what happened to factsman?
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Bashers Ran Him Off
Bashers Ran Him Off
You Can Read His Reasons In The Dumpster. Fletcher Even Said He Was Alright. He Did Pretty Good While He Was Here, Well! Another Good Capper Down The Tube.
Bashers Ran Him Off
You Can Read His Reasons In The Dumpster. Fletcher Even Said He Was Alright. He Did Pretty Good While He Was Here, Well! Another Good Capper Down The Tube.
Cold streak started to come on and bailed before he lost some potential clients. Now if you couldn't figure that out 
. Oh you by the way HI factsman :sadwave: I mean topdawg: .
And heyward if you think it was ahole bashers polluting his thread you should think again and be thankful that there are some people here that watch out for guppies on this board. But hey sometimes you gotta learn on your own. Off to the dumster now. I am sure there will be many more of these post coming soon.
. Oh you by the way HI factsman :sadwave: I mean topdawg: . And heyward if you think it was ahole bashers polluting his thread you should think again and be thankful that there are some people here that watch out for guppies on this board. But hey sometimes you gotta learn on your own. Off to the dumster now. I am sure there will be many more of these post coming soon.
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Nt you could be right Because they guy i delt with was not a serivce and it did strike me as funny when i responed, he did not get back to me like the person, I know, many names are highjacked hell there is now a fletcher 1,2 and 3 all saying they are me only 1 is fletcher1 at another site i have not posted at in a year, who knows but i think we will all move on, the one thing that was different was he used we a lot, hell i am a service and loyle poster for those who do not believe in services which is fine and i never use we? I might of had wool pulled over my eyes and that is tough to do, but won't lose any sleep over it.
Take care and good luck
Eric
Take care and good luck
Eric
Fletch, I think I'm right. I have no prob with someone running a respectable service. But I have seen this way too many times when someone is CAPPING THE THREAD TILTLE and so on, its for one reason. Attention to something. The atteniton is when he is winning to set the hook. That is not what this forum was built on.
We have many pay service cappers who come into this site and give away plays for free and not once do they say anything about promoting themselves. I had him pegged for sometime now but was waiting for someone else to chime in before i jumped the gun and DJTRANKS did so and got lambasted for doing so.
Now with that being said, we are all here to not only help each other but too also look out for each other. that is my take. When something doesn't look right then we should speak up. we have that right as members to question someones intentions. Also everyday this forum grows with new people and some may not understand the dark side of handicapping. So as members we should not be afraid to point this out to these people for them to think before they react before they are takin. Not saying all are bad but have been around long enought too know what can happen. People can agree or disagree with me on this subject it does not matter. But I will continue to point this topic out. If not the the forum will be cluttered with people complaining about having $$$$ taken from them and so forth. (EXAMPLE LOWELL). Which in turn not only clutters the board but also hampers the growth of this forum and brings disputes out about this amongst members defending one another.
We all look at this differently on this subject but I think we can all agree it does no good to let someone scam others just to do it. I hope I have opened the eyes of some here, mainly the newbies and to always be cautious of where your money goes. Not only with disrespectfull services but sportsbooks and etc. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink so to say. I caution others to be wise in your decisions. It is your money always remember that and you can do with it what you choose. But choose wisely. There is a knowledge of wealth on this board but noone can help unless you speak up or ask.
P.S. Fletch when I seen you replied I was ready for a good ole fletch novel on this and that ripping me from vegas too indy, you know the ole fletch lol! was actually suprised by your response. Keep up the good work all and lets make some $$$$$$. Thats what its all about.
We have many pay service cappers who come into this site and give away plays for free and not once do they say anything about promoting themselves. I had him pegged for sometime now but was waiting for someone else to chime in before i jumped the gun and DJTRANKS did so and got lambasted for doing so.
Now with that being said, we are all here to not only help each other but too also look out for each other. that is my take. When something doesn't look right then we should speak up. we have that right as members to question someones intentions. Also everyday this forum grows with new people and some may not understand the dark side of handicapping. So as members we should not be afraid to point this out to these people for them to think before they react before they are takin. Not saying all are bad but have been around long enought too know what can happen. People can agree or disagree with me on this subject it does not matter. But I will continue to point this topic out. If not the the forum will be cluttered with people complaining about having $$$$ taken from them and so forth. (EXAMPLE LOWELL). Which in turn not only clutters the board but also hampers the growth of this forum and brings disputes out about this amongst members defending one another.
