Who removes Trump when he loses the election?

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Trump will lose the election, but he won't leave office, no way in hell he vacates the White House.

So, under USA law what gov't branch removes him? In other words when he starts sprouting his lunatic dictator shit like "the election was rigged" and such, and he refuses to leave the White House, who removes him?

Trump has got away with more shit then any dictator in history, he commits treason daily and can do whatever the fuck he wants. There is nothing he can't do, so do you really think he is going to admit defeat and leave? He'll just say no and nobody will stop him.

So if you think Trump is going to leave with the "Congrads Mr. Biden on your win, I lost fair and square and best of luck with the new job" quote, well your nuts:lol:


So serious question.......

Who removes Trump? The Secret Service? The DC Police? The Military?


Because........he ain't leaving, that means he has to say he lost and those with narcissistic personality disorder are unable to do that.
 

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If Donald Trump is defeated in November 2020, his presidency will end on January 20, 2021. If he is reelected, then, barring other circumstances such as removal from office, his administration will terminate on the same day in 2025. In either of these scenarios, Trump would cease to be president immediately upon the expiration of his term. But what if he won?t leave the White House?

The American Constitution spells out how the transfer of power is supposed to work. Article II provides that the president ?shall hold his office for the term of four years.? The Twentieth Amendment says that the president?s and vice president?s terms ?shall end at noon on the 20th day of January ? and the terms of their successors shall then begin.? Of course, a president may be reelected to a second four-year term, but under the Twenty-Second Amendment, ?no person shall be elected to the office of president more than twice.?

For nearly 250 years, presidents have respected the law. Even when electoral defeat has been unexpected and ignominious, presidents have passed the baton without acrimony. In a sense, perhaps this is the central achievement of the American system: to have transferred power peacefully from one leader to the next, without heredity to guide the way.

That a president would defy the results of an election has long been unthinkable; it is now, if not an actual possibility, at the very least something Trump?s supporters joke about. As the former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee tweeted, President Trump ?will be eligible for a 3rd term due to the illegal attempts by Comey, Dems, and media , et al attempting to oust him as @POTUS so that?s why I was named to head up the 2024 re-election.? A good troll though it may have been, Huckabee is not the first person to suggest that Trump might not leave when his presidency ends.

In May, the faith leader Jerry Falwell Jr. tweeted an apparent reference to the completed investigation of Special Counsel Robert Mueller into Russian election interference. ?I now support reparations,? he wrote. ?Trump should have 2 yrs added to his 1st term as pay back for time stolen by this corrupt failed coup.? Trump retweeted Falwell?s post.

One of Trump?s former confidants, Michael Cohen, has suggested that Trump won?t leave. In his congressional testimony before heading to prison, Trump?s former attorney said, ?Given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that if he loses the election in 2020, there will never be a peaceful transition of power.?

Trump himself has joked about staying in office beyond his term, and even for life. In December, Trump told a crowd at a Pennsylvania rally that he will leave office in ?five years, nine years, 13 years, 17 years, 21 years, 25 years, 29 years ?? He added that he was joking to drive the media ?totally crazy.? Just a few days earlier, Trump had alluded to his critics in a speech, ?A lot of them say, ?You know he?s not leaving? ? So now we have to start thinking about that because it?s not a bad idea.? This is how propaganda works. Say something outrageous often enough and soon it no longer sounds shocking.

Refusal to leave office is rare, but not unheard of. In the past decade, presidents in democracies such as Moldova, Sri Lanka, the Democratic Republic of Congo, and Gambia have refused to leave office, sometimes leading to bloodshed. In 2016, Joseph Kabila decided not to step down after three five-year terms as the president of Congo, announcing that he would delay the election for two years so that a census could be conducted. His decision was met with mass protests in which 50 people were killed by government security forces. Still, he followed through and an election took place in 2018. He left office thereafter.

