When you win roughly 800K.....and Caesars won't pay you

[kickserv]

Eventually after paying a ton of money in legal fees, he'll get his money.

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Great publicity for Caesars, fucking idiots, just pay him then ban him like you do to other winners, but no instead they get a ton of bad press and "ban him" after the fact. Meanwhile some whale is betting 800 grand an hour at baccarat in one of your casinos and you say nothing, this dude wins 800 grand and you won't pay him, nice job Caesars 👎

And I love how they tried to play the "money laundering card", fuck right off with that shit.


Hopefully when he finally gets his money the court will have Caesars pay his legal fees.



Oh and the "expert" that said "he crossed State Lines" is either a fucking idiot or is paid by Caesars. What does it matter as to where the person lives, if you walk into a Sportsbook/Casino to place a bet you don't have to be a resident of that State for fucks sake. So yeah everybody that places a bet on the Superbowl in Nevada is only from Nevada, yeah nobody travels there on vacation, nope nobody, what a fucking clown

 

[kickserv]

Slumdog better watch out​

 

[MadJack]

Wow. Total bullshit!

 

[yyz]

Are they giving him back his money on the losing bets?

 

[kickserv]

Wow. Total bullshit!

Gee ya think.


And I think that is like the 9876th time I have read about a Sportsbook in USA not paying somebody. And 95 percent of the time it is so friggen obvious that the Sportsbook is tottaly fucking over the customer.

Caesars and MGM seem to be the ones always fucking over winners.



And what makes it even worse, almost every time they end up paying the players (years later) anyway. Do they not understand what bad publicity is? For fucks sake just pay em and keep it all quiet. Why is that so hard to figure out, fucking hell🤦‍♀️




Now yes there are some instances where it is obvious the player is the one trying to "pull a fast one" on the Sportsbook, but almost every single time it is the Sportsbook fucking someone over. I mean how many stories are there now with MGM and Caesars looking like corrupt scumbags, just pay the people the money for fucks sake🤦‍♂️

 

[kickserv]

Are they giving him back his money on the losing bets?

Nahhhhh....he was clearly laundering money right🤦‍♂️

Send him to prison 🤦‍♀️

 

[MadJack]

He probably shouldn't have said that he disguises himself in order to get his bets down.

 

[yyz]

He probably shouldn't have said that he disguises himself in order to get his bets down.

Correct. Plus, don't try to cash out a ton of tickets at once.

 

[kickserv]

Correct. Plus, don't try to cash out a ton of tickets at once.

Who cares if he had 99 thousand separate tickets, he did nothing wrong.


Just like the other 4 guys (that I read about, I am sure there are a ton more) that Caesars fucked over, he'll get his money eventually.

 

[MadJack]

Correct. Plus, don't try to cash out a ton of tickets at once.

Why not? Unless he's trying to hide something.

I'm thinking they wouldn't have taken his bets had he made them all at one time without a disguise. Why is that? Was he knowingly breaking rules by placing the bets that they would not have accepted?

And, hey, I'm on the players side here but he must have broken a rule that he was aware of.

I don't think they will have to pay the man his money, kick.

 

[kickserv]

He probably shouldn't have said that he disguises himself in order to get his bets down.

It was dumb for him to do that, when he was at that kiosk he was not banned from wagering at Caesars. Plus, it wasn't like they had no idea 35 grand was being bet on parlays within a 2 hour window, they thought he'd lose, and when he won, they made up some bullshit.



You only wear a disguise if you are banned, and he wasn't, so not sure why the hell he did that, but it doesn't matter anyway.




He is a smart sports gambler, and he won fair and square.

 

[kickserv]

I don't think they will have to pay the man his money, kick.

Same thing happened to a guy at Caesars in Windsor (in Windsor Ontario), almost exactly the same situation (kiosk was involved). The guy won something like 290 grand Canadian on various parlays (he put around 15 grand into the kiosk within an hour at like 4am in the morning). It took roughly a year, and it went to court but he got paid. And he got an extra 75 grand (awarded by the court) and Caesars Windsor got fined a large amount (I can't remember the number but it was big). It was all over the news and on Sports Talk radio for a couple days.

I am not saying the situation was exactly the same as this dude from Chicago, but it is close.

Caesars Sportsbook - Caesars Windsor

Caesars Sportsbook at Caesars Windsor. Come for the sports, and stay for a betting experience like never before.

www.caesars.com

I guarantee you he'll get all his money (and most likely additional funds), it will just take a long time. He's a smart dude, he wasn't banned and he knows he wasn't banned. He's not going to go on the news and lie his ass off, especially when he is talking legal action, he'll take em to court and he'll win.

 

[kickserv]

I don't think they will have to pay the man his money, kick.

I'll come back to this thread in a year....he'll get his money.

 

[MadJack]

He knew they would not accept the bets from HIM, that's why he went to different places to place the bets. Some places under disguise. He broke the rule.

If I tell you that I will take a bet from you for $1000 max then when the game is over and you bring me $800K worth of tickets to cash, I'm not going to pay you. Simple as that. I gave you a $1000 limit and you deceived me by making bets that I didn't know you were placing.

 

[MadJack]

He's a smart dude he wasn't banned and he knows he wasn't banned.

He wasn't banned but he knew they wouldn't have accepted his bets had they known that he was placing those bets.

 

[kickserv]

He knew they would not accept the bets from HIM, that's why he went to different places to place the bets. Some places under disguise. He broke the rule.

- If he is telling the truth (which I believe he is), he was not banned from wagering on Sports at any Caesars property.

- If he is telling the truth (which I believe he is) he did not go over the limit that the kiosk allowed (which is monitored by Caesar staff, they knew exactly what was being wagered) they were all NCAA/NCAAF parlays and as you know 30 grand is nothing.



Now if he was banned and is lying then yes of course he won't get anything, but there is no way he would go public if he knew he was banned.


He didn't break any rules.

 

[MadJack]

I hope he gets paid and I hope you are right but the way he placed the bets (?), he knew he was wrong.

 

[kickserv]

He wasn't banned but he knew they wouldn't have accepted his bets had they known that he was placing those bets.

It is very simple, if Caesars has it in writing (and filed with authorities, Regulatory Commission, State, Province, etc, etc) that he is not allowed to wager on Sports then Caesars is in the right and he gets nothing.

If not, then he'll be paid and Caesars will pay a fine for fucking over this dude.


It is really simple, is he allowed to bet on Sports at a Caesars property anywhere in the world or isn't he? If he's telling the truth, he did nothing wrong.

 

[yyz]

Why not? Unless he's trying to hide something.

I'm thinking they wouldn't have taken his bets had he made them all at one time without a disguise. Why is that? Was he knowingly breaking rules by placing the bets that they would not have accepted?

And, hey, I'm on the players side here but he must have broken a rule that he was aware of.

I don't think they will have to pay the man his money, kick.

I'm saying that if you're trying to "fly under the radar", you don't cash in hundreds of thousands in tickets.

 

[kickserv]

I hope he gets paid and I hope you are right but the way he placed the bets (?), he knew he was wrong.

Because of that stupid bullshit tax shit in the USA that is why he made them all small wagers, I would have done the exact same thing. Now yes maybe it is another reason, but I think that is why he did it, for that stupid tax shit.

Now yes you may be correct, perhaps he is lying and he is just looking for a payday knowing he was in the wrong, but I believe what he said, I don't know why he'd go on the news and just lie.