We all look at this differently on this subject but I think we can all agree it does no good to let someone scam others just to do it. I hope I have opened the eyes of some here, mainly the newbies and to always be cautious of where your money goes. Not only with disrespectfull services but sportsbooks and etc. You can lead a horse to water but you cannot make it drink so to say. I caution others to be wise in your decisions. It is your money always remember that and you can do with it what you choose. But choose wisely. There is a knowledge of wealth on this board but noone can help unless you speak up or ask.
P.S. Fletch when I seen you replied I was ready for a good ole fletch novel on this and that ripping me from vegas too indy, you know the ole fletch lol! was actually suprised by your response. Keep up the good work all and lets make some $$$$$$. Thats what its all about.
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It's another sad story. Stick around long enough, and you will learn the routine. Here's what I've learned:
- Come to MJack's and tell everyone how great the site is, you have been doing this for years, and that you hope you can contribute in some small way.
- Post some plays, and hope you hit winners.
Most play it a little slower, but you could see this guy was going to start touting real fast. Referring to yourself as "we" is a dead giveaway.
- Hit a few more winners, and start getting the forum "excited" about this new found gold mine.
(If a guy is serious about capping the games, and helping the forum, he usually keeps his pie hole shut, instead of yapping about his record, etc, morning, noon, and night.)
- 'Scuse me, while I bump this thread!"
Make sure you thread is always on top if you had a good day. Add anything you can. If no one has responded, talk about a game in progress, or just completed. "This one is looking good early!" Or, "That was a good win for us."
If someone replies to the therad, wait until it falls in the standings and reply to them, thus bumping it back on top! Keep this up as long as someone responds to your thread.
- Tout the big days.
"Went 4-0 yesterday, 10-2 on the week!"
Just like every pamphlet you get in the mail. Sell the good, and burry the bad. This clown was touting his games on Thursday by saying, "Last Thursday we went 4-0!"
- Fudging the numbers and results.
This is a biggy. Every line this guy posted was on a total, and every one was at least a half run better than you could find. The guy must have a ton of outs, and always be on the best number when he posts his plays.......whatever. Then there is the questionable record. I never checked, but several guys stated his record was worse than he said it was.
- The inevitable war between the "ass kissers" and the "bashers". This is what these guys want. If I see four or five guys defending my shit, I will thank them and say "I don't worry about the bashers". Now, I am a real stand up guy to the "kissers". This will be very important when Dooms Day comes around.
- The losing day.
It has to happen. They finally hit the bump in the road. If they are lucky, it is a small loss. Maybe a split day, or one unit south of even for the day. If that is the case, they hope to bounce back. Sometimes they do, but in this case, it didn't happen.
- Get it back!
"Sorry about yesterday guys........I worked hard today though, and have a game I like even better than the games we won with earlier in the week." Well, of course you do!
- Salvage a bad day.
These guys will post some plays early. If they hit, the day is done. If they lose, they have another game at night based on, "late informtion". This is a common ruse to try and get the numbers in the black. If the days loss was big enough early on, this play is usually a larger play. "Guys, we really love this play, based on some late information." Late information is just an answer to a question. the question being, "If you liked this game so much, why didn't you post it earlier?"
- Runs over, fires out.
The bad day, or bad days will happen, and the guy needs to pull up stakes. (You can't stick around to show too many losses!) This is how the scene plays out:
Having been so pompous, you have natural detractors who will take this opportunity to blast the hell out of you. At this point, you start a thread that says, "I am done here."
You explain that you came here to help, but the bashers have made it unbearable for you. You decide that the suffering is just not worth it. Of course, you will have a poster or two whom will want you to stay. You tell them that you just can't, but if they send you an email, you will be happy to send them your plays.........."Game on!"
Get a half dozen guys, and it could lead to a nice pay day. All on what? Two weeks of "plays"?
It's good work if you can get it.
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So true
By the way YYZ I am glad you talked me into the over on the balty game its already hit. that takes you too a 80-1 run since june. YOU R ON FIRE!
