- Oct 26, 2012
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US player looking for new book. Looking for fast payout. I don't want to wait a month for a check. Any suggestions and turn around times?
yup, betagame.ag
agree.
Can someone confirm for me that at a 10x roll over for BETAGAME it is calculated from every bet you make?
For example- $100 deposit +$100 bonus X 10 rollover = $2000 in bets must be made.
This is bets made regardless of Wins/Loses correct?
That is correct.
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very helpful, thank you! been looking for new book with a good bonus.
Hey Angry Bird, I like bonuses also but be careful. Most bonuses are given in free play money. So if they give you $200 in free play money and you make 2 plays for 100 each you can only win $180, but your rollover will be on the full $200. Also when calculating the rollover even if you make a play and buy points and the juice is -125, the amount counted towards your rollover is only what you can win. So, if you risk $125 to win $100, only $100 is counted towards your rollover. Finally, it is very hard for most players to make even $2,000 in plays and still have cash in their account and that is only on a $100 deposit. The books are not stupid, they give you the free plays because in the vast majority of cases, lets say you deposit $500, which I assume is not a large amount for most of the people on this forum. If you take the full bonus, your rollover is $5,000. That means even if you have a great weekend and make 4 plays at $200 each and go 4-0, you cannot withdraw your $800 winnings and you still have $4200 to go before you reach your rollover and can make a withdrawl. As I said before most people, myself included will lose that money back by the time they get to $5,000 in plays. I used to look for the biggest bonus I could get. However, what I found myself doing was doing well on my plays but losing my winnings back on plays I forced to try and reach my rollover. So, just to pass on what I have learned, my advice would be if you are going to take a bonus, look for a book that will give you the lowest rollover, not the best bonus. In most cases if the rollover is too large it is actually better to take no bonus and than you can make a withdrawl and not have to worry about forcing plays to reach a rollover. A few seasons ago I made a large deposit and got a great bonus. It was matched twice, in cash and in free plays. However because of that my rollover was over $50,000! Unless you are someone who is going to play at least $1000 a game, it is almost impossible to make $50,000 in plays at $100 or $150 a game and still have a bankroll by the time you get to $50,000! So, in my opinion bonuses are like parlays, they are like sucker bets. They draw you in with the bonus but very few players reach the rollover and get to make a withdrawl. So, if you are going to take a bonus my advice would be this. If your bankroll for the season is $2,000 take the bonus only on $200 or $300. That way you have a realistic chance to reach the rollover and actually win some cash! Just my opinion, others may disagree!
Hey Angry Bird, I like bonuses also but be careful. Most bonuses are given in free play money. So if they give you $200 in free play money and you make 2 plays for 100 each you can only win $180, but your rollover will be on the full $200. Also when calculating the rollover even if you make a play and buy points and the juice is -125, the amount counted towards your rollover is only what you can win. So, if you risk $125 to win $100, only $100 is counted towards your rollover. Finally, it is very hard for most players to make even $2,000 in plays and still have cash in their account and that is only on a $100 deposit. The books are not stupid, they give you the free plays because in the vast majority of cases, lets say you deposit $500, which I assume is not a large amount for most of the people on this forum. If you take the full bonus, your rollover is $5,000. That means even if you have a great weekend and make 4 plays at $200 each and go 4-0, you cannot withdraw your $800 winnings and you still have $4200 to go before you reach your rollover and can make a withdrawl. As I said before most people, myself included will lose that money back by the time they get to $5,000 in plays. I used to look for the biggest bonus I could get. However, what I found myself doing was doing well on my plays but losing my winnings back on plays I forced to try and reach my rollover. So, just to pass on what I have learned, my advice would be if you are going to take a bonus, look for a book that will give you the lowest rollover, not the best bonus. In most cases if the rollover is too large it is actually better to take no bonus and than you can make a withdrawl and not have to worry about forcing plays to reach a rollover. A few seasons ago I made a large deposit and got a great bonus. It was matched twice, in cash and in free plays. However because of that my rollover was over $50,000! Unless you are someone who is going to play at least $1000 a game, it is almost impossible to make $50,000 in plays at $100 or $150 a game and still have a bankroll by the time you get to $50,000! So, in my opinion bonuses are like parlays, they are like sucker bets. They draw you in with the bonus but very few players reach the rollover and get to make a withdrawl. So, if you are going to take a bonus my advice would be this. If your bankroll for the season is $2,000 take the bonus only on $200 or $300. That way you have a realistic chance to reach the rollover and actually win some cash! Just my opinion, others may disagree!
betagame will send you your winnings with no fees, and pretty sure it will be within a week.
how long has betagame been around? do they have real payment history? how do you know of this brand new book?
I know the guy personally. He's been a book since early 80's, was my local in Baltimore when I lived there. I talked him into doing this since he's bored being retired. I guarantee he's gold.
Hey Angry Bird, I like bonuses also but be careful. Most bonuses are given in free play money. So if they give you $200 in free play money and you make 2 plays for 100 each you can only win $180, but your rollover will be on the full $200. Also when calculating the rollover even if you make a play and buy points and the juice is -125, the amount counted towards your rollover is only what you can win. So, if you risk $125 to win $100, only $100 is counted towards your rollover. Finally, it is very hard for most players to make even $2,000 in plays and still have cash in their account and that is only on a $100 deposit. The books are not stupid, they give you the free plays because in the vast majority of cases, lets say you deposit $500, which I assume is not a large amount for most of the people on this forum. If you take the full bonus, your rollover is $5,000. That means even if you have a great weekend and make 4 plays at $200 each and go 4-0, you cannot withdraw your $800 winnings and you still have $4200 to go before you reach your rollover and can make a withdrawl. As I said before most people, myself included will lose that money back by the time they get to $5,000 in plays. I used to look for the biggest bonus I could get. However, what I found myself doing was doing well on my plays but losing my winnings back on plays I forced to try and reach my rollover. So, just to pass on what I have learned, my advice would be if you are going to take a bonus, look for a book that will give you the lowest rollover, not the best bonus. In most cases if the rollover is too large it is actually better to take no bonus and than you can make a withdrawl and not have to worry about forcing plays to reach a rollover. A few seasons ago I made a large deposit and got a great bonus. It was matched twice, in cash and in free plays. However because of that my rollover was over $50,000! Unless you are someone who is going to play at least $1000 a game, it is almost impossible to make $50,000 in plays at $100 or $150 a game and still have a bankroll by the time you get to $50,000! So, in my opinion bonuses are like parlays, they are like sucker bets. They draw you in with the bonus but very few players reach the rollover and get to make a withdrawl. So, if you are going to take a bonus my advice would be this. If your bankroll for the season is $2,000 take the bonus only on $200 or $300. That way you have a realistic chance to reach the rollover and actually win some cash! Just my opinion, others may disagree!
sounds like you were at 1vice and got the griff the stiff treatment
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