, we will update this story.
 

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ok let me help with a little more explanation. Some of the books are using more of the newer prepaid/reload credit/debit cards. In my case I went to the nearest walmart or national pharmacy, paid the card with cash, went home and called in the number to the book and it was over. When I say I did not use a name, I mean when you buy the card nobody is asking who you are, there is no record on their sale with a name. This not for the real big deposits, but in most cases you can do at least 500, which I think would satisfy most people on this site. I assume if you want to deposit more you would just buy more cards. The fee is under 5 dollars and will be reimbursed I'm sure by your book
 
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