By the way YYZ I am glad you talked me into the over on the balty game its already hit. that takes you too a 80-1 run since june. YOU R ON FIRE!
Best capping write-up I've ever seen
Best capping write-up I've ever seen
YYZ you missed your calling.
I don't know what it is but you missed it.
Best capping write-up I've ever seen
YYZ you missed your calling.
I don't know what it is but you missed it.
Good and accurate write-up, yyz.
You could also add:
Make sure to say 'good luck' or 'nice job' to as many people as you can so they'll reciprocate when you win one. (a subset of your 'keep it at the top' theorem)
You could also add:
Make sure to say 'good luck' or 'nice job' to as many people as you can so they'll reciprocate when you win one. (a subset of your 'keep it at the top' theorem)
It had me baffled about him, least when I get my nuts kicked in i say so and it is right on my page in srv record, and it happens 3-5 times a year and seems to come in 2 week spans, and what ever i try the wrong thing happens and it sucks losing others people money let alone my own, would rather lose just mind but part of the business, and all you can do is be honest step back and take time off, If i did not feel i could help those who wanted it for some reason or the other and still give out games i plated here service would go before Eric , trust me i am far from rich with it, but makes a good way to hide money, but be upfront. hell I hate to lose and it takes me a few days when i go through a bad 2 weeks, i am dealing with other peoples money not just mine so it does eat at me and my people will tell you that.
But if it comes a time where i am upside down for more then a season time to do my own thing, and just post here. But i have never not said when i got nuts kicked in and that is hard to choke down, would never go off on you, I think you are great for the site as most people and your right people do need to look out for others i can only say what i know and untill fb and hoops i am wrapped up more then most times just less games so go for you to pull the sheets, Like I said he did not respond like the person i knew so it did raise a red flag and i wrote him more then once. So i think you are right.
Six-five that bird looks good thanks i see tumble weeds out here. i can taste it being deep fried.
I will always be here and have calmed down, hard enough dealing in just my money but if you are honest like a investor or stock brocker for the most part you are not human if a cold spell does not effect you, hell it hurts my pockets so i am sure those under me are not doing any better not that i have more but do play larger so it sucks, be honest and eat crow when you go cold, and if cold means to long, lose your own money not others and post what you have, my reasons are different yes i win more then not but far from rich with it, but makes a good tax shield.
But if it comes a time where i am upside down for more then a season time to do my own thing, and just post here. But i have never not said when i got nuts kicked in and that is hard to choke down, would never go off on you, I think you are great for the site as most people and your right people do need to look out for others i can only say what i know and untill fb and hoops i am wrapped up more then most times just less games so go for you to pull the sheets, Like I said he did not respond like the person i knew so it did raise a red flag and i wrote him more then once. So i think you are right.
Six-five that bird looks good thanks i see tumble weeds out here. i can taste it being deep fried.
I will always be here and have calmed down, hard enough dealing in just my money but if you are honest like a investor or stock brocker for the most part you are not human if a cold spell does not effect you, hell it hurts my pockets so i am sure those under me are not doing any better not that i have more but do play larger so it sucks, be honest and eat crow when you go cold, and if cold means to long, lose your own money not others and post what you have, my reasons are different yes i win more then not but far from rich with it, but makes a good tax shield.
All's good Fletch
All's good Fletch
Love your take on things. :clap:
I haven't seen of wif of Eddie in these partsoke
All's good Fletch
Love your take on things. :clap:
I haven't seen of wif of Eddie in these parts
okeThanks for the reply Eirc. And yes I do respect you and I don't want u to take my response as being a diservice toward you. You have a conscious and have always been upfront with members and it goes a long way. Your help and knowledge is more than appreciated not only from the handicapping view but also the things that get less noticed. S.B. party, helping others when they go to vegas and etc. Much appreciated.
And was just ribbing you about blasting but oh can I and I am sure most memebers remember some good Fletcher flaming threads lol.
Have a good one!
And was just ribbing you about blasting but oh can I and I am sure most memebers remember some good Fletcher flaming threads lol.
Have a good one!
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That was Ray, and i always wish people good luck and mean it! and I know you know I do or hope by now you do. Hell if your a bagel I have lost a good amount of weight but still have the head of a puffer
