What would liberals do?

[spibble spab]

AFTER the attacks of 9/11, if you were in office.
what would you do?

Here are the rules if you choose to play

Dont discuss current administration

NO third grade cutdowns

Only discuss your plan for Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden.

Be civil or dont post.

 

[kosar]

AFTER the attacks of 9/11, if you were in office.
what would you do?

Well, that's obvious:

Go after those two countries responsible for 9/11.

1. Root out Al-Qaeda in Afganistan with massive force.

2. Remove most of that force in Afghanistan after a little while, without having found Osama, and invade Singapore. Try an teach them how Americans do things.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Gee that's funny, I thought we are currently in Afghanistan rooting out the leftovers of the Taliban??? I guess we cut and ran.

In other words, with Kosar's plan Saddam Hussein would still be in power. His rape rooms and torture chambers would still be open for business. Good plan. I guess Kosar forgot that the war on terror is a global issue. Just depends on how steadfast you are on avoiding future attacks on U.S. soil.

 

[Chadman]

Pretty much echoing Kosar's post, although I'll defer to him with the Singapore-Sling.

I agree with the administration and how they took action in Afghanistan. (See guys? I am not all one-sided all the time...you should try it sometime.) I would have stayed the course there, and done everything I could have done to complete the mission and get the person and people responsible for the attacks on our country.

I won't muddy up the thread with anything derogatory or negative politically further.

The only thing I will add, is that I think it would have been appropriate to examine the Saudi role in all of it, but again, to avoid being political here, I have to stop.

 

[Master Capper]

More than likely they would of pursued the ideas of past great war time leaders like FDR, Wilson, and Truman that actually knew how to wage a battle unlike these cluster#****ers we have now!

 

[kosar]

Gee that's funny, I thought we are currently in Afghanistan rooting out the leftovers of the Taliban??? I guess we cut and ran.

Yeah, we still have some troops there. Around 11,000 I think. Where in my post suggested otherwise?

Rooting out the Taliban and continuing to let the opium growers run the country. Hey, it's their number one industry! Too bad most of it ends up here.

 

[spibble spab]

do you know haow many of the highjackers were from Saudi Arabia? See this is the kind of sh&t im talking about.
Ignorance and a keyboard...

Noone of brighter conscience knows what to do. Invade Singapore? Not to mention that you did not get the UN's opinion. LOL you just want to show them how America does things (you sound like rumsfeld) what a chickenhawk you are.

No mention of a coalition???? piss on this hypocrite.

see how easy it is to get carried away with attacks on anyones ideas of how to deal with a terrorist threat?

I suppose you would also us US intelligence?
well Bush did and you threw a sh1tfit.

Wouldnt using massive force to "root out" al qaeda bring our troops in harms way

and still you said you'd get osama as per your post I say:

KOSAR LIED, THOUSANDS DIED!!!!!

I could go on and on. at the Kosar administration's expense.

 

[Clem D]

AFTER the attacks of 9/11, if you were in office.
what would you do?

Here are the rules if you choose to play

Dont discuss current administration

NO third grade cutdowns

Only discuss your plan for Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden.

Be civil or dont post.

Notice you didn't say Iraq?

See you do get it. Iraq had no place in our war to get those bastards who attacked us.
Enough said you are brilliant!!

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Why would Kosar want to invade Singapore without trying to build a coalition??? What a hypocrite.

 

[spibble spab]

I did not mention anything about Iraq. that is correct.
that would be stating my opinion on what to do.
read before you post,

 

[kosar]

I agree with the administration and how they took action in Afghanistan. (See guys? I am not all one-sided all the time...you should try it sometime.)

That's just it. Nobody here has ever once said anything negative about going to Afghanistan. Never. Not once. In fact, other than a very few lunatic fringe lefties, I have not seen anybody, anwhere in this country that was against that.

The differences come with Iraq, of course. Some of us were able to distinguish between Iraq and 9/11. Some of us thought the immediate priority in post 9/11/01 should be to crush Al-Qaeda with everything we have. Others thought it was more important to play cat and mouse with Saddams followers in the streets of Baghdad. I guess it's just a matter of perspective and it depends how much of a priority one thinks should be placed on the security of our country.

 

[spibble spab]

Kosar did not seek UN approval and loses 17 percentage points.

your fired

 

[Chadman]

see how easy it is to get carried away with attacks on anyones ideas of how to deal with a terrorist threat?

I suppose you would also us US intelligence?
well Bush did and you threw a sh1tfit.

Wouldnt using massive force to "root out" al qaeda bring our troops in harms way

See, here's the thing. This is why we are objective. We understand the reasons why acting in a forceful way in Afghanistan was warranted, and supported it. Rooted for it. Actually getting the person responsible for attacking us. NOT SADDAM. God, why is that so hard to understand?!?

We are not pinko-pussies against war in any case. There are situations that call for it. There are others that may or may not. All situations are not the same.

Yeah, Bush used "intelligence." He just didn't use or share all of it to make his decision. He left out and hid the parts that didn't forward his decision to diminish our sensible and understandable efforts in Afghanistan to go elsewhere. We understand how serious it is for our troops to go into harms way. It needs real justification and support. Not underhandedness and manipulation for a questionable (at best) plan.

Sorry. I did not take this to the political place. I avoided it. But, I knew certain people would.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Let's see what a liberal would do...........

BILL CLINTON:

"The hard fact is that so long as Saddam remains in power, he threatens the well-being of his people, the peace of his region, the security of the world.

The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government"


END OF ARGUMENT :nutkick

 

[Chadman]

So, you end the argument by saying a liberal would react to 9-11 and Afghanistan by pulling out 90% of the power sent there and transferring it to Iraq to take out Saddam?

I would say you may have ended the argument, but you lost it. In more ways than one.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

No, I end the argument with the words of Bill Clinton:


"The hard fact is that so long as Saddam remains in power, he threatens the well-being of his people, the peace of his region, the security of the world.

The best way to end that threat once and for all is with a new Iraqi government"

IGNORE IT ALL YOU WANT!!! :clap:

 

[Clem D]

but charles that was not the best way to get the man who masterminded the attack on America. 9/11/01


I will never forget. Your president already has

 

[Chadman]

Of course you end it with that. A comment that has nothing to do with 9-11, Afghanistan, or what we were asked to address here.

Nice job. Now, post it again and roll around on the floor laughing. At least I see you found your arms.

 

[djv]

Yup what has Clinton and Iraq have to do with BIN in Afgan. At least we think he's there. I think he's in Iran.
Saudi keeps getting slack. It's oil kids.
Iran a bigger problem and always has been and nothing has bend done. They tell Bush to go jump. So he then says let Russia and Europe handle Iran. Should have said same for Iraq who had nothing to do with 9/11.
Afgan was handle as it should have been at once. We should have never gave up looking for BIN. You don't here Bush even call that a priority any more. Once we were done there we should have did a strong investigation in to Saudi. No more free passes. Once done with the important business we could have took a look at Iraq if even needed to do so.

 

[spibble spab]

DJV in your post you say "we should have never gave up looking for BIN" LOL who said we gave up.

Do you realize the difficulty of Finding someone like Bin Laden. Cuz ya know those mideast border checkpoints are rock-solid

If you had a sh1tload of money and fundamentalist follows that would DIE for you, plus thousands of miles of hiding places. how hard would it be to be found. Put your arms down though.