Elected officials in the U.S. have also refused to step down, albeit from lower offices than the presidency. In 1874, a Texas governor locked himself in the basement of the state capitol building after losing his reelection bid. The saga began when Republican Governor Edmund J. Davis lost the 1873 election by a resounding 2-to-1 ratio to his Democratic challenger, Richard Coke, and claimed that the election had been tainted with fraud and intimidation. A court case made its way to the state?s supreme court. All three justices, each of whom had been appointed by the incumbent Davis, ruled that the election was unconstitutional and invalid. Democrats called upon the public to disregard the court?s decision, and proceeded with plans for Coke?s inauguration. On January 15, 1874, Coke arrived at the state capitol with a sheriff?s posse, and was sworn in to office while Davis barricaded himself downstairs with state troopers. The next day, Davis requested federal troops from President Ulysses S. Grant. Grant refused, and Davis finally stepped down three days later.

In 1946, Georgia endured the ?Three Governors Crisis,? when the governor-elect died before taking office. Three men?the outgoing governor, the son of the governor-elect and the lieutenant governor-elect?each claimed a right to the office. The state assembly voted for the governor-elect?s son to take charge, but the outgoing governor refused to leave, so both men physically occupied the governor?s office. The outgoing governor yielded when the governor-elect?s son had the locks changed. The state supreme court finally decided in favor of the lieutenant governor-elect three months later.

The closest thing to a refusal to leave office that the U.S. presidency has experienced was Franklin D. Roosevelt?s break with tradition by seeking a third term. Roosevelt rejected the norm set by George Washington, and followed by successive presidents, to step down after two terms. FDR was elected to a third and even a fourth term, but concern about a permanent executive led to the ratification of the Twenty-Second Amendment in 1951, limiting presidents to two terms.

If Trump were inclined to overstay his term, the levers of power work in favor of removal. Because the president immediately and automatically loses his constitutional authority upon expiration of his term or after removal through impeachment, he would lack the power to direct the U.S. Secret Service or other federal agents to protect him. He would likewise lose his power, as the commander in chief of the armed forces, to order a military response to defend him. In fact, the newly minted president would possess those presidential powers. If necessary, the successor could direct federal agents to forcibly remove Trump from the White House. Now a private citizen, Trump would no longer be immune from criminal prosecution, and could be arrested and charged with trespassing in the White House. While even former presidents enjoy Secret Service protection, agents presumably would not follow an illegal order to protect one from removal from office.

Although Trump?s remaining in office seems unlikely, a more frightening?and plausible?scenario would be if his defeat inspired extremist supporters to engage in violence. One could imagine a world in which Trump is defeated in the 2020 election, and he immediately begins tweeting that the election was rigged. Or consider the possibility, albeit remote, that a second-term Trump is removed from office through impeachment, and rails about his ouster as a coup. His message would be amplified by right-wing media. If his grievances hit home with even a few people inclined toward violence, deadly acts of violence, or even terrorist attacks against the new administration, could result.

Ultimately, the key to the peaceful transfer of power is the conduct of the outgoing leader himself. America has thus far been lucky in that regard. After voluntarily relinquishing the presidency after his second term, Washington took measures to demonstrate the peaceful transfer of power. He attended the inauguration of his successor, John Adams, and insisted on walking behind Adams after the ceremony to display his subservience to the new president. Through this example, the citizenry was able to accept that the power of the presidency now resided in its new occupant.

More recently, upon leaving office after a heated campaign, George H. W. Bush left behind a letter to welcome Bill Clinton into the White House on January 20, 1993. It concluded, ?You will be our president when you read this note. I wish you well. I wish your family well. Your success now is our country?s success. I am rooting hard for you. Good luck.? Imagining such a gracious note from the current occupant of the White House to his successor is difficult.

But if Trump should fail in his final duty as president to transfer power peacefully, the nation?s laws, norms, and institutions will be responsible for carrying out the will of the electorate. Should those fail too, then the American experiment?s greatest achievement will come to a grinding halt, and with it the hope that a republic can ever be kept.

This story is part of the project ?The Battle for the Constitution,? in partnership with the National Constitution Center.


We want to hear what you think about this article. Submit a letter to the editor or write to letters@theatlantic.com.

BARBARA MCQUADE is a professor at the University of Michigan Law School. She was the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan and co-chair of the Attorney General?s Subcommittee on Terrorism and National Security in the Obama administration.
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Trump will lose the election, but he won't leave office, no way in hell he vacates the White House.

So, under USA law what gov't branch removes him? In other words when he starts sprouting his lunatic dictator shit like "the election was rigged" and such, and he refuses to leave the White House, who removes him?

Trump has got away with more shit then any dictator in history, he commits treason daily and can do whatever the fuck he wants. There is nothing he can't do, so do you really think he is going to admit defeat and leave? He'll just say no and nobody will stop him.

So if you think Trump is going to leave with the "Congrads Mr. Biden on your win, I lost fair and square and best of luck with the new job" quote, well your nuts:lol:


So serious question.......

Who removes Trump? The Secret Service? The DC Police? The Military?


Because........he ain't leaving, that means he has to say he lost and those with narcissistic personality disorder are unable to do that.

The Chief Justice will swear in the new President. At that point the Secret Service, United States Marshals, US Military, FBI and all other Federal law enforcement are commanded by the new President.

Biden can simply say: "Get that asshole outa' here. Throw him on the street." And they will - many happily.
 

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Thanks Duff Miver and Old School, so it isn't a specific department, guess it just falls under "Federal Agents". I thought it might be exclusively the military, I suppose that is not the case.






Trump will not leave the White House, he'll have to be carried out in handcuffs, at the very least.
 

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Send him here. He'd fit in just fine.


Anybody in Canadian gov't would have lots and lots of lots and lots and lots of work to do to get anywhere close to the level of corruption and stupidity that the Trump Administration has achieved.:142smilie

It is like comparing the WNBA to the NBA, same sport, but completely different.



Oh and nobody in Canadian gov't takes orders from Putin, unlike President Treason.
 

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Biden can simply say: "Get that asshole outa' here. Throw him on the street." And they will - many happily.


They should have a raffle as to who gets to remove him from the White House, it would raise like a billion dollars, think of all the entries that raffle would get?:142smilie
 

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Send him here. He'd fit in just fine.
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King Trudeau has apologized, once again.:facepalm: I am sorry I wore Black face , I am sorry my family was paid off , I am sorry for taking adrenachrome , I am sorry for fraternizing with known pedophiles .

How about apologizing for supporting Sharia Law, for giving a Cold Blooded Muslim Murders 10.5 Million of Canadians Tax money, or about for increasing Your Useless Carbon Extortion Tax, or for giving the UNRWA A Know Islamic Muslim Hamas Terrorist organization 75 Million of Canadians money. Giving 16 Tonnes of Canadians Emergency Virus Protective Medical supplies to the The Lying Corrupt Communist Dictatorial China Regime. Leaving Canadians and Health Care Providers to this day Scrambling for Quality PPE. How about Apologizing for Lying to every Canadian saying Masks are Useless, and Would Do More Harm than Good.
 

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Tuesday, November 3, 2020 = Election

Wednesday, January 20, 2021 = Biden sworn in as next president of USA




Trump will have plenty of time to "dig in" and plan accordingly for his "I'm not leaving" mantra. Just think of the shit he'll do in that time frame? Holy hell:scared
 

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Our PM has become a habitual fraud and outright liar. His weak and pathetic apologies have become tiresome and yet with his "I'm sorry" he gets an automatic pass from his taxpayer funded MSM who still continue to kiss his ass. Defund the CBC and lets get rid of this major embarrassment to Canada.
 

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Wednesday, January 20, 2021 could be a day in USA History many will never forget:eek:
 

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Lock Trudeau up, Moroneau too. They are both guilty of conflict of interest, in contravention of Canadian law. An apology doesn't cut it.
 

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Trudeau shed some crocodile tears when he made another apology for his ineptness? He will go down in the history books as the worst PM Canada has ever encountered.
 

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Any Sportsbooks out there have odds on "Trumps leaves office willingly" Yes/No?
 

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Like any other criminal he's only sorry he was caught. Three ethics investigations/violations. All three involved individuals and organizations that are close to Trudeau and his family and large sums of money were involved.
 
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